Pat Barry v. Kongo - on VS 4

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  • sirchadwick1
    SBR MVP
    • 06-02-10
    • 1375

    #1
    Pat Barry v. Kongo - on VS 4
    As much as I like Pat, I think he loses this fight. Kongo will probably get it to the ground and pound him out within 2 rounds. Barry still has not shown me any kind of ground game whatsoever. After he gets a couple of "cup chiecks" I expect him to break down. I like the fact that Barry is coming off a win and Kongo is coming off a draw. And Kongo lost two in a row before he beat Buentello. What would you expect the lines to be? Kongo as a dog would be nice!
  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #2
    Yeee buddy! Kongo all way for me, doubt he'll be dog but I expect will be no worse than -150.
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    • Poppa Catfish
      SBR MVP
      • 09-22-10
      • 3352

      #3
      Very nice, and as if betting against Barry wasn't enough, Kongo needs a win badly to stay relevant and maybe even to keep his job.
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      • sirchadwick1
        SBR MVP
        • 06-02-10
        • 1375

        #4
        I think I would take Kongo up to -160.
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #5
          Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
          Very nice, and as if betting against Barry wasn't enough, Kongo needs a win badly to stay relevant and maybe even to keep his job.
          Spot on..was just bout to say that he has 1 win in last 4 so it's not even like Barry can hope that Kongo rests on his laurels and initiates a stand-up war just to prove he's a better striker! He'll look for the clinch against the cage and takedown within opening minute in order to guarantee the victory.
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          • sirchadwick1
            SBR MVP
            • 06-02-10
            • 1375

            #6
            This fight could end up going a lot like the Al-Turk fight. I really hate seeing Barry get beat up... but until he becomes a complete MMA fighter, it's pretty much inevitable against some of these guys.
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            • Poppa Catfish
              SBR MVP
              • 09-22-10
              • 3352

              #7
              Originally posted by sirchadwick1
              I think I would take Kongo up to -160.
              Unless they hang a really soft line up there, I think we might have to take something higher than that, with little hope of people betting it down. Not an awful lot of Barry support, this isn't like the glorious Feijao/Henderson fight where people will think Barry + 140+ is a steal. I think we might have to stomach Kongo -200 (vaughany with your damn Paddy power please disregard this, you bastard)

              I won't touch it past -200, I will either find a prop or just let it be
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563

                #8
                Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                Unless they hang a really soft line up there, I think we might have to take something higher than that, with little hope of people betting it down. Not an awful lot of Barry support, this isn't like the glorious Feijao/Henderson fight where people will think Barry + 140+ is a steal. I think we might have to stomach Kongo -200 (vaughany with your damn Paddy power please disregard this, you bastard)

                I won't touch it past -200, I will either find a prop or just let it be
                ha -200 will be my limit as well.
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                • Poppa Catfish
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-22-10
                  • 3352

                  #9
                  This place is a great measuring stick though, so if there is a steady stream of people calling us retards, and that they would gladly take Barry as a medium sized dog, then we might be in luck. If everybody is on our side, I think its -200ville for us
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                    This place is a great measuring stick though, so if there is a steady stream of people calling us retards, and that they would gladly take Barry as a medium sized dog, then we might be in luck. If everybody is on our side, I think its -200ville for us
                    ha yeah, if sportbet/5dimes release the lines we might be in luck and get a similar Schaub/CC line opener, if it's bookmaker as usual who set the line then a lot more likely to be -200 or worse.
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                    • LearningTree
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 08-02-10
                      • 216

                      #11
                      Have to go with Kongo because of the wrestling and GNP. I don't think he will be a big favorite judging by the Barry/Beltran line.
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                      • RaiderNation MMA
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-05-10
                        • 598

                        #12
                        i actually think kongo will be the dog, but we will see
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                        • omalley21
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-08-10
                          • 908

                          #13
                          Kongo by decision. Barry has looked terrible why would he be the favorite?
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                          • Kaladarus
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-11-09
                            • 1876

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LearningTree
                            Have to go with Kongo because of the wrestling and GNP. I don't think he will be a big favorite judging by the Barry/Beltran line.
                            I agree, Kongo's going to do a lot of GNP. Barry will accept all of Kongo's takedowns.
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                            • Tree Rollins
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-16-09
                              • 3968

                              #15
                              Kongo is just more well-rounded. On the feet, it could go either way, but if Kongo is smart he works the GNP, like some of you said.
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                              • rocky mattioli
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-26-10
                                • 1263

                                #16
                                i wouldn`t bet any props until we learn whether barry "befriends" kongo.....
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                                • FlashinLeather
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-04-11
                                  • 573

                                  #17
                                  I love kickboxing yet I don't give a shit about this fight. At least we will see some highlight reel nut shots.
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                                  • robotralph
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 12-15-10
                                    • 411

                                    #18
                                    The silverback gorilla will have trouble against barry.
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                                    • bogbat
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-21-10
                                      • 1843

                                      #19
                                      I was hoping Kongo would get match up with Matt Mitrione.
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                                      • RaiderNation MMA
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-05-10
                                        • 598

                                        #20
                                        mitrione vs struve!
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                                        • jin2daj
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 11-01-09
                                          • 816

                                          #21
                                          kongo via gnp tko. against guys who cant wrestle, kongo tds are pretty significant.
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                                          • Mr.Kitty
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-10-09
                                            • 1880

                                            #22
                                            Kongo for the win! Barry is a funny dude, cant dislike him. Theres lots of videos and pictures circulating on the web of him and Skyskrape from the Tapout crew doing some crazy shit.



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                                            • snake11eyes
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 07-28-10
                                              • 618

                                              #23
                                              I'll take a shot with Barry if he gets to +140 or better. Dude's got those nasty leg kicks and Kongo might be stupid enough to stand with him.
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by snake11eyes
                                                I'll take a shot with Barry if he gets to +140 or better. Dude's got those nasty leg kicks and Kongo might be stupid enough to stand with him.
                                                Tis possible....but Kongo didnt even bother standing with an inferior striker in Buentello and was relentless with his takedowns. Also, though less relentless with the takedowns, the situation was similar against Hardonk and Evensen who he took down 2 or 3 times before finishing with GNP.
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #25
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                                                  • cheeese
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-22-11
                                                    • 784

                                                    #26
                                                    Barry win this easy by TKO in the 1st!
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                                                    • cheeese
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 02-22-11
                                                      • 784

                                                      #27
                                                      I think Kongo -200 or better is very good. We should start some Barry propaganda to inflate the line.
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