Wow cain!!!!!

JuicedUp · 10-23-10, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by brumbies

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT??

LLXC · 10-23-10, 11:36 PM

It's not like Cain was a heavy dog...the books knew

sportsfanatic · 10-23-10, 11:42 PM

i was completely wrong about this fight. cain is going to be tough to stop. good stand up with power and great wrestler. plus the guy has cardio.

iQon · 10-23-10, 11:59 PM

I'm saying the same thing.

I did consider Cain a live dog; but after Brock survived that Carwin rally, there was no chance I was putting money against him. Luckily I passed on betting this one.

Too bad there won't be an immediate rematch, though.

King Mayan · 10-24-10, 12:14 AM

I was going to go all in on Velasquez but my phone wouldn't let me log in...

brooks85 · 10-24-10, 12:38 AM

JDS is screwed

Poppa Catfish · 10-24-10, 12:58 AM

Brings the belt back to AKA

knownone · 10-24-10, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

JDS is screwed

IDK about that; Jr. has solid takedown defense and much better striking if he can keep distance and work angles Cain will get his first loss.

Vaughany · 10-24-10, 06:07 AM

Originally posted by knownone

IDK about that; Jr. has solid takedown defense and much better striking if he can keep distance and work angles Cain will get his first loss.

Velasquez should beat Dos Santos, I don't think Dos Santos necessarily has better striking, Velasquez has better leg kicks and speed. Also have wrestling advantage and Dos Santos is not gonna submit Cain off his back.

knownone · 10-24-10, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Velasquez should beat Dos Santos, I don't think Dos Santos necessarily has better striking, Velasquez has better leg kicks and speed. Also have wrestling advantage and Dos Santos is not gonna submit Cain off his back.

Technically speaking Dos Santos is the far superior striker; I don't see any significant speed advantage.

I do agree though with the wrestling advantage; if Cain is gonna win this he's gonna have to take JDS down which I don't think anyone has done yet.

BobbyXxX · 10-24-10, 02:53 PM

should of seen it coming and saved sum of my bankroll lost on Brock

Vaughany · 10-24-10, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by knownone

Technically speaking Dos Santos is the far superior striker; I don't see any significant speed advantage.

I do agree though with the wrestling advantage; if Cain is gonna win this he's gonna have to take JDS down which I don't think anyone has done yet.

Yep Dos Santos has better technical boxing, but he rarely uses leg kicks unlike Cain who has vicious technical leg kicks and wont hesitate to use them as he wont be worried about Dos Santos taking him down. Dos Santos has great hand speed and power but doesnt have equally great head movement or even footwork, I think Cain can tag him a few times as well although obviously should look to mix it up with leg kicks and take downs mostly.

dooman14 · 10-24-10, 06:25 PM

had no money but had sbr points on cain glad he won if brock wants to get better he needs to work striking he just found out he can't bully everyone congrats cain and on a side note.....dos santos has a punchers chance but i totally agree with the leg and body kicks may take the sting outta his strikes

GoldenYAK · 10-24-10, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by knownone

Technically speaking Dos Santos is the far superior striker; I don't see any significant speed advantage.

I do agree though with the wrestling advantage; if Cain is gonna win this he's gonna have to take JDS down which I don't think anyone has done yet.

Watch the JDS fight with Joaquim Ferreira, he gets taken down pretty easily and subbed. And Joaquim isn't even a strong wrestler like Cain. 2 years of JDS training TDD isn't going to offset the lifetime cain has been developing his own wrestling abilities. Cain by TKO/KO again, JDS lasts into the 2nd or 3rd though.

jgilmartin · 10-24-10, 10:50 PM

So glad Cain won...after Carwin nearly did it and then got subbed, I didn't know if Cain had enough power to go with his cardio. Absolutely thrilled he did.

36mafia · 10-25-10, 12:34 AM

imagine if the fight was on cinco de mayo

table of mexicans were going ape shit at hooters when cain won

illmatick · 10-25-10, 01:36 AM

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DiggityDaggityDo · 10-25-10, 01:40 AM

Brown Pride ain't no joke.

jin2daj · 10-25-10, 04:22 AM

when has AKA held the belt beofre?

Vaughany · 10-25-10, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by jin2daj

when has AKA held the belt beofre?

They havnt! This is gonna give Koscheck even further illusions of grandeur! Cant wait till GSP totally dominates him!

Vrakas · 10-25-10, 06:44 AM

cain will beat dosantos,easy fight.tito is now ready for the worlds most dangerous man.its the only way dana can make some of his money back.shields is ready for gsp but dana needs to tell gsp to go easy on him.i would suggest that he fights in slow motion so that the fight is not completely one sided.

southmadejd · 10-25-10, 02:26 PM

Vrakas, on what planet is Shields ready for GSP? I couldn't believe how bad he still looks in the stand up. Training with Melendez, Nick and Nate Diaz should eventually make your striking better but he doesn't seem as though he has improved one bit. It will be hard for any fighter to top him in the boring fight department. GSP is going to embarrass him when Shields doesn't get one takedown.

Vaughany · 10-25-10, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by southmadejd

Vrakas, on what planet is Shields ready for GSP? I couldn't believe how bad he still looks in the stand up. Training with Melendez, Nick and Nate Diaz should eventually make your striking better but he doesn't seem as though he has improved one bit. It will be hard for any fighter to top him in the boring fight department. GSP is going to embarrass him when Shields doesn't get one takedown.

Ye I think Fitch would take Shields at the moment nevermind GSP.

playa420 · 10-25-10, 06:35 PM

cains a bad ************, cain vs jds is gonna be a bad ass fight

Vrakas · 10-25-10, 06:57 PM

yes.I was being funny.the only way gsp will loose is if he breaks both of his arms prior to the fight.shields has no chance.fitch is a million times better and a million times more deserving a title shot.something must be wrong with dana.since he resigned useless tito back with a multi million dollar contract his brain stopped working.After the slow motion non action fight finished. shields could barely stand.

Vaughany · 10-26-10, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by Vrakas

yes.I was being funny.the only way gsp will loose is if he breaks both of his arms prior to the fight.shields has no chance.fitch is a million times better and a million times more deserving a title shot.something must be wrong with dana.since he resigned useless tito back with a multi million dollar contract his brain stopped working.After the slow motion non action fight finished. shields could barely stand.

Well Dana doesnt get on with AKA does he due to Koscheck and Fitch not wanting to fight eachother and the whole Undisputed computer game ordeal.

Vaughany · 10-26-10, 04:13 PM

Cain out on Bodog at -185 now at -250 whilst Dos Santos has gone from +155 to +190. I think Velasquez odds will improve to about -200 by fight time and Dos Santos at +160.

playa420 · 10-26-10, 04:40 PM

really like dos santos as the dog, it wasnt that long ago that kongo had cain on queer street and dos santos has really good striking and good tdd

illmatick · 10-26-10, 11:59 PM

Dos Santos at +210 or better would be nice.

not sure we'll see it though.

JuicedUp · 10-27-10, 12:52 AM

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