What about that 30-27 Thomson?!? What was your score?

illmatick · 10-09-10, 11:56 PM

I had JZ in a nice sized parlay

......luckily Diaz and the over 2.5 rounds came through for me

not even all that debatable imo

1. JZ rocks him and almost submits him..there's now way Thompson's choke attempt at the end was enough to cancel that out

2.Thompson easy

3. JZ easy

correct score was 29-28 JZ....at best you would have to score it a draw for Thompson if you wanted to be generous

syn^ · 10-10-10, 12:01 AM

I had it 29-28 JZ. Worse part is I had 3 fight parlay coenen/JZ/diaz 50 to make 450. Would have been a nice night but the judges screwed me again like they did with dunham vs sherk.

terpkeg · 10-10-10, 08:35 AM

I can definetly see how someone could score it 29-28 JZ, and I think that is fair. However, I think people in MMA give a little too much credit for knockdowns because historically in boxing, a knockdown was worth a 10-8 round.

I just think it is completely different. In boxing, not going to the ground is part of the sport. In MMA, fights take place on the ground, many times people are off balance or will roll with a punch and go to the ground at their own will after getting hit.

Anyway, I dont know how bad he was actually hurt and he was completely composed in the guillitine. Thomson landed some nice strikes at the end of the fight that could have had more of an effect. It is hard to say. I thought it was a draw round.

sundin4prez · 10-10-10, 09:01 AM

absolute bullshit, i liked how thompson called out the judges saying theres no way i won 30-27.......... i personaly had it 29-28 for thompson.... there is no possible way thompson won that last round....

illmatick · 10-10-10, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by terpkeg

I can definetly see how someone could score it 29-28 JZ, and I think that is fair. However, I think people in MMA give a little too much credit for knockdowns because historically in boxing, a knockdown was worth a 10-8 round.

I just think it is completely different. In boxing, not going to the ground is part of the sport. In MMA, fights take place on the ground, many times people are off balance or will roll with a punch and go to the ground at their own will after getting hit.

Anyway, I dont know how bad he was actually hurt and he was completely composed in the guillitine. Thomson landed some nice strikes at the end of the fight that could have had more of an effect. It is hard to say. I thought it was a draw round.

valid point and I admit that's usually my line of thinking, but having someone visibly hurt in the round should count for a whole lot(more than whatever little damage Thompson was able to do on top, IMO)....I definitely think Thompson was hurt but he just recovered quickly(he naturally has great recovery time, like when Gilbert Melendez rocked him)..that's why he was composed in the guillotine...that shouldn't take away from the fact that the punch seriously rocked/hurt him.

Vaughany · 10-10-10, 09:19 AM

That judge who gave Thomson a 30-27 must of loved it when Thomson was gesturing to the camera in the third round...appreciated the banter and gave him an extra point for it!

Fiasco01 · 10-10-10, 09:28 AM

JZ seemed really calm about the decision even though you could tell once the fight ended he felt he won. I'm surprised the commentary wasn't a little more open about the decision as well considering moments before the fight they all though JZ won.

Kaladarus · 10-10-10, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by Fiasco01

JZ seemed really calm about the decision even though you could tell once the fight ended he felt he won. I'm surprised the commentary wasn't a little more open about the decision as well considering moments before the fight they all though JZ won.

I don't think the commentators thought JZ won. Melendez thought JZ won and thats about it. I can't remember who else gave there opinion, but someone had the first two scored for Thomson. It doesn't make sense for them to argue about it since thats not there job. The whole night all three commentators were scoring fights slightly different, but there's no point in arguing a close decision. Personally, I saw the first round go to Thomson quite decisively. JZ rocked him, but Thomson took advantage of that situation more than JZ did. He immediately went for a takedown. JZ grabbed what he could.(A submission very unlikely to finish the fight) Thomson was never really in any danger at all that round and the top position he held for half the round along with the submission attempt at the end should secure the round quite comfortably. After about 20seconds it should have been fairly obvious JZ's guillotine wasn't effective and therefore all JZ had was guard. Staying in some ones guard loses fights.

Kaladarus · 10-10-10, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

That judge who gave Thomson a 30-27 must of loved it when Thomson was gesturing to the camera in the third round...appreciated the banter and gave him an extra point for it!

When you have judges that don't know how to do their job judging, sometimes all it takes is a gesture to win the round/fight. That was probably the most significant thing Thomson did that round anyways.

lasker · 10-10-10, 01:25 PM

I picked Thomson by decision, so for once the questionable judging helped me, but there is a serious problem when a judge calls this 30-27 for Thomson. That's yet another example of the state of judging in MMA these days. It feels like there was at least one (and often many) outrageous score(s) at literally every event in recent memory. It's killing it for me.

I thought JZ won the fight, though it's certainly not a robbery to score it 29-28 Thomson.

snake11eyes · 10-10-10, 02:22 PM

I had JZ winning 29-28, but I bet Thomson so I was happy to get that decision. Judging by the reaction of Thomson he was the most shocked by the decision. The judge who scored 30-27 what can you say. Bad judging is here to stay, just hope you're on the right side.

Eccocide · 10-10-10, 02:41 PM

I scored it a draw with the first round being even. I wouldnt have been surprised with 29-28 for either guy as judges never score draw rounds. 30-27 was laughable though, as Thomson said himself. I will say I was impressed with his performance after finding out he had busted up ankles and a partially torn MCL from training. I guess that explains the line movement. Dunno if that guy will ever be fully healthy for a fight again.

Shane · 10-10-10, 03:26 PM

Awful scoring by the judges, but the post-fight comments were extremely refreshing. Josh Thomson has a new fan.

jin2daj · 10-10-10, 04:21 PM

awful scoring for sure.

Tree Rollins · 10-10-10, 04:56 PM

At least Thompson called out the judge for being an idiot. That needs to happen more often.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 10-10-10, 07:21 PM

yea I thought JZ won, i wonder if JZ being a DREAM fighter came into the judges decision. They usually back the StrikeFoce fighters

urge2kill · 10-10-10, 11:00 PM

MMA judging is a joke.

Kaladarus · 10-10-10, 11:16 PM

I'm sure these bigger organizations and the UFC especially could do something about the judging. The problem is every time there's a bad decision Dana White says he has no control over who they pick to judge. The UFC makes a lot of money. He pays people to get him new cities that he can host events in because that makes him more money. Realistically, something can be done about judging, but it will probably cost money. From a business stand point it makes no sense to spend money on something that will not make you any money. Bad decisions don't cost the UFC or Strikeforce money because they say they can't do anything about the judges. The general public either believes this or is comfortable knowing it will never change and therefore there is no expectation from any organization.

NOLA42 · 10-11-10, 11:18 AM

definitely thought JZ won