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  • Pin2Win
    SBR High Roller
    • 01-10-11
    • 139

    #36
    Originally posted by sportsfanatic
    size matters because the big guys have evolved. gracie wouldn't stand a chance against the big guys now.
    I guess people forget about randy Couture, I would think that he was undersized when he fought Tim Silvia and that didn't turn out so well for the heavy weight
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    • Pin2Win
      SBR High Roller
      • 01-10-11
      • 139

      #37
      Just saying henderson shouldn't be overlooked because he's the smaller fighter
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      • RaiderNation MMA
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-05-10
        • 598

        #38
        i agree
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        • Chairib
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 03-08-10
          • 917

          #39
          Originally posted by Pin2Win
          I guess people forget about randy Couture, I would think that he was undersized when he fought Tim Silvia and that didn't turn out so well for the heavy weight
          I remember Randy quite well. Tim is a big guy, I reckon most anyone would look undersized fighting him. But he's also primarily a stand up striker and a bit of a stiff too boot, pretty much a tailor made opponent for someone like Randy. Now Randy may not be the biggest guy at HW, but a solid 235 didn't make him a shrimp either.

          Do you remember Josh Barnett and Ricco Rodriguez? It was Randy's consecutive losses to both of them that prompted his initial jump down from Heavyweight to Light Heavyweight so he could fight Chuck for the interim championship. Both of those guys were around 6'4 and 240, big guys who also knew how to use their size against Randy grappling wise. Still, I do agree that size isn't the end all be all when it comes to advantage. I do think a better example would be comparing the size difference between Cain Velazquez and Brock Lesnar.

          Also, it's not like Fedor is some huge HW. You look at him at 230 and he's got a gut. So while there would be a size difference between him and Dan, that doesn't necessarily mean it would be a massive one especially if they met at LHW.

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          • Pin2Win
            SBR High Roller
            • 01-10-11
            • 139

            #40
            very good points, I just used randy and Tim as an example cause that was the first thought that came into my mind...
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            • ttrace35
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-30-10
              • 10828

              #41
              Tim Sylvia



              This guys name should never come up in serious mma discussion.
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              • sportsfanatic
                SBR MVP
                • 03-10-07
                • 3967

                #42
                if fedor demolishes hendo like i think he will, he should seriously consider dropping to lhw permanently instead of this catchweight stuff.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #43
                  Originally posted by sportsfanatic
                  if fedor demolishes hendo like i think he will, he should seriously consider dropping to lhw permanently instead of this catchweight stuff.
                  Is this fight even happening?! Sure I heard Helwani say to Rogan the other day that Fedor wont drop to 205
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                  • Poppa Catfish
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-22-10
                    • 3352

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                    Is this fight even happening?! Sure I heard Helwani say to Rogan the other day that Fedor wont drop to 205
                    sure, it will take place on ppv. On the same ppv as the strikeforce heavyweight gran prix finals, kickboxing bout with Aoki vs the lumberjack, old belfort vs motivated bj penn, and Diaz vs somebody who can wrestle
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                    • sideloaded
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-21-10
                      • 7561

                      #45
                      fedor by RNC.
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                      • sportsfanatic
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-10-07
                        • 3967

                        #46
                        fedor by decision is my guess. the prop bet odds when they come out will be interesting.
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                        • Chairib
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 03-08-10
                          • 917

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Vaughany

                          Is this fight even happening?! Sure I heard Helwani say to Rogan the other day that Fedor wont drop to 205
                          Sounds like it's going to be a heavyweight fight.
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                          • Pabinator
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-04-09
                            • 1238

                            #48
                            That Matt Hughes pic is awsome
                            Shut your mouth when you talk to Me!
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                            • omalley21
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-08-10
                              • 908

                              #49
                              Hendo said he wants to fight him at HW. Smart move by Hendo. Doesn't want to fight an in shape Fedor.
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                              • Pin2Win
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 01-10-11
                                • 139

                                #50


                                Can't use the size difference as an example huh? WOW just lighten up buddy, I would have used the size difference of Frankie Edgar but thought people would say that's not that big of a difference...
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                                • Pin2Win
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 01-10-11
                                  • 139

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by omalley21
                                  Hendo said he wants to fight him at HW. Smart move by Hendo. Doesn't want to fight an in shape Fedor.

                                  OOOOOR he didn't want to fight a drained or weakend Fedor? I don't know I'm just kidding
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                                  • The HOFF
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-02-08
                                    • 4847

                                    #52
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                                    • sportsfanatic
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-10-07
                                      • 3967

                                      #53
                                      doesn't really make sense for the fight to happen at hw. why fight hendo, who fights at mw and lhw, if you want to fight at heavyweight? if you're gonna fight at heavyweight then might as well face werdum after he loses to overeem.
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                                      • ttrace35
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-30-10
                                        • 10828

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Pin2Win
                                        Can't use the size difference as an example huh? WOW just lighten up buddy, I would have used the size difference of Frankie Edgar but thought people would say that's not that big of a difference...
                                        I'm just meesin with u guy. More to knock tim sylvia than anything
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                                        • ttrace35
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-30-10
                                          • 10828

                                          #55
                                          This fight is weird for me. I absolutely have no lean. I don't know what Fedor is gonna do against a smaller fighter. Could go either way. Fedor might be washed up. Dangerous dan is worth a play at those odds. Gonna drop a hundo. I keep seeing Japanese ironhead rocking Fedor in Pride, almost pulling the upset. That fight was prolly -500.
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                                          • cheeese
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 02-22-11
                                            • 784

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by sportsfanatic
                                            doesn't really make sense for the fight to happen at hw. why fight hendo, who fights at mw and lhw, if you want to fight at heavyweight? if you're gonna fight at heavyweight then might as well face werdum after he loses to overeem.
                                            I think because they could pitch it as legend vs legend.
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                                            • phillybadboy
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-11-09
                                              • 9383

                                              #57
                                              hendo plus money strong play
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                                              • jin2daj
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-01-09
                                                • 816

                                                #58
                                                i think hendo can take this especially because it wont be a 5 rounder. 2 fewer rounds means less chance of being caught by submission.
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                                                • Tree Rollins
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-16-09
                                                  • 3968

                                                  #59
                                                  Fedor should try 205. What a beast he would be.
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                                                  • sportsfanatic
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-10-07
                                                    • 3967

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                                                    Fedor should try 205. What a beast he would be.
                                                    i agree. i'm thinking he doesn't want to drop weight divisions because he's thinking about retirement. how many fights does he have left on his strikeforce contract?
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                                                    • Ladle
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 03-21-11
                                                      • 835

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                                                      Fedor should try 205. What a beast he would be.
                                                      While I wouldn't be surprised if a drop to 205 happened, I don't think it's likely. There's still plenty of heavyweights out there to fight, and I think M-1 would prefer that route. In addition to that, Fedor is probably the kind of guy who would like to maintain the lamb rack and vodka diet.

                                                      Part of the reason I don't want to see it is because, if he failed at 205, the forums would be intolerable. His zealous supporters would say he was old and the weight cut drained him, and the people on the other end of the spectrum would say it was "proof" that he was a bum all along. You know, the usual civilised discourse we see from MMA fans.
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                                                      • Chairib
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 03-08-10
                                                        • 917

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by sportsfanatic

                                                        i agree. i'm thinking he doesn't want to drop weight divisions because he's thinking about retirement. how many fights does he have left on his strikeforce contract?
                                                        Because it's easier to stay at 230. He doesn't have to cut nor does he have to watch his diet. That stuff is hard work and if he can get away with having some sucker make the jump up, then so be it. I would have liked to see Fedor fight at LHW, but that's a whole lot of work he apparently doesn't want to yet...or ever.
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                                                        • FightFightFight
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 03-21-11
                                                          • 594

                                                          #63
                                                          Fedor will never give in to the ridiculousness of weightcutting. Such a stupid farce. Guys got too much integrity, for better or for worse.
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                                                          • corcoran65
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 02-20-11
                                                            • 58

                                                            #64
                                                            my bet would be for this fight to go the distance
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