HOPKINS over PASCAL?

phillybadboy · 05-19-11, 05:48 PM

hopkins

Grits n' Gravy · 05-19-11, 09:11 PM

Would be shocked if hop won by ko.

phillybadboy · 05-19-11, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

Would be shocked if hop won by ko.

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AribaAriba · 05-19-11, 10:55 PM

guys i have an inside info on the judges, all of them wouldtn come from USA or Canada. One judge would come from Philippines and the other two would be European or South American. I guarantee you that the scoring would be fair and unbiased. B-hop would school pascal again and B-hop wouldnt be careless on the first few rounds of the fight just to be knock downed. Pascal would fade off as fight goes to distance again so Im locking B-HOP for a Unanimous Dec. at +200(SIA)

Brian891 · 05-19-11, 11:08 PM

any thoughts on the dawson fight? i like dawson but -500 is pretty steep.

Ian · 05-20-11, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by Brian891

any thoughts on the dawson fight? i like dawson but -500 is pretty steep.

I'm staying away, but if I were forced to bet it I would put money on Diaconu. Dawson has big physical and athletic advantages, but he also has nights where he doesn't really show up. If Dawson comes out using all his tools, imo this will end as a punishing TKO win for him, but if he comes out tentative like he did against Pascal or in the 2nd Tarver fight he could very well get upset for the 2nd time in a row. I don't mind laying big juice on fights, but not on inconsistent guys like Dawson.

Varker · 05-20-11, 12:19 AM

I really like Hopkins by decision.

tabarnak · 05-20-11, 02:25 AM

Marty McFly told me it's Jean Pascal by decision, no joke.

Czu81 · 05-20-11, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by Varker

I really like Hopkins by decision.

He is the better fighter no question but I'm worried a little about his age..

sirchadwick1 · 05-20-11, 06:07 AM

Hopkins and Dawson both by DEC.

Vaughany · 05-20-11, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Ian

I'm staying away, but if I were forced to bet it I would put money on Diaconu. Dawson has big physical and athletic advantages, but he also has nights where he doesn't really show up. If Dawson comes out using all his tools, imo this will end as a punishing TKO win for him, but if he comes out tentative like he did against Pascal or in the 2nd Tarver fight he could very well get upset for the 2nd time in a row. I don't mind laying big juice on fights, but not on inconsistent guys like Dawson.

Dawson has changed his camp and attitude completely since the Pascal loss. He will be focused and motivated and take this comfortably, just have to decide on whether it's by TKO or decision, most likely to be decision as he's talked about using his range and staying on the outside more rather than sitting in the pocket. He only lost to Pascal because of a headbutt tht rocked him.

Wiggums5 · 05-20-11, 12:28 PM

Hopkins by decision. Guy should have won last fight...hopefully it's fair this time, but I would've liked the fight to be somewhere neutral this time.

kball15 · 05-20-11, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by Brian891

any thoughts on the dawson fight? i like dawson but -500 is pretty steep.

I would avoid it. Dawson will probably win, but Diacanu has his nights for sure. Not worth -500 IMO.

Originally posted by phillybadboy

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Hopkins by KO is a long shot to say the least lol, but it would be mind-blowingly awesome if he could pull it off

Originally posted by Vaughany

Dawson has changed his camp and attitude completely since the Pascal loss. He will be focused and motivated and take this comfortably, just have to decide on whether it's by TKO or decision, most likely to be decision as he's talked about using his range and staying on the outside more rather than sitting in the pocket. He only lost to Pascal because of a headbutt tht rocked him.

couldnt agree more. I thought those last few rounds of the Dawson-Pascal fight were a real game changer for Dawson. He was coming on really strong and wanted to finish the fight. He was really going for that KO.

I would probably pick Dawson in a Pascal rematch, but we'll see how he does tonight

Ian · 05-20-11, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Dawson has changed his... attitude completely since the Pascal loss. He will be focused and motivated and take this comfortably

Inconsistent boxers always say they have changed their attitudes after poor performances. Sometimes they do, like Victor Ortiz, sometimes they don't, like latter day Mike Tyson. I find it hard to believe that after having lackluster wins against outclassed competition Dawson wasn't able to change his attitude before, but now all of a sudden he's going to come out like a monster every single bout.

It's certainly possible that the Dawson who battered Tarver in their first fight shows up in Montreal, but I think your post would be a lot more accurate if you wrote that Dawson should win the fight comfortably instead of using the word will. Dawson should win this fight comfortably, just as he should have won the first Johnson fight, the second Tarver fight, and the Pascal fight comfortably. There were spots where he stunk in all 3 of those fights, and if he does that again in Diaconu's adopted home city, he might get "shocked" again.

AribaAriba · 05-20-11, 11:25 PM

guys check out this confrontation between the two, i dont think they really like one another LOL http://www.hbo.com/boxing/index.html...lRaSoAUBcXOA==

phillybadboy · 05-21-11, 12:17 AM

this is a old one

nyed1010 · 05-21-11, 01:22 AM

hopkins still won the first bout(home cooking judging was the only reason it was a draw) despite getting knocked down early, see no reason this won't be any different.

ROYAJA8 · 05-21-11, 04:26 AM

Pascal dominates the fight. retires the old man for good. whats everyones thoughts on Roy Jones being a huge underdog. Is he going to comeback like his old great self or the fighter who just gets knocked out easily. im hoping he turns to his old self again because i hate seeing him get knocked out like that.

omalley21 · 05-21-11, 11:46 AM

Pascal by unanimous decision +215

AribaAriba · 05-21-11, 12:05 PM

im a lil worried that B-hop admitted that he got hurt by pascal's punch on the second Knockdown on their last fight. Means Pascal got the power to KO the old B-hop. I can only see two outcome on the fight, either B-hop by decision or Pascal by K0 because as the fight goes longer it'll favor the older b-hop.

cheeese · 05-21-11, 12:09 PM

I'm on the Hop by Dec train.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 05-21-11, 12:41 PM

Pascal by decision

The HOFF · 05-21-11, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by ROYAJA8

whats everyones thoughts on Roy Jones being a huge underdog. Is he going to comeback like his old great self or the fighter who just gets knocked out easily. im hoping he turns to his old self again because i hate seeing him get knocked out like that.

Vaughany · 05-21-11, 03:32 PM

Y'ALL MUST OF FORGOT!!!...

rocky mattioli · 05-21-11, 04:23 PM

if glen johnson couldn`t out-hustle dawson,i`m doubting that a 5`9" tall white guy with a 51% k.o. ratio beats him....but if he does,dawson`s done...period...

but,hey it`s boxing....and 5`9" has homecourt...

still don`t see it happening...

flyingillini · 05-21-11, 07:49 PM

I am betting on Pascal but I am not confident one bit.

AribaAriba · 05-21-11, 09:31 PM

b-hop tried to lose a lb for 2 hours because he didnt make the 175 limit, if Pascal improve his stamina he might get a win.

The HOFF · 05-21-11, 09:38 PM

Hopkins wearing an executioner's mask in pre-fight interview.

What a douche.

goblinburner · 05-21-11, 09:41 PM

the line changed to -165 for pascal i was leaning towards pascal but now im leaning b-hop man this is going to be a hard fight to handicap. oh well ima go with the hall of famer one more time b-hop do it for the u.s.a

TrajaD · 05-21-11, 11:14 PM

Both suck. gay fight lol

Varker · 05-21-11, 11:27 PM

Hopkins!!!

AribaAriba · 05-21-11, 11:28 PM

hopkins decision=$$$$$$

The HOFF · 05-21-11, 11:28 PM

That was worthless. Pascal is kind of a bitch.

goblinburner · 05-21-11, 11:29 PM

what a fight classic fight b-hop is a legend