Boxings winter schedule looks good

Pabinator · 10-11-10, 11:29 AM

Two cheaters getting a big payday

Flexin · 10-11-10, 11:36 AM

Who is the other cheater?

I like to see Briggs and Manny win with big KO's.

I would love to see Manny and Mayweather fight next.

James

bruce_outside · 10-11-10, 03:02 PM

nov 6: feathers-juan manuel lopez vs rafael marquez. young, explosive figther vs. older, more technical fighter. going w/ lopez because marquez was knocked down several times in the vasquez fights at 122lb. marquez spent most of his career at bantam.

illmatick · 10-11-10, 03:17 PM

I have big plans.

rocky mattioli · 10-11-10, 06:17 PM

maidana/khan on a neutral....pascal/bhop........

JuicedUp · 10-11-10, 11:43 PM

Boxing

Grits n' Gravy · 10-12-10, 03:16 PM

shameful margarito gets a big payday. manny is going to walk through him. don't see floyd/manny happening anytime soon. floyd's legal mess is going to keep him away for some time.

HauntingTheHoly · 10-16-10, 11:24 AM

Haye vs. Harrison. Harrison wins by surprise KO. Just Joking. But imagine the humor?

HauntingTheHoly · 10-16-10, 11:25 AM

Abraham vs. Froch is the one I want to see most. Thoughts?

Pabinator · 10-16-10, 12:30 PM

The other cheater is PacRoid

Poster X · 10-16-10, 03:22 PM

heavyweights going at it later.

shady610 · 10-17-10, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by HauntingTheHoly

Abraham vs. Froch is the one I want to see most. Thoughts?

when is this? i like to wathc arthur fight..

also love to see wards next ifght

Ian · 10-17-10, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by shady610

when is this? i like to wathc arthur fight..

November 27. Link to full card here.

There should be a lot of banging in this one. I'm looking forward to seeing it also.

EDIT: Heavyweight Robert Helenius is on the undercard too. He's been annihilating good journeyman for the past year and may have the best shot of anybody in the division of beating a Klitschko.

HauntingTheHoly · 10-19-10, 01:56 AM

I want to bet a points handicap on Hopkins in the Pascal fight. But I'm not sure the fight is big enough for bodog to post such a line, as they only go all out with boxing props for really big PPV's. Can anyone tell me of another book that might have this or other props?

Czu81 · 10-19-10, 06:04 AM

Harrison and Margarito not deserve those fights... Harrison?? but at least he will be very motivated.. Bhop and the Paul williams fight looks interesting to me...

HauntingTheHoly · 10-20-10, 11:27 PM

Khan vs. Maidana is interesting. I've not seen enough of Maidana to know who to pick. Khan seems to be possibly too heavy a favorite though. He has a much bigger fan base and training with Roach makes him much more hyped.

KuLaPhU · 10-29-10, 01:10 AM

He's never tested positive on any drugs according to nv state athletic commission.. he's clean and legit

KuLaPhU · 10-29-10, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Pabinator

The other cheater is PacRoid

He's never tested positive on any drugs according to nv state athletic commission.. he's clean and legit.

jin2daj · 10-29-10, 02:03 AM

i should watch more boxing. im totally lost now.

KuLaPhU · 10-29-10, 05:01 AM

I only watch pacman's boxing fights and mike tyson's back in the day

Pabinator · 10-29-10, 11:10 AM

Right, A lot of other cheaters never tested positive either

KuLaPhU · 10-29-10, 12:19 PM

what about sugar shane?? Was + on steroids.. every boxer has to go drug screening. I don't think you can cheat that. btw, pacman agreed to floyd's Demand. The Olympic style drug test. pacman has nothing to hide.

HauntingTheHoly · 11-05-10, 05:23 AM

This Sat. we got Green vs. Johnson and Rafa Marquez vs. JuanMa Lopez. I love Johnson to win, but how will having to lose 7 extra pounds affect him? Anyone have a link to relevent info? I've not been able to find much.

rocky mattioli · 11-05-10, 07:02 AM

i`ll put up some weigh-in photos later in the day(time permitting)...

and i`ll put up a few observations from some of my sharper boxing acquaintances...

every little bit helps...

smallon · 11-05-10, 08:24 AM

Khan is much improved since being Ko'd - he's not hype, he's the real deal. I've seen him in training and in his last few fights and he's a different fighter now. Maidana on the other hand, is sturdy, fairly straightforward and although he's a tough nut for anyone to crack, he's not as mobile as Khan and I believe he's going to receive a fair amount of punishment. The over/under is at 9 1/2 and I'll take the over as well as Khan straight up.

I like Lopez against Marquez, via KO - this fight isn't going the distance.

One dog possibly worth looking at is Katsidis in his bout against Marquez - although Marquez is the more skilled of the two, he is older and was rocked by Juan Diaz in his first fight. If he was rocked by Diaz then if Katsidis catches him, he's going to get stopped. So Katsidis is worth a shot at +245 to win and +372 by KO.

The odds aren't good enough for me to bite straight up (I bet small in a parlay), but there's almost no chance of Vinvin Ruffino beating Malcolm Klassen in S.A. I've seen Ruffino fight many times and 1) he doesn't listen to his corner when he should, 2) he is limited 3) he is a straight ahead fighter and Klassen can box, and 4) they're in S.A.

With regards to Green-Johnson - I think Johnson is going to rise to the occasion and win that fight via late stoppage or decision. His experience will be the difference and the weight won't matter. He's too slick, too smart and too determined to lose to Green in this situation.

HauntingTheHoly · 11-05-10, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by rocky mattioli

i`ll put up some weigh-in photos later in the day(time permitting)...

and i`ll put up a few observations from some of my sharper boxing acquaintances...

every little bit helps...

Sounds great. Who are your sharper boxing acquaintances, friends with great past records? I'm always happy to hear from people like that. I consider myself to be good, but my knowledge of lesser known fighters is limited.

HauntingTheHoly · 11-05-10, 03:37 PM

@smallon

I agree with you on Johnson in theory, but only he himself or his camp can know for sure if he can perform at 168. If the weight does drain him of all his strength, there won't be anything "determination" can do, no? I hope he can perform close to his normal self, b/c if he can, this is an easy, easy bet to win.

That said, I'll probably just make a small bet, given the unknown of this weight issue.

I feel Marquez is a very live underdog and that if the fight goes the distance, he wins. It's also a distinct possibility that he KO's Lopez. And of course, Lopez could win by KO. If Marquez is smart enough to carefully BOX the first two thirds of the fight, he's got a good shot. If he tries to trade with Lopez early, like a lunatic, he'll be KTFO. I'm assuming he's smarter than that.

illmatick · 11-05-10, 05:22 PM

don't forget about Zab Judah vs Lucas Mathysse tomorrow as well, some big money came in on Mathysse last night....For Free on HBO

I have a quick write-up for the fight.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-articles/sports/16427/boxing-betting-odds-judah-vs-matthysse.aspx

smallon · 11-06-10, 01:24 AM

I put money on the Argentinian, however, if you know boxing you know that Sampson Lewkowicz has a habit of bringing in Argentinians with padded records who tend to fold. In this case I don't think it will happen though but you never know. Judah is a legend in his own mind and although he's supposedly been training hard, I have my doubts about him in the trenches. My pick is the Argentinian via late round TKO or decision - I think Judah, for all his flash and style, will wear down and get a bit of a smackdown in the final quarter of the bout.

dmiles1021 · 11-06-10, 02:35 AM

i dont know what makes ppl think pac is gonna run through Margarito, I think Margarito has a legit shot at beating pac by applying pressure, Margarito has more strength and at 3 to 1 odds from a betting point of view I'll take Margarito +300.

iQon · 11-06-10, 05:09 AM

Wow, I'm waaaaay out of the loop with boxing.

@ Showtime for prolonging the Super Six by keeping Green. He looked horrible against Ward and did nothing but make excuses. And they replace Kessler with a Glen Johnson? The Light Heavyweight that grunts and clinches for 12 rounds, gets robbed on the cards and complains?

I think Green needs a KO and help to even advance. Talk about a waste of time.

JuanMa/Marquez looks good. Pac/Marg = countdown to the re-emerging Floyd/Pacquiao debates in 18 hours

smallon · 11-06-10, 09:18 AM

The Johnson-Green bout is one I prefer to watch after I know the result. Judah and the Argentinian, well, I'm always happy to watch Judah implode and Marquez - Lopez promises to be a barnburner. Nacho Beristain will have Marquez in fantastic condition. While I favor Lopez, it's only by a c*nt hair and I wish neither of them had to lose.

MarlinsFan2212 · 11-06-10, 09:28 AM

Hope Hopkins wins.

illmatick · 11-08-10, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by smallon

I put money on the Argentinian, however, if you know boxing you know that Sampson Lewkowicz has a habit of bringing in Argentinians with padded records who tend to fold. In this case I don't think it will happen though but you never know. Judah is a legend in his own mind and although he's supposedly been training hard, I have my doubts about him in the trenches. My pick is the Argentinian via late round TKO or decision - I think Judah, for all his flash and style, will wear down and get a bit of a smackdown in the final quarter of the bout.

good play but the judges had their way with us, split decision never feels good. only 1 judge gave the fight to Mathysse