UFC 128 Interview with Vaughany

[SBRtv Judie]

I know he's a little hard to understand but listen twice as he knows what he's talking about...

Get to know Vaughany



Jon Bones Jones, Raphael Assuncao, Mike Pyle



Bet UFC 128 - Urijah Faber, Nate Marquardt and Joseph Benavidez



Jim Miller vs. Kamal Shalorus & Cro Cop vs. Schaub



Nick Catone, Gleison Tibau, Edson Barboza, Luiz Cane

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[ttrace35]

Vaughany does know his shit. I just can't understand a word he is sayin. Sounds like Michael Bisping with rocks in his mouth.

[omalley21]

Good stuff. Keep em coming. Im tailing. Is that an Irish accent judie?

[JuicedUp]

Great vids. Vaughany is very sharp.

[Cap dat 4ss]

Vaughany is sharp. Possible sub-titles next time?

[Vaughany]

Vaughany does know his shit. I just can't understand a word he is sayin. Sounds like Michael Bisping with rocks in his mouth.

haha I take exception to that Trace...I'm not from the North so I think I sound more like John Hathaway with rocks in his mouth!

[Poppa Catfish]

[jin2daj]

lol what???? i havent been paying attention to his picks but maybe i should if he's really doing that well.

[Poppa Catfish]

lol what???? i havent been paying attention to his picks but maybe i should if he's really doing that well.

He is quality, makes a lot of great plays especially on props (king of prop) however a lot of the arbing he does requires access to Paddy Power. So quite a few of his plays are rather hard to replicate here in the states.

[Vaughany]

lol what???? i havent been paying attention to his picks but maybe i should if he's really doing that well.

He is quality, makes a lot of great plays especially on props (king of prop) however a lot of the arbing he does requires access to Paddy Power. So quite a few of his plays are rather hard to replicate here in the states.

Yep was about to say, Poppa is correct, I have access to Pinnacle and Euro accounts in addition to Bookmaker and Sportbet and a lot of my plays are based on catching opening lines (both money line and props) and then arbing out/hedging later when more lines come out or the odds change dramatically. Also, I'm big on value plays even if I dont necessarily think that outcome will happen the majority of the time, such as playing Schaub to win by decision at +400 even though I think it's more likely he KO's/TKO's Cro-Cop. I wouldnt make that play at anything less than +350 though so it's all based on value. So it's not possible to tail a lot lot of my plays, however, I usually create a separate thread when I have a strong lean such as with Stann against Leben, Wiman against C.Miller recently. I've also started breaking down my results (to the best I can) to show how I did on single plays, how I did on props and how I did on arbs, so it is clearer how much I make from each type of play.

[sirchadwick1]

Solid interview. Good to put the voice with the name and posts! I've tailed you on a few events Vaughany, but I'm also in the US so I'm very limited and only use 5dimes and bodog (mainly for underdog picks). I have always valued your opinion though since joining. Keep up the good work!

[ttrace35]

haha I take exception to that Trace...I'm not from the North so I think I sound more like John Hathaway with rocks in his mouth!

[Mr.Kitty]

Nice interview V, good stuff. And I understood every word

[BIGDAY]

Good stuff. Keep rockin bro!

[LayingThe$Down]

Cool interview, it's always interesting to hear from someone who has been through the jungles of wagering and has lived to tell about it. Some great points made and Judie did a great job, too.

I disagree on the Pyle/Almeida assessment, however. I give the edge to Pyle in striking by a far margin, and think his wrestling is also a bit stronger.

As for Almeida's BJJ advantage, it's obvious enough he has the superior credentials and experience. However, carefully watch his fights, and you will notice something. Almeida rarely attempts subs, particularly when you consider it is his bread-and-butter. His winning strategy is take his opponents down to the ground and smother them with control.

Almeida is a careful and smart veteran, who rarely will risk the better position for a sub attempt. He prefers to take the less risky route and get the W.

However, Pyle is himself a very experienced grappler, and I think neither will have much of an edge on the ground. Add punches and wrestling, and the BJJ game will be a stand-off between these two. If it was a BJJ match, I would feel differently, of course. But within the dynamics of an MMA fight I cannot believe either fighter will impose a ground game on the other.

This is my money bet for this event. I love Pyle here. I feel he has a better chin, he is more fluid in the transitions, and his wrestling is good enough to ensure this fight will be decided by striking.

I feel confident Pyle has the ability to win this fight more often than lose it, so at +150 I am in strong.

Pelligrino is coming off a major knee injury/surgery and I think that may have a stronger negative effect on his performance than the ring rust. I like Tibau here too for a small play. Pelligrino doesn't have the BJJ to threaten Tibau on the ground, and as Vaughany mentioned Tibau will be a bit bigger (although it's important to note since Zuffa implemented a zero-tolerance policy on making weight, Tibau might not be cutting as many pounds he used to. If a fighter misses weight now, Zuffa may not even let that guy fight at all).

Sorry about the long post, perhaps you will forgive me considering this is my first post here! I am new to SBR, but not to MMA forums and certainly not to MMA wagering. I am looking forward to meeting some of you and contributing my 2 cents (which may be over-stating its value!).

Good luck this weekend, everyone!

[Poppa Catfish]

That was truly a well thought out response, Layingthe$Down. You did a great job selling me on Pyle.

My only disagreement is a minor nitpick to bring up that there are quite a few high level BJJ players who's bread and butter is their ability to control their opponent, and they often win on points and not submissions. A high level BJJ doesn't necessarily mean a high level of sub game, as there are different paths. Further more most of the greats who do sub, use rather simple submissions (BJ Penn, Roger Gracie to name a few), they are able to pull this off partly because they are so skilled at submissions, but also because they have masterful control.

best of luck to you, good sir

[Vaughany]

Nice interview V, good stuff. And I understood every word

Good stuff. Keep rockin bro!

Solid interview. Good to put the voice with the name and posts! I've tailed you on a few events Vaughany, but I'm also in the US so I'm very limited and only use 5dimes and bodog (mainly for underdog picks). I have always valued your opinion though since joining. Keep up the good work!

Cheers guys, appreciated

Cool interview, it's always interesting to hear from someone who has been through the jungles of wagering and has lived to tell about it. Some great points made and Judie did a great job, too.

I disagree on the Pyle/Almeida assessment, however. I give the edge to Pyle in striking by a far margin, and think his wrestling is also a bit stronger.

As for Almeida's BJJ advantage, it's obvious enough he has the superior credentials and experience. However, carefully watch his fights, and you will notice something. Almeida rarely attempts subs, particularly when you consider it is his bread-and-butter. His winning strategy is take his opponents down to the ground and smother them with control.

Almeida is a careful and smart veteran, who rarely will risk the better position for a sub attempt. He prefers to take the less risky route and get the W.

However, Pyle is himself a very experienced grappler, and I think neither will have much of an edge on the ground. Add punches and wrestling, and the BJJ game will be a stand-off between these two. If it was a BJJ match, I would feel differently, of course. But within the dynamics of an MMA fight I cannot believe either fighter will impose a ground game on the other.

This is my money bet for this event. I love Pyle here. I feel he has a better chin, he is more fluid in the transitions, and his wrestling is good enough to ensure this fight will be decided by striking.

I feel confident Pyle has the ability to win this fight more often than lose it, so at +150 I am in strong.

Pelligrino is coming off a major knee injury/surgery and I think that may have a stronger negative effect on his performance than the ring rust. I like Tibau here too for a small play. Pelligrino doesn't have the BJJ to threaten Tibau on the ground, and as Vaughany mentioned Tibau will be a bit bigger (although it's important to note since Zuffa implemented a zero-tolerance policy on making weight, Tibau might not be cutting as many pounds he used to. If a fighter misses weight now, Zuffa may not even let that guy fight at all).

Sorry about the long post, perhaps you will forgive me considering this is my first post here! I am new to SBR, but not to MMA forums and certainly not to MMA wagering. I am looking forward to meeting some of you and contributing my 2 cents (which may be over-stating its value!).

Good luck this weekend, everyone!

Welcome to the forum dude and as Poppa said a good breakdown on the Almeida/Pyle fight . I agree that at the current odds Pyle is good value and the play should be on him. No doubt, if Pyle performs like he did against Hathaway then he has a great chance of winning this. Hope to see more posts from u

[rocky mattioli]

Cool interview, it's always interesting to hear from someone who has been through the jungles of wagering and has lived to tell about it. Some great points made and Judie did a great job, too.

I disagree on the Pyle/Almeida assessment, however. I give the edge to Pyle in striking by a far margin, and think his wrestling is also a bit stronger.

As for Almeida's BJJ advantage, it's obvious enough he has the superior credentials and experience. However, carefully watch his fights, and you will notice something. Almeida rarely attempts subs, particularly when you consider it is his bread-and-butter. His winning strategy is take his opponents down to the ground and smother them with control.

Almeida is a careful and smart veteran, who rarely will risk the better position for a sub attempt. He prefers to take the less risky route and get the W.

However, Pyle is himself a very experienced grappler, and I think neither will have much of an edge on the ground. Add punches and wrestling, and the BJJ game will be a stand-off between these two. If it was a BJJ match, I would feel differently, of course. But within the dynamics of an MMA fight I cannot believe either fighter will impose a ground game on the other.

This is my money bet for this event. I love Pyle here. I feel he has a better chin, he is more fluid in the transitions, and his wrestling is good enough to ensure this fight will be decided by striking.

I feel confident Pyle has the ability to win this fight more often than lose it, so at +150 I am in strong.

Pelligrino is coming off a major knee injury/surgery and I think that may have a stronger negative effect on his performance than the ring rust. I like Tibau here too for a small play. Pelligrino doesn't have the BJJ to threaten Tibau on the ground, and as Vaughany mentioned Tibau will be a bit bigger (although it's important to note since Zuffa implemented a zero-tolerance policy on making weight, Tibau might not be cutting as many pounds he used to. If a fighter misses weight now, Zuffa may not even let that guy fight at all).

Sorry about the long post, perhaps you will forgive me considering this is my first post here! I am new to SBR, but not to MMA forums and certainly not to MMA wagering. I am looking forward to meeting some of you and contributing my 2 cents (which may be over-stating its value!).

Good luck this weekend, everyone!

agree with vaughany..excellent post...

[LayingThe$Down]

That was truly a well thought out response, Layingthe$Down. You did a great job selling me on Pyle.

My only disagreement is a minor nitpick to bring up that there are quite a few high level BJJ players who's bread and butter is their ability to control their opponent, and they often win on points and not submissions. A high level BJJ doesn't necessarily mean a high level of sub game, as there are different paths. Further more most of the greats who do sub, use rather simple submissions (BJ Penn, Roger Gracie to name a few), they are able to pull this off partly because they are so skilled at submissions, but also because they have masterful control.

best of luck to you, good sir

Thank you guys for the warm welcome, much appreciated!

You make an excellent point, and I agree completely. I would just like to add a few points.

I certainly didn't mean for my post to be critical of Almeida or his fighting style in any way. I am merely stating Almeida is a crafty and experienced veteran who has been around MMA for a very long time.

He knows how to use his strengths to win, and he is very good at keeping opponents away from his weaknesses. I realize how difficult it is to sub an opponent in today's MMA. It is much easier to defend subs than offensively get one. Also, BJJ gains power as an opponent's strength is diminished. But in 3 5-minute rounds fatigue often doesn't become a large enough factor for the skill difference to assert itself during a fight (this is why the Gracies and other BBJ wizards prefer no time limits in MMA, although that is impracticable today in 2011....the longer the fight, the more often BJJ will find victory).

So, it makes sense for BJJ guys to more utilize their control to win as opposed to take the more risky route of giving up position or leaving yourself vulnerable to offense by attempting submissions that have an inherently low probability of success.

This is what I meant, and it is precisely why I think both fighters have sufficient cardio, MMA experience at the top level, and BJJ knowledge that neither guy will be able to impose a ground game on the other. Much in the same way that 2 wrestlers will often engage in a striking war as their wrestling counters each other.

Almeida has one path to victory in his fights: take his opponent down and win on the ground. When a BJJ practitioner runs into a better wrestler is when the trouble starts.

Almeida has done a great job at taking his opponents down in the UFC. However, if you look closely at his record, none of Almeida's recent victories have been against a wrestler or a guy who has beat wrestlers. However, on the other hand, Pyle's last 2 opponents have been guys that have demonstrated good wrestling abilities or beat good wrestlers.

This difference is key imo. It allows us to measure their wrestling abilities against each other to a decent extent. I think wrestling will determine the winner. If Almeida can take Pyle down and control him, he will win the decision, of course. If he cannot, Pyle will out-strike him on the feet. Pyle's striking is more diverse, more technical, and he hits harder. On the feet, they both move well but the advantage is all Pyle imo.

At + money, I think Pyle is the way to go here. He has more ways to win, he has beaten better competition lately, and I believe his wrestling is sufficient to counter Almeida's.

But we will see.

*fingers crossed*

Welcome to the forum dude and as Poppa said a good breakdown on the Almeida/Pyle fight . I agree that at the current odds Pyle is good value and the play should be on him. No doubt, if Pyle performs like he did against Hathaway then he has a great chance of winning this. Hope to see more posts from u

Thanks much! I really enjoyed your interview, and I am looking forward to future discussions with you. I think we will get along great!

agree with vaughany..excellent post...

I am glad you liked my opinion. I just hope it's correct!

I have been wanting to meet some cool people that I can discuss MMA wagering with, and I think this is the perfect place for me. I will miss the mark at times, but I hope to contribute positively here and provide an alternative view and facts for consideration.

I am confident I can help out sometimes, and I respect the knowledge here and know you guys will help me as well.

So, here's to the future, may we all win big bucks!

[xelance]

great stuff layingthe$down, I put a small play on Pyle based on your writeup. BOL!

[ttrace35]

All this niceness and agreeing, is making me sick. Let's get back to fighting. Fukk this shit.

[Vaughany]

All this niceness and agreeing, is making me sick. Let's get back to fighting. Fukk this shit.

haha Wers tht Ranx777 dude who was hatin on Shogun wen u need him!

[ttrace35]

haha Wers tht Ranx777 dude who was hatin on Shogun wen u need him!

Yea. I would love to go on a tirade.

[Poppa Catfish]

Thank you guys for the warm welcome, much appreciated!

You make an excellent point, and I agree completely. I would just like to add a few points.

I certainly didn't mean for my post to be critical of Almeida or his fighting style in any way. I am merely stating Almeida is a crafty and experienced veteran who has been around MMA for a very long time.

He knows how to use his strengths to win, and he is very good at keeping opponents away from his weaknesses. I realize how difficult it is to sub an opponent in today's MMA. It is much easier to defend subs than offensively get one. Also, BJJ gains power as an opponent's strength is diminished. But in 3 5-minute rounds fatigue often doesn't become a large enough factor for the skill difference to assert itself during a fight (this is why the Gracies and other BBJ wizards prefer no time limits in MMA, although that is impracticable today in 2011....the longer the fight, the more often BJJ will find victory).

So, it makes sense for BJJ guys to more utilize their control to win as opposed to take the more risky route of giving up position or leaving yourself vulnerable to offense by attempting submissions that have an inherently low probability of success.

This is what I meant, and it is precisely why I think both fighters have sufficient cardio, MMA experience at the top level, and BJJ knowledge that neither guy will be able to impose a ground game on the other. Much in the same way that 2 wrestlers will often engage in a striking war as their wrestling counters each other.

Almeida has one path to victory in his fights: take his opponent down and win on the ground. When a BJJ practitioner runs into a better wrestler is when the trouble starts.

Almeida has done a great job at taking his opponents down in the UFC. However, if you look closely at his record, none of Almeida's recent victories have been against a wrestler or a guy who has beat wrestlers. However, on the other hand, Pyle's last 2 opponents have been guys that have demonstrated good wrestling abilities or beat good wrestlers.

This difference is key imo. It allows us to measure their wrestling abilities against each other to a decent extent. I think wrestling will determine the winner. If Almeida can take Pyle down and control him, he will win the decision, of course. If he cannot, Pyle will out-strike him on the feet. Pyle's striking is more diverse, more technical, and he hits harder. On the feet, they both move well but the advantage is all Pyle imo.

At + money, I think Pyle is the way to go here. He has more ways to win, he has beaten better competition lately, and I believe his wrestling is sufficient to counter Almeida's.

But we will see.

*fingers crossed*




Thanks much! I really enjoyed your interview, and I am looking forward to future discussions with you. I think we will get along great!




I am glad you liked my opinion. I just hope it's correct!

I have been wanting to meet some cool people that I can discuss MMA wagering with, and I think this is the perfect place for me. I will miss the mark at times, but I hope to contribute positively here and provide an alternative view and facts for consideration.

I am confident I can help out sometimes, and I respect the knowledge here and know you guys will help me as well.

So, here's to the future, may we all win big bucks!

Here, here

and your Pyle pick that you sold me on, delivered as promised.

[RaiderNation MMA]

vaughany always struck me as an OG, kool to know he's a younger dude!

[LayingThe$Down]

Here, here

and your Pyle pick that you sold me on, delivered as promised.

We hit that one out of the park. The event was full of exciting fights, and the action and profits combined to make it a great night.

Already looking forward and working on the next event.

Glad you jumped aboard. I bet Hughes huge against Almeida for the same rationalizations used for this match-up. If Almeida is not the better wrestler in his bout, a win for him is extremely unlikely. Since I watched so much video on Almeida for that Hughes wager and really broke his style and abilities down, it gave me acute insight into how he would do against Pyle.

Worked out well this time. On to UFN 24.

[Handjuice]

That is pretty awesome, nice picks as well.