Not too worried about Poland...very likely they win or atleast draw after their solid showing against Russia...As for Russia, they beat CR 4-1, and CR beat Greece. If my math is correct, Russia should win! Hope I don't get ****** like today.
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yeah, but some of the Russia players looked very tired like Arshavin and Zyryanov. And Denisov was just pure wank. I agree tht I find it hard to imagine Poland losing...the Czech team really isnt tht good and Rosicky has injury issuesComment -
Big nog injured Jordan in versus KongoComment -
mma fighters should get fined for being injured like a yellow card in pride 10 percent off your purse so that way when a superstar is fighting and getting paid 500 k a fight they'll be more weary of losing 50 k over an injury
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Loaded up on roryComment -
Rory at -260.... pound.Comment -
I got some down at -300 when I saw the post.Comment -
Many of us were expecting Bones Jones-like lines on Rory here. I think -260 was more than fair. Moving quickly....Comment -
They move these openers if someone farts at them. Fight is a while away now still. I just hit it cause I can't pass up the value according to the steve nash system.
Looks like they brought BJ back so they can gass up Rory in Canada. It will bounce around, especially now, but I don't see how the line doesn't close at -500 or more.Comment -
Boy i couldn't bet Rory at those odds. He does look like a killer but against guys not that seasoned or a bit overrated (Kyle). I bet Rory his last three fights. Is this a five rounder? If so then Rory looks easy. Penn will diffidently out box him and on the ground he is tricky enuf to stay out of the way of the big blows. I guess people have seen enuf of Penn to realize he fades big time especially when he say's he is in the best shape of his life. Even fight i would bet Rory but not at 3 to 1. Rory showed when he gets out boxed he goes right for that takedown. Penn is a little different with his TDD defence than Mills. Rory gets a lot of pop for that fight with Condit but the reality is that he won the first two rounds but it wasn't like he dominated them. First time i watched it i thought he did but watching it again he won the first round slightly and a little better the second. The third was a beatdown..Comment -
This rash of injuries began to happen when fighters started getting insurance for injuries they sustain during their "job", which includes fighting and training. Happened right around Maynard/Edgar 3 when both fighters pulled out just after the insurance thing was announced and the fight was delayed.
All the fighters say no one goes in at 100%, so before guys were fighting with serious injuries cause they had to earn a living. Dana made a big speech about it and how it will benefit the sport ect. So any fighter can show the insurance company a LEGITIMATE injury, pull out of the fight, and still get paid.
But the problem is every fighter has an "injury" at any given time. Maynard and Edgar were both injured at the same time but were hiding it because they both needed the fight to go on, as soon as the insurance came in they pulled out. I think half these guys pull out when they mess up their cell each cycle.Comment -
I think the biggest problem Penn will have is the size and strength difference. he really has no business at 170 especially with someone with the "style" that Rory has. Nick Diaz was able to wear him out against the cage using his size, BJ was even complaining about the size difference and strategy Diaz used, called him a pussy. Now he wants to fight and even bigger guy who is better at it?
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yeah im with ya but Nick can swing a little better than Rory but u are right the days with Penn at 170 are over. Makes the case that he just doesn't want to train hard enuf to get to 155. I bet if he went to 155 he would have a great shot to beat Henderson. It is all that speed Frankie has that gives him problems. Im not that sold on Hendersons hands. By the way Defact a buddy of mine had a gym near my house. Frankie stopped in and train with a boxer he knows. My buddy said how surprised he was how this boxer was eating Frankie up. I guess the MMA boxing of Frankies looks great in the ring but if u get hit easily like him it is another world with a guy who can actually box.Comment -
The level of boxing as in pure boxing is still very average in MMA, but as u say that may be in a lot of cases just due to MMA boxing being different. But still, things like footwork and head movement should be a key focus no matter what and the fact is IMO tht majority of MMA fighters are still miles behind decent boxers when it comes to things like tht and using the jab particularly. Frankie happens to be one of the better ones but still isnt at the level of elite boxers of course.Comment -
I just like how Rory looks like such a dork yet is an absolute killer!
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I would love to see him fight erick silva. As bold as this sounds my money would be on silva, but dam that would be a good scrap. Either this guy or erick silva are going to hold that belt a lot sooner than ppl may expect. Providing GSP steps aside and passes the torch that is.Comment -
Yeah, agree that the speed of edgar and his footwork are his big weapons. In MMA but few others have those skills in MMA but are common for boxers. I think it's because of all the wrestlers who trained all their lives to be flat footed and keep their balance like that, so having any kind of rythm and movement on their feet is new to them.
Here is a video of Cub Swanson training with Joel Diaz before before he fought George Roop. Swansons boxing is better than a lot of MMA guys but seeing him work the mits without knowing who he is I would ask "Is this guy really a pro?".
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Swanson went to school with Bradley didnt heYeah, agree that the speed of edgar and his footwork are his big weapons. In MMA but few others have those skills in MMA but are common for boxers. I think it's because of all the wrestlers who trained all their lives to be flat footed and keep their balance like that, so having any kind of rythm and movement on their feet is new to them.
Here is a video of Cub Swanson training with Joel Diaz before before he fought George Roop. Swansons boxing is better than a lot of MMA guys but seeing him work the mits without knowing who he is I would ask "Is this guy really a pro?".
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This pic was circulating around the interwebs before the bradley fight. Beside the obvious pyramid in the background the image on the "visitor pass" looks just like the baphomet. The line dropped right before the bradley fight, the line on ross pearson dropped below the opener. Yeah they "moved it" alright.
Swanson + Bradley = Illuminati puppets.
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This dude's boxing is on another level...this is how u should hit the mits!
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ahaha or jump out of a swimming pool?Comment -
Or jump out of a planeComment -
Bj jumped out of a plane?Comment -
BJ Penn jumped out of a plane owned by Mike the SituationComment
