BJ Penn "I just watched the fight between me and Frankie Edgar"

squallsquall · 07-01-10, 04:22 AM

With decent odds, BJ is probably a good bet. Problem is he's not consistent.

cky312 · 07-01-10, 04:47 AM

I think I'll still take BJ 10 times out of 10 at these odds.

Vaughany · 07-01-10, 07:05 AM

Is he tryin to hype the fight up or what! How can anybody dislike Frankie Edgar...dude is pure class! Absolute BS sayin tht he was tryin to get out of fighting BJ by asking for Maynard! Of course Edgar would want to fight Maynard as he is the last dude to beat him! On the flipside if Frankie is afraid to fight someone who he knows might beat him (which is wot BJ is implying) why would Frankie be ducking BJ (who he has beaten) and wanting to fight someone who he has not beaten! I hope Frankie dominates BJ again!

sundin4prez · 07-01-10, 07:47 AM

i have to agree with mr. penn........ no way edgar won all 5 rounds.... i honestly think judges now adays need training.... you hear all to much these days on giving bogus decisions....

Shagdogy · 07-01-10, 07:55 AM

That fight was waaaayy too close to be scored the way it was. I think the judges gave Edgar a lot of credit for his movement and looking busy. Granted BJ did not look himself, and it's not the worst decision I've ever seen (Hamill v. Bisping anyone?). I do happen to feel like the rest of you here and think that BJ will wreck Edgar in the rematch. Rear-naked in the 2nd round.

Straight Cash · 07-01-10, 09:03 AM

I think BJ will win, but I think Edgar clearly won their last fight.

Kaladarus · 07-01-10, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Is he tryin to hype the fight up or what! How can anybody dislike Frankie Edgar...dude is pure class! Absolute BS sayin tht he was tryin to get out of fighting BJ by asking for Maynard! Of course Edgar would want to fight Maynard as he is the last dude to beat him! On the flipside if Frankie is afraid to fight someone who he knows might beat him (which is wot BJ is implying) why would Frankie be ducking BJ (who he has beaten) and wanting to fight someone who he has not beaten! I hope Frankie dominates BJ again!

I completely agree with you. It's not really fair to call Frankie out like that. BJ wasn't the one that gave him the shot, the UFC did. Also Frankie signed for the rematch. He had no idea they wanted to give BJ an immediate rematch when he was talking. Calling out Maynard was just a way of finding out if he can beat everyone in the division.

Vrakas · 07-01-10, 10:20 AM

Edgar is too fast for penn.this fight will be a very close again.may the best little guy win.

ThisGuy · 07-01-10, 10:57 AM

BJ schools him minus the sluggishness

GoldRush7 · 07-01-10, 11:13 AM

BJ will own. There's a reason edgar was trying to duck him on the rematch... he knows he's gonna get beat

36mafia · 07-01-10, 03:27 PM

going big on bj

not gonna parlay him with every other pick though. man that was a mistake

Shagdogy · 07-01-10, 03:31 PM

I'm a huge Penn fan, but I can't hate on Edgar. Doubt he was ducking Penn when he mentioned Maynard, just trying to avenge a loss. I think Edgar fought hard and used the best strategy for himself. BJ is making sure he gets up for this fight. He'll do like he did with Pulver and hug him after and invite him to Hawaii to train. He will, however, demolish Frankie this time around.

bogbat · 07-01-10, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Is he tryin to hype the fight up or what! How can anybody dislike Frankie Edgar...dude is pure class! Absolute BS sayin tht he was tryin to get out of fighting BJ by asking for Maynard! Of course Edgar would want to fight Maynard as he is the last dude to beat him! On the flipside if Frankie is afraid to fight someone who he knows might beat him (which is wot BJ is implying) why would Frankie be ducking BJ (who he has beaten) and wanting to fight someone who he has not beaten! I hope Frankie dominates BJ again!

Anyone who knows how to properly score MMA gave 3 out of the 5 rounds to BJ, which is why BJ deserves an immediate rematch.

vassman86 · 07-01-10, 07:38 PM

Penn is good when he's motivated. It'll be interesting to see what kind of aggression he brings into the rematch.

rossta4i · 07-01-10, 07:50 PM

I have every reason that BJ had no motivation going into the last fight. Or maybe UFC wanted him to lose the fight to get more money on the next one.

clarkd32 · 07-01-10, 10:24 PM

if you like edgar to win wouldn't it be a better bet to find a prop 'edgar by decision'?

JuicedUp · 07-01-10, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by clarkd32

if you like edgar to win wouldn't it be a better bet to find a prop 'edgar by decision'?

No doubt, much better idea to go with Edgar by DEC if you are leaning his way. No way he finishes Penn by dancing around in circles playing patty cake again.

Vaughany · 07-02-10, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by bogbat

Anyone who knows how to properly score MMA gave 3 out of the 5 rounds to BJ, which is why BJ deserves an immediate rematch.

There's no doubt that he deserves a rematch straight away and he will probably win. However, Edgar never said that he didnt want to defend against BJ. Easy straddle here with Penn to win and Edgar to win by decision. Or even Penn by submission and Edgar to win by decision to get a greater margin but more riskier.

squallsquall · 07-02-10, 03:55 AM

Let's just hope BJ doesn't get too cocky in the pre-fight talk... "to the death, George!"

Vaughany · 07-02-10, 07:08 AM

"Frankie Edgar...YOU'RE DEAD!"

sundin4prez · 07-02-10, 07:17 AM

not a terrably intresting fight but i will probably will watch it and i expect penn to jab edgar to death...

Shagdogy · 07-02-10, 08:24 AM

Good call on the Edgar by decision prop. He will not finish BJ, so if you think he's gonna take it then put your money on by decision. I have to believe that BJ's goal is to finish Edgar here and leave no doubt. He doesn't do well with the judges.

As for motivation in the last fight... at +600, Edgar was probably the biggest dog BJ has faced. Hilo, Hawaii is not the richest place and has some parts where people are struggling. Tell all your people to put a bunch on Edgar and you're a hometown hero... as long as you get that rematch and can make it all right by whooping his ass. I don't believe this necessarily, but it's not the most unbelievable scenario.

36mafia · 07-02-10, 11:32 AM

the hawaiians i know are pridefull and taking a dive is one of the most shameful things a person can do

but bj use to do H so

bogbat · 07-02-10, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Good call on the Edgar by decision prop. He will not finish BJ, so if you think he's gonna take it then put your money on by decision. I have to believe that BJ's goal is to finish Edgar here and leave no doubt. He doesn't do well with the judges. As for motivation in the last fight... at +600, Edgar was probably the biggest dog BJ has faced. Hilo, Hawaii is not the richest place and has some parts where people are struggling. Tell all your people to put a bunch on Edgar and you're a hometown hero... as long as you get that rematch and can make it all right by whooping his ass. I don't believe this necessarily, but it's not the most unbelievable scenario.

Did you even watch the fight? BJ did not throw it, he actually won it on pretty much everyone but the judges score cards.

Vrakas · 07-02-10, 05:06 PM

I don't think Penn will put Edgar away. If Penn comes with any sort of game plan, he should take this quite easily.

Shagdogy · 07-03-10, 12:52 AM

Bogbat... I watched it. I thought he won 3 rounds as well. Like I said in my post, I don't believe that he threw it, but it's not the craziest thought ever. With MMA's popularity skyrocketing and taking over boxing as the number 1 fighting sport, we'd all be pretty naive to think that the corruption that boxing has will just magically stay out of MMA. I love the sport and I honestly don't believe this kind of thing is going on at the highest level at all... yet. I hope it never does, but i'm skeptical. Even aside from the corruption you're starting to see how guys like Fedor can channel the boxing culture and let his management run around claiming he's the best ever while ducking every formidable opponent.

Back to BJ though... no matter what the story is from their first fight, BJ is out to finish Edgar this time around. No questions. And I think he'll do it. 2nd round.

bogbat · 07-03-10, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Bogbat... I watched it. I thought he won 3 rounds as well. Like I said in my post, I don't believe that he threw it, but it's not the craziest thought ever. With MMA's popularity skyrocketing and taking over boxing as the number 1 fighting sport, we'd all be pretty naive to think that the corruption that boxing has will just magically stay out of MMA. I love the sport and I honestly don't believe this kind of thing is going on at the highest level at all... yet. I hope it never does, but i'm skeptical. Even aside from the corruption you're starting to see how guys like Fedor can channel the boxing culture and let his management run around claiming he's the best ever while ducking every formidable opponent. Back to BJ though... no matter what the story is from their first fight, BJ is out to finish Edgar this time around. No questions. And I think he'll do it. 2nd round.

Solid points.

ANGRYBLACK · 07-03-10, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by Straight Cash

I think BJ will win, but I think Edgar clearly won their last fight.

Yessir...