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VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
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#5811Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
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#5812haha holy shit, tht would never happen over here! Stag-do here is just what y'all Americans call a Bachelor party I guess... basically going somewhere and getting the groom to be absolutely wasted for a wknd...no wives/future wives allowed anywhere near. Went to the arsehole of nowhere in Wales as well and was random as fuuck. Went out in Bangor (not the place Marcus Davis is from in Maine!... it's grimy student town at top of Wales...if y'all ever come over to Britain check it out...Some of the sluttiest girls and most inbred dudes u'll ever see! And only a couple miles away is amazing scenery and Mount Snowdon which we climbed whilst wankered and after an hours sleep...was absolute hell! Gonna be struggling big time this weekLast edited by Vaughany; 05-13-12, 01:20 PM.Comment -
BeelzebubzySBR Hall of Famer
- 06-06-11
- 6995
#5813There's a horror movie called stag night that's how I learned the term Silly ignorant bubzy americanComment -
MimialexSBR Rookie
- 05-05-12
- 13
#5814But there is zero chance of this fight going to the ground unless JDS initiates. So JDS wont shoot a double and the only time it could go to the ground is when Mir gets blasted and JDS goes in for the kill but JDS has shown in the past that he knows how to clear the guard get to a good position to finish a fight. JDS will win in the 1st rd. I would be shocked if Mir makes it out of the 1st rd.
Also JDS has been quoted as saying he is more than aware of the zombie like state mir goes into and he's not going to fall for it. This is a lock. Wouldnt even contemplate mir might as well burn the money myself. This is such a bad match up. I would have rather seen big foot silva/ JDS and cain/ mir, stylistically but this fight makes more sense in terms of rankings.Last edited by Mimialex; 05-13-12, 05:01 PM.Comment -
NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-26-09
- 9345
#5815haha holy shit, tht would never happen over here! Stag-do here is just what y'all Americans call a Bachelor party I guess... basically going somewhere and getting the groom to be absolutely wasted for a wknd...no wives/future wives allowed anywhere near. Went to the arsehole of nowhere in Wales as well and was random as fuuck. Went out in Bangor (not the place Marcus Davis is from in Maine!... it's grimy student town at top of Wales...if y'all ever come over to Britain check it out...Some of the sluttiest girls and most inbred dudes u'll ever see! And only a couple miles away is amazing scenery and Mount Snowdon which we climbed whilst wankered and after an hours sleep...was absolute hell! Gonna be struggling big time this week
Wankered? Is that like being drunk while masturbating?Comment -
BeelzebubzySBR Hall of Famer
- 06-06-11
- 6995
#5817Waiting on Rivera by KO im guessing Mr. V?Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#5819UFC on Fuel 3 plays:
Parlay: 31.12 units on Rivera (-240), Lawlor (-225), & JDS/Mir to Not Go the Distance (-750) to win 41.052 units;
21.7 units on Hougland at +210 to win 45.57 units;
6.044 units on Levesseur at Evens to win 6.044 units.
No arbing out of these! I think Hougland should be closer to +150 (I think he wins 40% of the time) so half-kelly unit play on him at +210. Think Levesseur should be slight favourite so taking him as well. Obviously just needs to avoid the guillotine, hopefully uses clinch and trip take-downs rather than singles and double-legs. Cody has been training with Diaz bros so I'm sure he has evolved a bit, and he's improved his diet and physical training so dont expect him to gas out early. But Levesseur's wrestling and power should be enough.
Will post my ramblings on Hougland/Jabouin, Rivera/Soto, & Lawlor/JMac in a bit.Last edited by Vaughany; 05-14-12, 03:36 AM.Comment -
GrabakaSBR MVP
- 02-19-11
- 3216
#5820400 on Marcus Levesseur @ +136
200 on Jeff Hougland @ +227
100 on Francisco Rivera @ -200
100 on Korean Zombie @ +285
100 on Jeremy Stephens @ +220
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GigaOutsSBR Wise Guy
- 01-02-12
- 527
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VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#5822Gd question. I'd stick with what I've got and accept that sometimes the line movement will not go way I predict. I the case of this one the line has gone from +265 to +205 on BM and from +200 to +180 on Sportbet/5dimes so I dont expect it to go back to +220 or worse. I'd rather take the +210 now rather than wait and see if it goes back to +220 to +250 range. Not out of realms of possibility tht Jabouin gets some late action tomorrow before the fight and pushes Hougland back up but I'd rather not take tht chance. Im predicting tht Hougland ends up +150 to +180 range by fight time.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#5824UFC on Fuel 3 plays:
Parlay: 31.12 units on Rivera (-240), Lawlor (-225), & JDS/Mir to Not Go the Distance (-750) to win 41.052 units;
21.7 units on Hougland at +210 to win 45.57 units;
6.044 units on Levesseur at Evens to win 6.044 units.
No arbing out of these! I think Hougland should be closer to +150 (I think he wins 40% of the time) so half-kelly unit play on him at +210. Think Levesseur should be slight favourite so taking him as well. Obviously just needs to avoid the guillotine, hopefully uses clinch and trip take-downs rather than singles and double-legs. Cody has been training with Diaz bros so I'm sure he has evolved a bit, and he's improved his diet and physical training so dont expect him to gas out early. But Levesseur's wrestling and power should be enough.
Will post my ramblings on Hougland/Jabouin, Rivera/Soto, & Lawlor/JMac in a bit.
Rivera/Soto:
Rivera has the experience advantage and should not be at a disadvantage in any area so I'm prepared to play him at -250 or better. He most certainly has a considerable power advantage, his boxing is pretty good, fast hands and powerful, especially in his right hand and could see him countering a leg-kick like Michael McDonald did with a right hand and dropping Soto. Although he's stepping in on 2 weeks notice, Rivera was training for a title fight in Taichi Palace anyway and has spent time training with Ian Creepy McCall and at Erik Paulson's CSW training Center working with him and Josh Barnett. In his UFC debut he fought and lost to a good prospect in Reuben Duran, and despite breaking his hand in the first round he managed to go on to the third round until getting submitted. He showed tht he likes the guillotine against Duran, had the first one tight but Duran smartly shrugged himself out of it. But against a lesser skilled opponent in Soto (who hasn't got the credentials tht Duran has who has won the Grappler's Quest numerous times) he may be able to seal the deal with a guillotine if Soto does attempt a takedown. Rivera also wobbled Duran in the second round, but Duran showed a solid chin and recovered immediately. Others have not been able to recover, most recently Michael Mayday McDonald's brother who the UFC had tried to sign fell victim to Rivera's power within a minute and then Duarte was also knocked out viciously by Cisco more recently. Rivera has really stepped up his training and dedication since the Duran loss, he's had to deal with his mother being very ill in Arizona and wants to make some money to bring her closer to him in California. Only way I see Soto winning this is if he somehow lands a flying knee or head kick, or pulls off a crazy submission but we haven't seen anything yet which suggests he can pull that off.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#5825
Jabouin/Hougland:
Firstly, I see no reason why Jabouin should be a -345 favourite over anybody in the UFC. That opening line was rather steep IMO. For a guy who's most impressive career win is a debatable split-decision over Walel Watson, I don't see how he can be such a big favourite! Add in the fact tht Hougland is a BJJ black-belt and offers a legit submission threat and it makes the opening odds even more surprising as Jabouin's weakness is on the ground. Some random points below to consider:
- Jabouin has looked to steal rounds with takedowns in last couple of fights, something tht Hougland has recognised and said in an interview so he'll be aware of tht. Could be said tht the reason Jabouin won the Loveland and Watson fights are because he got late takedowns in rounds to maybe sway the judges.
- Before the Walker fight, Hougland had had a month out due to a back injury after his previous fight then got the call on 10 days notice so just did some running and mit work and stepped in to the octagon so he wasnt in great condition.
- Hougland striking isn't bad at all, he actually started out in kickboxing before becoming passionate about BJJ. Good left jab, solid legkicks
- Received his BJJ black-belt last November from James Foster (Giva Santana black-belt).
Hougland has said he will take Jabouin down and submit him and I believe if Jabouin takes Hougland down Yves will be in trouble as Hougland is just as dangerous off his back with armbars and triangles, as well as sweeps which Jabouin has been vulnerable to in the past (Hominick swept Jabouin after being knocked down then finished the fight). I've read people saying Jabouin has solid submission defence, I'm not sure about that. Yes, he managed to avoid being submitted by Watson, but regardless he has shown that he gets in to bad spots on the ground, and I believe Hougland will be a lot more clinical than Watson.
Granted, taking Jabouin down won't be easy as he moves well and is pretty agile and quick, but he can do it through sheer tenacity or through catching a Jabouin kick. It's reassuring to hear Hougland admitting that he is at a disadvantage if the fight stays standing, and knows that his best route to victory is to take the fight to the ground:
GD: Talk me through your upcoming matchup with Jabouin. What can we expect to see?
JH: "We both know that he's a better kickboxer. He's a talented striker, a great athlete, and he's very explosive. So, if I would fight him in a kickboxing bout, he would probably smoke me. If it was a jiu-jitsu match, I would beat him."
"This isn't either, it's an MMA fight. The key is to mix things up and make him feel uncomfortable. I need to keep him guessing. I don't think I'll be outclassed on my feet at all. I put a lot of time into all areas, so we'll see how it goes."
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BeelzebubzySBR Hall of Famer
- 06-06-11
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#5826Rivera/Soto:
Rivera has the experience advantage and should not be at a disadvantage in any area so I'm prepared to play him at -250 or better. He most certainly has a considerable power advantage, his boxing is pretty good, fast hands and powerful, especially in his right hand and could see him countering a leg-kick like Michael McDonald did with a right hand and dropping Soto. Although he's stepping in on 2 weeks notice, Rivera was training for a title fight in Taichi Palace anyway and has spent time training with Ian Creepy McCall and at Erik Paulson's CSW training Center working with him and Josh Barnett. In his UFC debut he fought and lost to a good prospect in Reuben Duran, and despite breaking his hand in the first round he managed to go on to the third round until getting submitted. He showed tht he likes the guillotine against Duran, had the first one tight but Duran smartly shrugged himself out of it. But against a lesser skilled opponent in Soto (who hasn't got the credentials tht Duran has who has won the Grappler's Quest numerous times) he may be able to seal the deal with a guillotine if Soto does attempt a takedown. Rivera also wobbled Duran in the second round, but Duran showed a solid chin and recovered immediately. Others have not been able to recover, most recently Michael Mayday McDonald's brother who the UFC had tried to sign fell victim to Rivera's power within a minute and then Duarte was also knocked out viciously by Cisco more recently. Rivera has really stepped up his training and dedication since the Duran loss, he's had to deal with his mother being very ill in Arizona and wants to make some money to bring her closer to him in California. Only way I see Soto winning this is if he somehow lands a flying knee or head kick, or pulls off a crazy submission but we haven't seen anything yet which suggests he can pull that off.
but seriously, V, thank you for your posts. I as well as all of these closet followers appreciate your breakdowns.
I have plays on Hougland, Lawlor, and Rivera as well. (Also have Amir and Cerrone)Last edited by Beelzebubzy; 05-14-12, 08:50 AM.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#5827Adding:
Parlay (double): 20 units on Rivera (-225), & TJ Grant (-350) to win 17.142 units.Comment -
BeelzebubzySBR Hall of Famer
- 06-06-11
- 6995
#5828"I'll beat somebody and work my way up into the rankings and into that title picture," Hougland said. "If not, I'll get beat up, and they'll send me home. I'm 33 years old. I'm here to get it done now."
Decent quote, I think he knows he has to get this to the ground asapComment -
brokenbrainSBR High Roller
- 05-13-12
- 138
#5829Jabouin/Hougland:
Firstly, I see no reason why Jabouin should be a -345 favourite over anybody in the UFC. That opening line was rather steep IMO. For a guy who's most impressive career win is a debatable split-decision over Walel Watson, I don't see how he can be such a big favourite! Add in the fact tht Hougland is a BJJ black-belt and offers a legit submission threat and it makes the opening odds even more surprising as Jabouin's weakness is on the ground. Some random points below to consider:
- Jabouin has looked to steal rounds with takedowns in last couple of fights, something tht Hougland has recognised and said in an interview so he'll be aware of tht. Could be said tht the reason Jabouin won the Loveland and Watson fights are because he got late takedowns in rounds to maybe sway the judges.
- Before the Walker fight, Hougland had had a month out due to a back injury after his previous fight then got the call on 10 days notice so just did some running and mit work and stepped in to the octagon so he wasnt in great condition.
- Hougland striking isn't bad at all, he actually started out in kickboxing before becoming passionate about BJJ. Good left jab, solid legkicks
- Received his BJJ black-belt last November from James Foster (Giva Santana black-belt).
Hougland has said he will take Jabouin down and submit him and I believe if Jabouin takes Hougland down Yves will be in trouble as Hougland is just as dangerous off his back with armbars and triangles, as well as sweeps which Jabouin has been vulnerable to in the past (Hominick swept Jabouin after being knocked down then finished the fight). I've read people saying Jabouin has solid submission defence, I'm not sure about that. Yes, he managed to avoid being submitted by Watson, but regardless he has shown that he gets in to bad spots on the ground, and I believe Hougland will be a lot more clinical than Watson.
Granted, taking Jabouin down won't be easy as he moves well and is pretty agile and quick, but he can do it through sheer tenacity or through catching a Jabouin kick. It's reassuring to hear Hougland admitting that he is at a disadvantage if the fight stays standing, and knows that his best route to victory is to take the fight to the ground:
GD: Talk me through your upcoming matchup with Jabouin. What can we expect to see?
JH: "We both know that he's a better kickboxer. He's a talented striker, a great athlete, and he's very explosive. So, if I would fight him in a kickboxing bout, he would probably smoke me. If it was a jiu-jitsu match, I would beat him."
"This isn't either, it's an MMA fight. The key is to mix things up and make him feel uncomfortable. I need to keep him guessing. I don't think I'll be outclassed on my feet at all. I put a lot of time into all areas, so we'll see how it goes."
Wow, impressive fight breakdown, thx for postingComment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#5831Rory MacDonald post-training session!...
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VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#5832Gerry Hopkins (UK fighter) broken leg after having a leg kick checked...
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NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-26-09
- 9345
#5833**** you for posting that.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
- 45563
#5834ha gotta keep it real sonComment -
VitoochSBR MVP
- 09-26-11
- 3470
#5835FapComment -
VitoochSBR MVP
- 09-26-11
- 3470
#5836I think the eye pic is more gruesome than the leg.
Btw V, I dont usually do this, but I made a parlay with Lawlor -225 and Dos Anjos -265. After giving the fight some thought and seeing the Shalorus line love to +240. I may have a change in heart and want to either cancel the parlay with a play on Shalorus or perhaps put even more money on Shalorus +240 than i did on the parlay. Would my sportsbook mind if I made such a bet? Excuse my ignoranceComment -
BeelzebubzySBR Hall of Famer
- 06-06-11
- 6995
#5837I think the eye pic is more gruesome than the leg.
Btw V, I dont usually do this, but I made a parlay with Lawlor -225 and Dos Anjos -265. After giving the fight some thought and seeing the Shalorus line love to +240. I may have a change in heart and want to either cancel the parlay with a play on Shalorus or perhaps put even more money on Shalorus +240 than i did on the parlay. Would my sportsbook mind if I made such a bet? Excuse my ignoranceComment -
VitoochSBR MVP
- 09-26-11
- 3470
#5838Hopefully Nunya will go easy on the sarcasm because he likes me, unlike 75% of the posters hereComment -
NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-26-09
- 9345
#5839I think the eye pic is more gruesome than the leg.
Btw V, I dont usually do this, but I made a parlay with Lawlor -225 and Dos Anjos -265. After giving the fight some thought and seeing the Shalorus line love to +240. I may have a change in heart and want to either cancel the parlay with a play on Shalorus or perhaps put even more money on Shalorus +240 than i did on the parlay. Would my sportsbook mind if I made such a bet? Excuse my ignorance
Some books would care, some wouldn't. I wouldn't do it personally. If you're at bookmaker, they won't care for sure. Rec books I wouldn't F with. They shouldn't care as its pure profit for them, but sometimes they're weird.
Either way, its a gross spot to be in. If Shalorus and Lawlor both lose you're ******. It'd work out better if the Lawlor fight was first. I would let it ride and hope someone gets a tummyache.
If you have a buddy who likes betting you could try and sell him the parlay outright.
Your ticket for one-time only sarcasm free post has been redeemed.Comment -
VitoochSBR MVP
- 09-26-11
- 3470
#5840Really not a big deal either way. I have no problem letting this ride.
Thanks brah.Comment -
VitoochSBR MVP
- 09-26-11
- 3470
#5842My major is engineering...took chemistry, calculus, analytical physics, and microeconomics this semesterComment
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