SHARK Fights 13 Sept 11

playa420 · 09-09-10, 06:44 PM

decent card, but definitely not ppv worthy

KCJMAC · 09-09-10, 07:20 PM

Agreed on Jardine. People are talking about him like he is a washed up can.

Who does Prangley have a recent win over who is as good as the guys Jardine lost to?

Prangley beat a 9-6 guy last year, a guy who was 43-46, a guy who was 13-6, and a guy who was 16-14. None of those guys have fought in top promotions. And if they had, their records would be even worse.

THE_LOCKSMITH · 09-10-10, 11:59 AM

yea, doubt many people will pay for this PPV, hopefully there will be a good stream

ufcmma36 · 09-10-10, 12:11 PM

Prangley only has 4 tko/kos in his career. I know jardines chin is more than suspect but I doubt trevor picks up his 5th

Educ8d Degener8 · 09-10-10, 02:42 PM

I'm feeling really squarish on any leans I may have on this card...

Jardine over Prangley: The disparity in the level of talent they have faced respectively is worlds apart. Only fight I recently recall of Prangley's was his bout with Amoussou where iirc, he wasn't doing too well in the stand up and went for a takedown... don't think that'll work on Jardine, as Keith's TDD is pretty solid. Though, I suppose Jardine isn't exactly a beast standing either, so may Prangley could outpoint a decision? Probably a no-play for me. But I do like a hungry Jardine in this spot. Tough call.

Daley over Masvidal: Watched a bit of tape on Masvidal and didn't see any noteworthy grappling which would be his best shot against Daley... Plus Daley should have a considerable size advantage here. So if Masvidal chooses to bang this one out, I can see him being put to sleep. Because although Daley is a classless turd, his stand-up is top notch.

Sokoudjou over Alexander: Not even gonna bother typing about this one. ;p If the line moves lower, I may bite, and am highly considering it as parlay material with and NFL play.

Darabedyan over Straus: I must say I'm intrigued by Darabedyan in this spot. Coming off of two disappointing losses in a row (in which he was a heavy fav), he'll be hungry for a W as well. His striking is SOLID (see fight vs Razor Rob) and he will shoot, and go for subs; but he apparently has a propensity for getting armbar'd ;p I only managed to find one tape on Straus. His striking looked pretty average, but it was kinda old footage (maybe 2 years). Straus did have a real slick trip takedown though, so I'd like to find more footage on him. Although Darabedyan has a judo background and trains in the Glendale circuit out here that includes Karo and his peeps, so I would hope his judo would be pretty solid. If I can find more tape on Straus, I'd really like to cap this fight.

Only dog on my radar is Saffiedine.

The HOFF · 09-10-10, 07:38 PM

The full weigh-in results included:

MAIN CARD

Trevor Prangley (202.75) vs. Keith Jardine (204.5)
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (204.75) vs. Houston Alexander (202.25)
Paul Daley (171.75) vs. Jorge Masvidal (168.75)+
Danillo Villefort (184.5) vs. Joey Villasanor (185.5)
Brock Larson (170.75) vs. Tarec Saffiedine (169.75)

PRELIMINARY CARD

Champ Douglas Evans (144.25) vs. Ronnie Mann (144.75)
Paul Bradley (170.5) vs. Johnny Reese (169.25)
Aaron Rosa (241.75) vs. Devin Cole (233.25)
Eric Davila (176.5) vs. Pete Spratt (170.25)*
Karen Darabedyan (155.75) vs. Daniel Straus (152.75)

+ - Daley didn't make weight on first attempt and missed again on second attempt; 10 percent of purse goes to Masvidal
* - Fight originally slated for the welterweight division, but prior to weigh-ins, the fighters agreed to a catchweight bout (no fines disclosed)

snake11eyes · 09-10-10, 07:41 PM

Daley being the classless turd that he is missed weight. Came back an hour later an only dropped 1/4 pound. You would think now that he is being watched closely after that koscheck fiasco he could get this right. Some people never learn.

Shane · 09-10-10, 10:23 PM

Agreed. Daley is one of the few guys in this sport that I have little to no respect for.

Vaughany · 09-11-10, 03:29 AM

Combination of Daley sucker punching Koscheck, constantly missing weight and now mouthing off about Frankie Edgar's style has made me lose all respect for him and I'm English. Worst part is that he tries to make out he's some sort of modern-age Japanese Samurai Warrior yet all he shows is disrespect and no honour...quite ironic!

koscheckbaby · 09-11-10, 07:11 AM

I've been pretty adement that this matchup favors Jardine. But I must admit, the temptation to bet against Jardine's chin is getting to me. Prangley has a couple KOs in his career.

sundin4prez · 09-11-10, 07:50 AM

just placed my bets, prnagley,larson,Villasenor and spratt

spargament · 09-11-10, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by KCJMAC

Definitely agree with this reasoning. Prangley doesn't have heavier hands than Hamill, Rampage, & Liddell. Those guys didn't knock Jardine out in a combined 45 minutes.

Prangley has most of his wins by submission (9), and Jardine has never been submitted in 24 pro fights.

I've got Jardine at -195, and I expect him to win at least 75-80% of the time.

The Jardine that didn't get KO'd by those guys is not the same guy thiago Silva put to sleep

Educ8d Degener8 · 09-11-10, 08:04 PM

Thank god i stayed away from a Darabedyan play...

That's 3 fights in a row he has lost as a -300 or higher favorite... yikes.

illmatick · 09-11-10, 08:23 PM

anyone have a GOOD stream?

sherdog's isn't working for me

Educ8d Degener8 · 09-11-10, 08:28 PM

Sketchy stream info coming your way homie...

snake11eyes · 09-11-10, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

anyone have a GOOD stream?

sherdog's isn't working for me

Try this one it works o.k. I can't post a link because I dont watch stream from this laptop. I copied from my other computer.

snake11eyes · 09-11-10, 09:22 PM

Oh I guess if you type it in the forum turns it into a link. Let me know if it works i found a couple other ones too.

illmatick · 09-11-10, 09:25 PM

thanks snake, that one's working a little better than sopcast

snake11eyes · 09-11-10, 09:31 PM

no problem, it should get a little better the longer you watch it.

illmatick · 09-11-10, 09:51 PM

The Tarec fight went just as planned

Educ8d Degener8 · 09-11-10, 09:54 PM

Nice one Ill. Will be rooting for Villefort on your behalf...

edit: and thanks for the link Snake...

illmatick · 09-11-10, 10:03 PM

FOK, I missed most of the first round..who won the round?

snake11eyes · 09-11-10, 10:06 PM

Villefort got takedown stayed there most of the round. Not much action but he won the round for sure.

snake11eyes · 09-11-10, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

The Tarec fight went just as planned

I should have followed you on this one. I had to go with Larson. Another round for Villefort replay of the first round.

koscheckbaby · 09-11-10, 10:17 PM

Larson and Villasenor didn't even try. Their opponents looked like garbage, yet won clear 30-27 decisions. I wonder if the fix was in. Two straight fighters showing zero effort or heart, while their opponents weren't much better.

Terrible PPV so far.

Educ8d Degener8 · 09-11-10, 10:18 PM

And boom goes the dynamite...

illmatick · 09-11-10, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

Larson and Villasenor didn't even try. Their opponents looked like garbage, yet won clear 30-27 decisions. I wonder if the fix was in. Two straight fighters showing zero effort or heart, while their opponents weren't much better.

Terrible PPV so far.

don't be silly.

snake11eyes · 09-11-10, 10:21 PM

No problem E. Now I got my money back plus a little from that bum Larson and I have Villefort leading off in two nice parlays. Still a long way to go, but it's a nice start.

koscheckbaby · 09-11-10, 10:22 PM

I was initially entertained by Bas and Frye, but neither one has mentioned the complete lack of effort on the past two fighters parts. Clearly, they as fighters have to think something was fishey. They did address Larson was likely sick or something because all he did was back against the cage, but Villasenor usually goes for broke. He didn't throw anything with bad intentions the entire fight. Hell, he went for a takedown in the 3rd down 2 rounds. I doubt an investigation will be made, but it should.

koscheckbaby · 09-11-10, 10:25 PM

I smelll fix in the last two fights. But with this one, I don't think Daley can afford a loss here, so this should be legit.

koscheckbaby · 09-11-10, 10:44 PM

Masvidal shows zero effort at the end when he could have won as well. What the hell is with his card? All the losers have shown zero heart. The winners haven't legitimately earned a single victory yet.

Educ8d Degener8 · 09-11-10, 10:47 PM

Daley may have just beat a LW, but he is one of the most overrated fighters out there.

koscheckbaby · 09-11-10, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

Daley may have just beat a LW, but he is one of the most overrated fighters out there.

Absolutely. He's just hype because he hits hard. His takedown defense was worse than ever tonight and that's saying something(he gave Kos and Shields more resistance than Masvidal leading with his head down). He usually gets outstruck until he lands that left as well. Only a year ago, Nick Thompson of all people outstruck him.

If you rematched Kampmann and Daley, Kampmann would tool him on the floor.

koscheckbaby · 09-11-10, 10:56 PM

I wish Sokoudjou would quit pretending in pre fight interviews. He's going straight for the takedown. How can you not when you're fighting Houston "The Turtle" Alexander.

Educ8d Degener8 · 09-11-10, 11:10 PM

Wow... unreal.

I'm glad they allowed the late punches.

Soku should hang up the 5 oz gloves.