Brock Lesner verse shane carwin

[beanbag]

Fight of the year!!

[CaptJames05]

Gonna be a great fight.. Lesner will put up a good fight, but I think Carwin is gonna win

PS: Beanbag is a chode

[GunShard]

You guys should know that I Twittered Shane Carwin to take advantage of his opponents poor submission skills. Like what Cro Cop did to Barry.

He probably gets hundreds of messages, I just gave him some good info, even though he will most likely have a striking match.

Carwin will win.

[Vrakas]

carwin lesnar ends in the second round.

[Gee]

I've got Lesnar on a 3 play parlay, together adding up to +695. The other two plays already came through, let's hope Lesnar does too

any reason why you don't have a play on carwin now? lock in your profit. you wouldnt want brock to be the losing end of a +695 parlay! at least hedge to even. carwin is a real chance in this fight bro.

[36mafia]

any reason why you don't have a play on carwin now? lock in your profit. you wouldnt want brock to be the losing end of a +695 parlay! at least hedge to even. carwin is a real chance in this fight bro.

dont be greedy, hedge for guaranteed $

[Sledge187]

Hedge!

[vassman86]

I like Carwin's odds. Lesnar is bound to show rust, and it won't help that he's facing such a legit HW.

[westerner]

brock is a better athlete and better technically in every area, and has more techniques, and is a sharper fighter mentally. carwin has the heaviest punch in the sport though so he has one hell of a punchers chance but thats all it is. brocks boxing is better and so is his defense and movement, but more importantly his wrestling. that line for carwin doesn't give good value at all.

[JBT]

any reason why you don't have a play on carwin now? lock in your profit. you wouldnt want brock to be the losing end of a +695 parlay! at least hedge to even. carwin is a real chance in this fight bro.

You have a valid point, I guess I was just too optimistic and didn't want to cut the possible ROI

[Tree Rollins]

carwin lesnar ends in the second round.

Long fight by their standards.

[illmatick]

brock is a better athlete and better technically in every area, and has more techniques, and is a sharper fighter mentally. carwin has the heaviest punch in the sport though so he has one hell of a punchers chance but thats all it is. brocks boxing is better and so is his defense and movement, but more importantly his wrestling. that line for carwin doesn't give good value at all.

exactly how I put it a few days ago, Brock at -140 is excellent value imo

not sure what you mean by sharper mentally though?

[brooks85]

specific accomplishments in pro competition? " WWE Champion" - brock

thats just silly

i got brock also, i just cant bring myself to bet him yet, this could be a duffee/russow in the making. We know carwin has a chin, we dont know if brock does.

[36mafia]

if brock picked up anything from training with couture it would be to push up against the cage and stall until he gets a takedown.
i can imagine brock will do whatever it takes to avoid standing up with carwin

[squallsquall]

You have a valid point, I guess I was just too optimistic and didn't want to cut the possible ROI

Only hedge if you think the odds justify it. Hedging just to lock in profits is a losing strategy.

[Kaladarus]

If the Brock line moves any more I might just buy back my Carwin play. Got Carwin at +170, which I think is value. If Lesnar keeps going down though might play it safe. I like Carwin as a decent dog in this fight, but at the +110 he is now I don't know how so much money is hitting him.

[Gee]

Only hedge if you think the odds justify it. Hedging just to lock in profits is a losing strategy.

not when you are betting on +695 shots, and have the opp to take the opposite side at +150 (or whatever the line is at now).

[Kaladarus]

not when you are betting on +695 shots, and have the opp to take the opposite side at +150 (or whatever the line is at now).

I get what you're saying about guaranteed profit, but was this the plan from the start? If so it would have just made more sense to not include Lesnar in the parlay and take the winnings. Planning on betting opposite sides when you're parlay is almost done will lose money in the long run. In this case especially when Carwin's odds have dropped significantly. Squalls said it best and looking at the odds I don't think the play can be justified. Unless the guaranteed money is a necessity, I encourage keeping the play as is. There's a reason JBT handicapped Lesnar, if the same beliefs are there from the first look on the fight, then the play should stay.

[Kaladarus]

specific accomplishments in pro competition? " WWE Champion" - brock

thats just silly

i got brock also, i just cant bring myself to bet him yet, this could be a duffee/russow in the making. We know carwin has a chin, we dont know if brock does.

WWE is becoming more popular in MMA, it will be a necessary component in a fighter's game some time in the near future.

[bogbat]

You guys should know that I Twittered Shane Carwin to take advantage of his opponents poor submission skills. Like what Cro Cop did to Barry. He probably gets hundreds of messages, I just gave him some good info, even though he will most likely have a striking match. Carwin will win.

lol I doubt he's going to take advice when a random when his head coach is regarded as one of the top master game planners in MMA, Greg Jackson.

[beanbag]

going down to +120!!!

[bogbat]

Really wish I jumped on Carwin early, I honestly though the MMA noobs and WWE fans would move the line the other direction. It's probably going to be Lesner or a no play for me now.

[JBT]

Didn't expect such a drastic change...

[beanbag]

carwin for the win!

[GunShard]

I believe that Shane Carwin is in favor to win because of the following factors:

1. Carwin wears a 5XL glove, Lesnar a 4XL glove. Bigger KO power.
2. Carwin is an intellectual, Lesnar is emotional. Emotional fighters do not think clearly when angry.
3. Carwin trains in thin air in Colorado. Just like Cung Le, when he uses a thin air machine when he sleeps. It helps increase stamina.
4. Carwin has the record 12-0 experience, he is slightly more experience than Lesnar.

Both fighters are about the same in age, height, weight, reach and wrestling.

I think the Public perception is on Lesnar. Kinda like how most people were on Liddell and Barry.

Let's see if I am correct.

[beanbag]

I believe that Shane Carwin is in favor to win because of the following factors:

1. Carwin wears a 5XL glove, Lesnar a 4XL glove. Bigger KO power.
2. Carwin is an intellectual, Lesnar is emotional. Emotional fighters do not think clearly when angry.
3. Carwin trains in thin air in Colorado. Just like Cung Le, when he uses a thin air machine when he sleeps. It helps increase stamina.
4. Carwin has the record 12-0 experience, he is slightly more experience than Lesnar.

Both fighters are about the same in age, height, weight, reach and wrestling.

I think the Public perception is on Lesnar. Kinda like how most people were on Liddell and Barry.

Let's see if I am correct.

really hope so.. biggest fight of the year so far

[chrisharvard01]

Be careful with that one. Lesnar may take this one to the ground and may look a lot like the Heath Herring fight, which went the distance. Lesnar is by far the better wrestler and will croud Carwin on the ground.

[Ryangene]

Who is renting it, who is going to find the bootleg link online? I am throwing a small party and getting it via PPV on Direct tv... Sure it cost $49 or so.. But the day of I always call Direct Tv ask them if i get the fight and order it if they will upgrade to HD for free and they always do... I then have a brother that has a party at his house too and he uses my sling box and gets the fight at his house too (2 hours away)

[Educ8d Degener8]

I believe that Shane Carwin is in favor to win because of the following factors:

1. Carwin wears a 5XL glove, Lesnar a 4XL glove. Bigger KO power.
2. Carwin is an intellectual, Lesnar is emotional. Emotional fighters do not think clearly when angry.
3. Carwin trains in thin air in Colorado. Just like Cung Le, when he uses a thin air machine when he sleeps. It helps increase stamina.
4. Carwin has the record 12-0 experience, he is slightly more experience than Lesnar.

Both fighters are about the same in age, height, weight, reach and wrestling.

I think the Public perception is on Lesnar. Kinda like how most people were on Liddell and Barry.

Let's see if I am correct.

1. Flawed. It comes down to impact, force, velocity, technique. Not purely a function of hand size.
2. Lesnar fights with a slow methodical pace really. He's actually pretty tactical.
3. Fail for suggesting Cung Le has any credibility in mma. He gassed like a mofo in his first fight with Scott Smith.
4. I'll go with this -- although the quality of their respective fight histories is debatable.

"Both fighters are about the same in age, height, weight, reach and wrestling."
Carwin's size is UFC hyperbole. And how is NCAA division 2 wrestling comparable to dominance at the division 1 level???

Now I know this sounds like I'm slagging on Carwin, but I've actually yet to make a call on this bout. Just think your observations are off. By a lot.

[JBT]

Bigger the glove, lesser the force of impact per square inch... So technically, a smaller glove with the same mass and velocity behind it should inflict more damage, at least that's what I got from the high school physics class some years ago. Don't quote me on it though!

[JBT]

Though what I'm talking about sounds more like piercing power... lmao

[beanbag]

JBT would you rather have a needle come at you at the same force as a rock at your face?

same physics


more area hit on head the more hurtful

[squallsquall]

Lol. I think you can drop the glove discussion...

[msec512]

I'm not a Lesnar fan, but I can see him spearing Carwin in the 1st round and ending it quick. Take a look at Carwin's fight against Gonzaga, he was hurt bad.

[Facepunch]

Wow that distance bet is a balsy one. I do not see this thing going five rounds. It would be interesting to see it though. My money is on Carwin KO in the Second round.