haye is a nobody with a big mouth....if not for the hype he creates with his mouth wlad would be -400 if not higher.
OMG haye beat some elite HW in valuev, ruiz, and harrison LMAO what a joke
OMG haye beat some elite HW in valuev, ruiz, and harrison LMAO what a joke

got +450
As for Valuev, that cant be taken seriously b/c in his *previous* fight, he was clearly beaten by an Evander Holyfield who is pushing FIFTY years old, lol. Evander clearly won 7 rounds in maybe the worst fight for a belt in heavyweight history - neither guy able to throw an even half decent punch. But that Evander was robbed is uncontroversial, maybe you can check it out on Youtube, Valuev was already well-finished by then. Obviously a safe opponent for Haye to Cherry Pick. Maybe not if it was the Valuev of several years ago of course, but that's not who this big guy was. As for his other two fights, Barret and Harrison, well...I shouldnt even have to comment, agree?