What's everyone's opinion on this rematch? Their first fight was very good. Since then, they've both struggled. I'm not sure what weight this fight is at, but can re-post later. Also, does anyone have a link for a site that will tell keep track of how the odds move? What did this line open at? Currently on Bodog it's -450 for Marquez and +300 for Diaz.
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Marquez will win again, it's really a pointless fight as the first fight was a decisive victory for JMM. I've already began using JMM -450 in some parlays with baseball/mma picks.
There also is great value in betting on the under, I don't see this fight going the distance, in fact JMM will probably finish him faster this time around."Real fight don't start till round 13, in round thriteen ya asshole locks up, ya balls get tight, and ya don't wanna go another second, that's when the real fight starts"- Mike MccalumComment -
Why do you think this, HandJuice? Did Diaz look like total crap against Paulie the second time around? JMM sure didn't help his body much trying to get as big as possible for floyd. I wonder if he'll be weakened by this. He's an old fighter by now and not getting any younger, he's 37, right? That's ancient, especially at lower weights.Comment -
Diaz hasn't looked that good lately, and i recall him actually getting hurt by feather fisted mallignaggi in their second fight which tells me that his chin might have weakened. If Diaz would have won his last to fights in impressive fashion than I would give him a serious chance at winning but he didn't so i have to go with Marquez ftw."Real fight don't start till round 13, in round thriteen ya asshole locks up, ya balls get tight, and ya don't wanna go another second, that's when the real fight starts"- Mike MccalumComment -
Unfortunately I missed the rematch with Paulie. I didn't think he looked bad in the first fight, and based on that would give him a good chance in this JMM rematch. But was his chin really dented by Paulie? I'm not sure I can ever believe that, but if it's true, Ian is right and I wouldn't bet on Diaz against *anyone* Paulie is the weakest puncher in all of boxing with those china hands, lolComment -
diaz should win this timeComment -
agree diazComment -
Check out the 1:00 minute mark. Malignaggin lands an uppercut and it hurts Diaz.
If feather fisted Malignaggi can hurt Diaz like that, than another fight with Marquez will get him KTFO."Real fight don't start till round 13, in round thriteen ya asshole locks up, ya balls get tight, and ya don't wanna go another second, that's when the real fight starts"- Mike MccalumComment -
To be more clear, here are the problems I saw with Diaz in the Malignaggi fight:
1) Malignaggi thoroughly outboxed him
2) As usual, Diaz bled all over himself
3) Light hitting Malignaggi staggered Diaz a few times. Malignaggi refused to follow up on these exchanges, choosing instead to sit back and win the round, but a more aggressive fighter could have probably KOd him.Comment -
Even though I'm not too thrilled about the main event, this undercard is absolutely stacked... I might even buy tickets for it because of the quality of the undercard. Here's a link to the full card as listed on boxrec.Comment -
you can count on uppercuts from marquez. unless marquez gets old overnight, i like him big in this fight.Comment -
Marquez by KO in the middle rounds.Comment -
Diaz has been getting some money, the odds have drifted to +297 / -340 at Pinny. The O/U is at The Greek is O8.5 -250 U 8.5 +200. I like the odds for the under, Diaz is a shadow of his former self.Comment -
A great undercard. Finally boxing is getting back to promoting a full card instead of a big main event and a bunch of crap.
Marquez is too smart in the ring for Diaz and will attack earlier in this fight than the first one. 2 warriors, but in the end JMM will get the W. The Floyd fight was a payday mistmatch.Comment -
The thing is, though, JMM could very well look like a ghost after blowing up to an extremely unnatural 147 for Floyd. Now he's gonna go "down" to 140 which is above where he naturally ought to fight as well (which is 135 max). If one were to "fade" a fighter, JMM could be a good one. Of course I won't be surprised at all if he KO's Diaz as many are predicting, but +300 might be a good bet on Diaz. I'm certainly not gonna take JMM at fukcing -450, lol.Comment -
This undercard makes me remember the Don King promotions in his heyday. Having JC Chavez, Felix Trinidad, Frankie Randall, Ricardo Lopez and John David Jackson in the same card was awesome. And most fights were competitive... ah, the 90s were great.Comment -
JMM did not go to 147 to fight Mayweather. The fight was signed at 144, and Floyd paid a fine for being overweight. Marquez weighted 142, and I am sure he could be at 140 if he wanted without any effort. So, he did not ballooned up, just was barely over 140.
I agree, -450 for Marquez is expensive., but -340 as Pinny has it is a fair bet.Comment -
"Real fight don't start till round 13, in round thriteen ya asshole locks up, ya balls get tight, and ya don't wanna go another second, that's when the real fight starts"- Mike MccalumComment -
Parlaying two big favs just to get "better bang for your buck" is a common mistake. It amounts the same as betting in the first leg of the parlay, and if it wins, betting it all in the second leg. Not wise money management. If you like both bets, I'd recommend to make an if-bet, deciding how much to put on the second. The parlay is good only if you would go all-in.Comment
