youshouldn't be to hold a guy for three rounds,no offense at all,just stalling, that terrible, that is not good for mma,thats not fighting, that's just as bad as when anderson silva was clowning and running around for five rounds against demian maia, sets a bad precedent,mma is gona be boring as shhhhiiitt
what nik lenz did was terrible
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phillybadboySBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-09
- 9383
#1what nik lenz did was terribleTags: None -
spurginobiliSBR MVP
- 05-09-09
- 3065
#2I had Andre Winner so I didn't like it either, but Winner should have known that that is all Lentz had and used better takedown defense.
We've all seen aggressive takedown defense when a wrestler is 'stuffed' and kept at distance.
I agree with you though, boring and unimaginative as hell.
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phillybadboySBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-09
- 9383
#3all i'm saying is how are you gona be allowed to grab and hold a guy for three full rounds and do nothing else, there should be a breakig up rule, like the standing you up rule if you're not busy enough on the ground, i just think its terrible for mma, it's like boxers who don't throw no punches, just get in the ring and stare at each for twelve roundsOriginally posted by spurginobiliI had Andre Winner so I didn't like it either, but Winner should have known that that is all Lentz had and used better takedown defense. We've all seen aggressive takedown defense when a wrestler is 'stuffed' and kept at distance. I agree with you though, boring and unimaginative as hell.
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KaladarusSBR MVP
- 11-11-09
- 1876
#4I thought Winner had the first 2 rounds. People say Lentz imposed his will, but his will was to take Winner down and Winner's will was to keep it standing. In my opinion Winner imposed his will for the majority of the first 2 rounds.Comment -
phillybadboySBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-09
- 9383
#5i felt he wasn't effective mostly stalling, didn''t do enough damege to win the fightOriginally posted by KaladarusI thought Winner had the first 2 rounds. People say Lentz imposed his will, but his will was to take Winner down and Winner's will was to keep it standing. In my opinion Winner imposed his will for the majority of the first 2 rounds.Comment -
phillybadboySBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-09
- 9383
#6i also feltAndre Winner won the first two rounds because he did more damageOriginally posted by KaladarusI thought Winner had the first 2 rounds. People say Lentz imposed his will, but his will was to take Winner down and Winner's will was to keep it standing. In my opinion Winner imposed his will for the majority of the first 2 rounds.Comment -
ddream1SBR Wise Guy
- 02-18-10
- 695
#7lentz won, boring and ugly but he won. thats his discipline and it works. its what pays his bills and what he is great at, winner needed to stuff them and or active a guard. and lentz was to avoid getting his head ripped off and i think he managed that by being on top and in controlComment -
phillybadboySBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-09
- 9383
#8but it's not just about control, its about effective aggression, doing damage, submission atempts, strikes, things like that, in boxing you can make a guy miss all you want but if the other guy is landing a few more punches than you ,you lose, mma would be unwatcheble if everyone fought like Nik LentzOriginally posted by ddream1lentz won, boring and ugly but he won. thats his discipline and it works. its what pays his bills and what he is great at, winner needed to stuff them and or active a guard. and lentz was to avoid getting his head ripped off and i think he managed that by being on top and in controlComment -
sundin4prezSBR MVP
- 03-09-10
- 1970
#9its the name of the game in american mma..... its shit like this why i enjoy japanese mma....judges need to be trianed that a round is not won by sin gle takedownsComment -
phillybadboySBR Hall of Famer
- 12-11-09
- 9383
#10hope you had a positive nightOriginally posted by sundin4prezits the name of the game in american mma..... its shit like this why i enjoy japanese mma....judges need to be trianed that a round is not won by sin gle takedownsComment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#11Winner won first round, Slight edge to Lentz in second round, then the third round was definite Lentz and thts what gave him the win, had Winner down and had his back. But like u say was very frustrating and not entertaining, but then again, Winner should of used his footwork more and circled. Compare his footwork to Frankie Edgars for instance...Franky's is just on a whole different level to most lightweights, do u think Lentz would be able to do the same stalling hug against the cage against Edgar...no way!Comment -
sundin4prezSBR MVP
- 03-09-10
- 1970
#12i did, and overall since the king mo vs mousassi fight i have been betting elite wrestlers non stop.... and for one time in my life im + moneyOriginally posted by phillybadboyhope you had a positive nightComment
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