whoa, Carlos Condit is +145???

jin2daj · 10-15-10, 12:07 AM

hardy is bigger and hard to submit.

lasker · 10-15-10, 12:28 AM

Hardy's striking technique is sounder and he hits harder than Condit, regardless of whether or not his power is overrated. Condit will not have an easy time taking him down, should he choose that gameplan, because his wrestling isn't good enough. Not many here seem to think Hardy can finish Condit but I actually think he will.

brooks85 · 10-15-10, 12:37 AM

if jake couldnt put condit out it is very unlikely hardy will

vassman86 · 10-15-10, 07:32 AM

GSP couldn't even finish Hardy; probably explains why Hardy is such a favourite over Condit.

Vaughany · 10-15-10, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

if jake couldnt put condit out it is very unlikely hardy will

Yeah, I agree, Ellenberger has more power than Hardy so it seems highly illogical to me to think that Hardy could KO Condit!

Kaladarus · 10-15-10, 08:00 AM

Condit likes to keep fights standing and Hardy should be able to out strike him no problem. Condit is also a slow starter and may lose the first two rounds. A close decision will probably favor Hardy since the fight is in the UK. Also Hardy won't be that easy to takedown since Condit's wrestling isn't that great. I agree with Lasker and think Hardy could potentially finish this fight. If Condit comes in with a good game plan he can pull off a close win, but Condit's current style can be countered by Hardy.

Fiasco01 · 10-15-10, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Yeah, I agree, Ellenberger has more power than Hardy so it seems highly illogical to me to think that Hardy could KO Condit!

If that's the case then let's not discount the fact this is in the UK and that by default gives Hardy a one round advantage on the cards before the fight starts.

Vaughany · 10-15-10, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Fiasco01

If that's the case then let's not discount the fact this is in the UK and that by default gives Hardy a one round advantage on the cards before the fight starts.

Yee have to wait and see, hopefully the judges are American and give Condit the decision...will mean more money for me!

Boddhissatva · 10-15-10, 12:26 PM

There are two key assets hardy has going for him in this fight.

First is home field advantage, this may sway the judges.

Second, his strength and size may be the deciding factor in this.

I don't see Condit controlling Hardy on the ground because of this.

That being said, Condit is a good fighter and has many tools. i'm making a small wager due to the odds.

jin2daj · 10-15-10, 01:01 PM

i think this fight goes to dec regardless.

Vaughany · 10-15-10, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by jin2daj

i think this fight goes to dec regardless.

Hope so!

THE_LOCKSMITH · 10-15-10, 01:24 PM

Yea the odds reflect that Hardy as a home town fav who went 5 rounds in his last fight with GSP. Condit was getting lit up by Rory MacDonald before he pulled that one out late, and Hardy is known for having tight boxing.

playa420 · 10-15-10, 04:44 PM

Condits a tough dude, and has a good shot to pull off the upset. If he goes for takedowns he could win a close decision.

stefan084 · 10-15-10, 04:54 PM

its hard for the judges not to be swayed when 20,000 people are making it seem like every punch hardy throws is a homerun. its the psych aspect--the judges are weak minded and half retarded as we have seen in the past

lasker · 10-15-10, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by stefan084

its hard for the judges not to be swayed when 20,000 people are making it seem like every punch hardy throws is a homerun. its the psych aspect--the judges are weak minded and half retarded as we have seen in the past

Bisping and Condit had a fun little exchange during the press conference when Condit (quite rightly, IMO) was saying this. Well, Bisping should know a thing or two about being gifted a decision in London, shouldn't he? I guess it's a touchy subject for him.

Shane · 10-15-10, 07:48 PM

Between the size advantage and the fact that Condit is a slow-starter, I would expect Hardy to push the fight early and bully Carlos. Think it'll be a competitive fight for the most part though.