Who Likes Akiyama To Catch Bisping's Chin?

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  • koscheckbaby
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    • 04-05-10
    • 1314

    #1
    Who Likes Akiyama To Catch Bisping's Chin?
    It seems like a time to fade the Brits. LoL. Both Pearson and Osipczak have screwed many of us here. Normally, I just thought this fight was a no bet, since Bisping fights like a pussy and probably will avoid the big hands of Akiyama. But I dunno, if Cole Miller can catch Pearson, Akiyama can certainly put Bisping out.
  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #2
    If I can get Bisping by decision at +200 or better Im taking that!
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    • KCJMAC
      SBR High Roller
      • 08-03-10
      • 133

      #3
      I've got several units on Akiyama at +200. I think Akiyama will win at least 50% of the time given that:

      * He's training with Greg Jackson, so I expect his game plan and conditioning to be much improved.
      * As a result of the point above, I don't think Bisping will be able to take him down to ground and pound (his preferred path to victory)
      * Akiyama will strike harder than Bisping, and although I don't think he willl knock Bisping out, he will knock him down. That will be touch for Bisping to overcome in the judges' eyes, especially with no takedowns.
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #4
        Originally posted by KCJMAC
        I've got several units on Akiyama at +200. I think Akiyama will win at least 50% of the time given that:

        * He's training with Greg Jackson, so I expect his game plan and conditioning to be much improved.
        * As a result of the point above, I don't think Bisping will be able to take him down to ground and pound (his preferred path to victory)
        * Akiyama will strike harder than Bisping, and although I don't think he willl knock Bisping out, he will knock him down. That will be touch for Bisping to overcome in the judges' eyes, especially with no takedowns.
        Plus, Akiyama's history of greasing combined with the Jackson MMA's penchant for greasing = very slippery night for the Count!
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        • cooldavid3169
          SBR Hustler
          • 06-19-10
          • 92

          #5
          Originally posted by koscheckbaby
          It seems like a time to fade the Brits. LoL. Both Pearson and Osipczak have screwed many of us here. Normally, I just thought this fight was a no bet, since Bisping fights like a pussy and probably will avoid the big hands of Akiyama. But I dunno, if Cole Miller can catch Pearson, Akiyama can certainly put Bisping out.
          I hope so to shut Bisping's big mouth up.
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          • sundin4prez
            SBR MVP
            • 03-09-10
            • 1970

            #6
            i dont think he'll catch bisping but i think he'll easily win a dec.

            the only tool that bisping has is he jab... run... jab jab.. rinse and repeat..
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            • The HOFF
              SBR MVP
              • 07-02-08
              • 4847

              #7
              Originally posted by KCJMAC
              * He's training with Greg Jackson, so I expect his game plan and conditioning to be much improved.
              I already played Akiyama at +200, but reading this makes me want to put down more. Akiyama has more power and I can see Bisping getting tossed like a rag doll with his judo throws.
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563

                #8
                Latest Bisping video blog: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRHdI...ayer_embedded#!

                Kongo clowning around tryin to shave everybody's hair off! Then mid-way through the mandatory 1 minute footage of Bisping dominating an average sparring partner and knocking him down is shown! Makes me laugh, at least he hasnt said that he's going to KO Akiyama yet.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #9
                  Originally posted by The HOFF
                  I already played Akiyama at +200, but reading this makes me want to put down more. Akiyama has more power and I can see Bisping getting tossed like a rag doll with his judo throws.
                  Bisping has flown in some specialist Judo players for his camp and he is very good at getting up from his back already, if Akiyama does get him down I dont expect that he'll be able to keep Bisping there for long. However, it will score him points nonetheless and lessen the time that is available for Bisping to be standing and back pedalling his way to a decision! Still havnt decided whether I'll be doing a Bisping by decision play on its own, or Bisping by decision and Akiyama to win straddle, or just a prop for the fight to go to decision. Depends on value as well.
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                  • Vrakas
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-27-10
                    • 627

                    #10
                    the fight will be close but i believe that bisping the count should win it.
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                    • koscheckbaby
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-05-10
                      • 1314

                      #11
                      Personally, I do believe Bisping will utilize his size to tire out Akiyama, who has a questionable gastank. Even if Bisping gets thrown, all it will do is lead to Akiyama gassing through all that effort for nothing. Bisping will pop right back up. And from the point Akiyama slows, the fight will be all Bisping's, since his strength is cardio. But I do see value in Akiyama at +200. Basically, we're looking at a pillowfisted fighter as the favorite going against a heavy-handed, good chinned opponent. Bisping survived against Leben the first time, but he did get tagged on the chin a few times and had his struggles. Now, his chin might be weaker due to the Hendo bomb.
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                      • Kaladarus
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-11-09
                        • 1876

                        #12
                        I like Bisping by decision here. He has good takedown defense and good cardio. Akiyama's cardio is questionable. Bisping's style of dancing around, coming in and out should counter Akiyama and tire him out.
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                        • koscheckbaby
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                          • 04-05-10
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kaladarus
                          I like Bisping by decision here. He has good takedown defense and good cardio. Akiyama's cardio is questionable. Bisping's style of dancing around, coming in and out should counter Akiyama and tire him out.
                          The thing that concerns me about the cardio factor is Bisping maybe finishing. People have called me crazy for that, since Bisping is certainly a decision machine when he faces good fighters. But gassing against someone that is still fresh is awfully dangerous. Although Kang is a quitter, Bisping did finish him because he gassed. Akiyama tapped to a triangle that wasn't even locked in properly last fight. Gassing is a bitch.
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                          • Kaladarus
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                            • 11-11-09
                            • 1876

                            #14
                            Originally posted by koscheckbaby
                            The thing that concerns me about the cardio factor is Bisping maybe finishing. People have called me crazy for that, since Bisping is certainly a decision machine when he faces good fighters. But gassing against someone that is still fresh is awfully dangerous. Although Kang is a quitter, Bisping did finish him because he gassed. Akiyama tapped to a triangle that wasn't even locked in properly last fight. Gassing is a bitch.

                            You might be right about that. Decision might not be worth a big play, but Bisping at -220 right now seems like a little too much. Probably going to either be a small play on decision or wait and see if the line moves around. I would take Bisping just to win for a decent size play at probably around -160 or maybe even -170.
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                            • rocky mattioli
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-26-10
                              • 1263

                              #15
                              matt hamill shot me a text indicating he likes bisping in the u.k......
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                              • playa420
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 03-09-08
                                • 881

                                #16
                                Theres alot of value in Akiyama +200. He has good standup and a strong judo backround, and I could see him getting a decision win.The fact that the fights in the UK could make a difference with the judges though.
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                                • jin2daj
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-01-09
                                  • 816

                                  #17
                                  i like akiyama +200 too
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                                  • Fiasco01
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 01-18-10
                                    • 325

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                                    matt hamill shot me a text indicating he likes bisping in the u.k......
                                    Ouch. But a good point nonetheless.
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                                    • RollPlayer
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-26-10
                                      • 779

                                      #19
                                      I would like Akiyama at +200 except for his gas tank. No play for me
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                                      • Vaughany
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by KCJMAC
                                        I've got several units on Akiyama at +200. I think Akiyama will win at least 50% of the time given that:

                                        * He's training with Greg Jackson, so I expect his game plan and conditioning to be much improved.
                                        * As a result of the point above, I don't think Bisping will be able to take him down to ground and pound (his preferred path to victory)
                                        * Akiyama will strike harder than Bisping, and although I don't think he willl knock Bisping out, he will knock him down. That will be touch for Bisping to overcome in the judges' eyes, especially with no takedowns.
                                        Im not convinced training with Greg Jackson is going to make a huge difference....does he even speak any English? Also Im not sure ground and pound is Bisping's preferred path to vicotory...back pedalling his way to a decision seems to be his preferred route!
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                                        • KCJMAC
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 08-03-10
                                          • 133

                                          #21
                                          My thought was that Akiyama's main weaknesses are cardio & gameplanning, and Jackson's camp could help with both. Looking forward to seeing if he improves.
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                                          • Shagdogy
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-16-10
                                            • 3564

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by koscheckbaby
                                            It seems like a time to fade the Brits. LoL. Both Pearson and Osipczak have screwed many of us here. Normally, I just thought this fight was a no bet, since Bisping fights like a pussy and probably will avoid the big hands of Akiyama. But I dunno, if Cole Miller can catch Pearson, Akiyama can certainly put Bisping out.
                                            Good point. I was burned by both those guys. However, neither in the UK. Osipczak maybe wins that decision at home. It wouldn't have been any worse than Bisping over Hamill. In my mind this fight goes one of two ways. Bisping by decision, or Akiyama TKO. Akiyama has only gone to decision once (v. Belcher) and though he got the nod I had Belcher winning that fight. I have to believe Akiyama knows a TKO is his only real shot in this fight. If he doesn't catch Bisping before halfway through the 2nd, then he will probably be gassed from throwing bombs and will have to zombie walk himself to a decision loss. My only fear (as shared by a few others) is if he gasses too much and gets finished.

                                            For now I like Bisping decision/Akiyama TKO straddle. Bisping will be too scared of the TKO to take the kind of chances he needs to finish. Especially if he's dancing to a decision vs. a slow, tired Akiyama. A small play on a prop for Akiyama to get DQ'd would probably cash real nice if you can find it. He's got dry skin and likes to lotion up big time just before fights.
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                                            • LearningTree
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 08-02-10
                                              • 216

                                              #23
                                              I like Akiyama at the odds right now.
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                                              • GoldenYAK
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 08-30-10
                                                • 707

                                                #24
                                                Be carefull with this card. Whenever fights are in the UK the fans immediately start too boo when the fight hits the ground and if the ref is a fagget he will stand them up after 5 seconds. This is how a lot of brit fighter have beat superior grapplers/fighters in the past. This gives a huge advantage to strikers(brits) See Riddle v Osipsack.

                                                It really sucks how much refing and judging has become a part of capping mma.
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                                                • vassman86
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                                                  • 03-11-08
                                                  • 1042

                                                  #25
                                                  I'd love to see Bisping get KO'd again. He's got the best screw face when he gets KO'd
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                                                  • BobbyXxX
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 09-12-10
                                                    • 96

                                                    #26
                                                    I like Bispins quality of opponents better than aki's and maybe the jackson camp turns him around and into the supposed japanamachine that we still havent seen
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                                                    • GoldRush7
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-27-09
                                                      • 2014

                                                      #27
                                                      I would love to see it happen but do not think it will
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                                                      • Vaughany
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                        • 45563

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BobbyXxX
                                                        I like Bispins quality of opponents better than aki's and maybe the jackson camp turns him around and into the supposed japanamachine that we still havent seen
                                                        Not sure we'll see much of a change, the fact that Akiyama can't speak English and Greg Jackson, Trevor "Creepy" Wittman, etc... cant speak Japanese isn't going to help!
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