mixed martial arts rules
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It was pretty embarrassing.
With that being said, you take a 1 discipline fighter (any boxer) and they become a turtle on their backs when taken down.Comment -
throw toney in a mma ring, couture wins. throw couture in a boxer ring, toney wins. it was pretty obvious what was going to happen...
i still perfer watching a boxing match anyday though...Comment -
That Toney fight was a joke......He was just wanting a big pay day is all.Comment -
that was patheticComment -
The boxer in the MMA cage always has a small chance (See Ray Mercer KO-ing Silvia) however, an MMA fighter has NO chance in a boxing ring. The odds of him winning really are totally zero.Comment -
James Toney made between 750K and 1 million for the spectacle. I'm not sure what Couture made, the rest of the fighters combined made just over 1 million.
It looks like UFC made money on this garbage... anyone who paid to see a punch drunk Toney is a fool. Toney made more from this than he could off boxing by this point in his career because boxing fans wouldn't pay to watch him get his brains further scrambled. That said, for a PPV event it's surprising how little UFC fighters make. For a boxing PPV with a 3 million dollar live gate the fighters would make significantly more money.Comment -
its sad that toney made all that money for 3 mins of getting his ass kicked but he sold this ppv alone.... also your forgetting that couture and penn get ppv% so depending on the numbers they probably made more then toney....
also the reason mma fighter get payed litle compared to boxing is that the brand "ufc" sells ppv over individuals... more people know the ufc brand then anything else which means ufc can pay what they want, where else are the fighters going to go?Comment -
UFC becoming watered down
I would never spend a dime to watch it.Comment -
waste of moneyComment -
WEC is always hiringComment -
If Couture and Toney Boxed, Toney would have won.Comment -
toney isn't even an elite boxer , the only way a boxer would have a chance is if they have
great quickness like a young ali , or incredible power like a young foreman , other than that it just a matter of avoiding one punch for the ufc fighter and put the boxer on his backComment -
And don't forget that Toney currently holds a title in boxing. You want to talk about the ufc being watered down but how sad is it that Toney now represents what a heavyweight champion is in boxing.Comment -
Toney's IBA boxing "title" is about as prestigious as a little league baseball trophy. He's not ranked by any of the major alphabet organizations and the boxrec mathematical ranking system, which has a systemic bias toward veterans who have fought tough competition (like Toney has), doesn't even rank Toney in the top 50 of the heavyweight division (which is one of the weaker divisions in the sport). Nobody in the boxing world, James Toney included, thinks that he's at all relevant.
The only thing that's sad about Toney and boxing is that he didn't retire in 2005 or earlier with his mental faculties intact.Comment -
The only thing more embarrassing for him than that fight is that he talks like he has a mouth full of marbles...Comment -
It's sad that Dana White is such a piece of human garbage that he let a brain damaged fighter into the octagon, but I don't find it sad that Toney made that money. It's his last shot at making a good payday and if he didn't make that money it just would have gone into the UFC's pocket. I'm also not fogetting about PPV bonuses, or the fact that all the fighters will have to pay high taxes due to the location of the card.
The reason UFC pays less is because they have very little competition from other bigtime promoters. As you pretty much say yourself, the laborers have noplace else to go. Boxers will make more than UFC fighters on a PPV that brings in less money because the competition between the large number of bigtime promoters forces them to pay out.
Boxing is loaded with organizational problems, but the salaries of bigtime boxers dwarf the salaries of (often bigger) stars in MMA.Comment -
Toney's not even in the top 50?
I definitely did not know that haComment -
ya
its awesomeComment -
Do we really need another Toney thread!Comment -
He is an elite boxer in terms of his technical skills, he's a bonafide master counterpuncher and one of the toughest men to ever step in the ring. But yes he is past it physically and no matter how good you are with your hands, you need to be in shape and properly cross train if you want to have success in the cage.
Kermit Cintron would be a great choice to enter MMA, he's a former world champ boxer and he wrestled in college. He would have been a much better canidate than Toney."Real fight don't start till round 13, in round thriteen ya asshole locks up, ya balls get tight, and ya don't wanna go another second, that's when the real fight starts"- Mike MccalumComment -
what about the people in the crowd chanting "ufc"Comment -
He really just showed us all, that boxers cant really make the transition too the uFC its just a totally differnt game.Comment -
should of had toney fight kimboComment
