Your UFC 123 Best Play

**lasker** · 11-20-10, 11:22 AM

I think Griffin's a really solid play. I have very high confidence that Foster will win, and since his odds are better I'll go with him as the best play. Although I've noticed money is coming in on Brown for some reason, but I'm not going to let it bother me too much in this case. Maybe I should. Foster was at -160 a few days ago, -145 yesterday and today he's at -135. BOL

**Vaughany** · 11-20-10, 11:29 AM

Sotiropolous/Lauzon to decision and Hughes/Penn to decision are my best plays I think. With regard to just straight bets on a fighter to win I'd say Hallman at +130 or better is best play.

**lasker** · 11-20-10, 11:53 AM

Hughes/Penn to decision.... almost forgot that one. Yes, that's the best play

**jacktheknife** · 11-20-10, 05:03 PM

Not that I can get any of these props, but it seems to me the most likely of any of these fights to go the distance is Hallman and Parisiyan. Neither have ever been submitted and neither have any really dangerous stand-up to speak of. Karo's never even had a tko.

**Vaughany** · 11-20-10, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by jacktheknife

Not that I can get any of these props, but it seems to me the most likely of any of these fights to go the distance is Hallman and Parisiyan. Neither have ever been submitted and neither have any really dangerous stand-up to speak of. Karo's never even had a tko.

I agree, this should go to decision, but I dont think anybody can get prop bets for the undercard. Otherwise I'd of put a few units on this going to decision and Griffin winning by decision.

**jin2daj** · 11-20-10, 05:31 PM

i like griffin beating lentz too.

**cky312** · 11-20-10, 07:19 PM

The best plays IMO isn't available in any books, as stated before. It's the undercard fights: Griffin by decision and Hallman Parisiyan decision.

A fairly safe one in my mind is Machida by decision and Rampage by KO/TKO as insurance. I really don't see either fighter winning any other way.

**CollegeOverUnder** · 11-20-10, 07:26 PM

Im heavy on Mark Munoz -135

**rocky mattioli** · 11-20-10, 07:27 PM

lentz scares me...hope you guys are right...

**jacktheknife** · 11-20-10, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by jin2daj

i like griffin beating lentz too.

In about 10 minutes I'm gonna regret not betting on Griffin.

**Poppa Catfish** · 11-20-10, 07:38 PM

Weird fight for them to start the night out with. Going to piss off the fans for sure. I think the Lullo fight with a nice quick finish would have been a better opener.

**rocky mattioli** · 11-20-10, 07:45 PM

from mma junkie`s rbr,this fight could go either way...hoping for griffin...

**jacktheknife** · 11-20-10, 07:46 PM

Oh shit! Lentz took it.

**rocky mattioli** · 11-20-10, 07:47 PM

split for lentz...i really didn`t get why everybody felt so sure...

sorry...

**Poppa Catfish** · 11-20-10, 07:48 PM

Well most places have it scored for Griffin. Judges do some wacky stuff, doesn't mean that people were wrong about this being a good bet

Food for thought though if you are betting on a fight that could go to decision

**WIZARDOFBEANTOWN** · 11-20-10, 07:53 PM

jo lo wins by dec

**rocky mattioli** · 11-20-10, 07:53 PM

griffin`s been in a funk......just couldn`t lay the 2+ to 1...
lot more action to go...

**snake11eyes** · 11-20-10, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by Poppa Catfish

Well most places have it scored for Griffin. Judges do some wacky stuff, doesn't mean that people were wrong about this being a good bet

Here we go with the bs judges. I didnt see the fight, but like fish said I see a lot of griffin on the unofficial cards.

**Poppa Catfish** · 11-20-10, 08:02 PM

Yeah, it sounds like a close fight...

but when you have one judge scoring it 30-27 in favor of Griffin and two other judges giving it 29-28 the other way, it feels a little screwy. They really need to tighten up scoring. Of course this is nothing new.

**lasker** · 11-20-10, 08:03 PM

sherdog reports that the crowd was shocked by the decision. sherdog also scored it 30-27 Griffin. These judges are bribed or blind. Happens every event, with the result usually against the popular bet. I'll wait to see the fight, but I'm so sick of this bullshit.

**Poppa Catfish** · 11-20-10, 08:05 PM

I'm feeling the urge to put some money on Hughes via decision ......

just saying

**lasker** · 11-20-10, 08:06 PM

Appropriately, they're now showing Sherk vs Dunham on Spike. Right after they showed Guillard vs Stephens.

Ah, the memories ...

I admit I'm paranoid, but I think the judges must be bribed.

**cky312** · 11-20-10, 08:06 PM

I'm reading from 2 of the most reputable MMA sites (sherdog and MMAJunkie) and neither gave a single round to Lentz.

Good thing I didn't invest too heavy in Griffin, if the Griffin by decision line was open I probably would have hammered it.

**rocky mattioli** · 11-20-10, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by lasker

sherdog reports that the crowd was shocked by the decision. sherdog also scored it 30-27 Griffin. These judges are bribed or blind. Happens every event, with the result usually against the popular bet. I'll wait to see the fight, but I'm so sick of this bullshit.

big problem in mma...you see some of the state athletic commissions forcing their judges down the throats of the sport...many of them boxing judges who couldn`t find their way home from work...

**lasker** · 11-20-10, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by cky312

I'm reading from 2 of the most reputable MMA sites (sherdog and MMAJunkie) and neither gave a single round to Lentz.

Good thing I didn't invest too heavy in Griffin, if the Griffin by decision line was open I probably would have hammered it.

I'm looking at those two sites and three others. Of the five sites, not a single one scored the fight for Lentz. Typical of mma judging... screws us over, but nothing to do

**Eccocide** · 11-21-10, 01:17 PM

Being there live, I think the whole crowd was in disbelief. I had it 30-27 Griffin but I could see it 29-28 with Lentz getting the last round because of the takedowns. He didnt do any damage with them though and also got dropped a couple times. Tysons standup looked very good once he started letting his hands go. I thought he clearly won the first 2 rounds. Bad break for Griffin backers.

**snake11eyes** · 11-21-10, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Eccocide

Being there live, I think the whole crowd was in disbelief. I had it 30-27 Griffin but I could see it 29-28 with Lentz getting the last round because of the takedowns. He didnt do any damage with them though and also got dropped a couple times. Tysons standup looked very good once he started letting his hands go. I thought he clearly won the first 2 rounds. Bad break for Griffin backers.

Nothing new for me ending up on the wrong side of a bad decision. It sure killed my night laying 6u to win 3 though.