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  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #5811
    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
    Weird. My wife would not be happy about watching me get a blowjob from a hooker.


    yee, some of the shiit tht went on this wknd...!
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    • Vaughany
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 03-07-10
      • 45563

      #5812
      Originally posted by the josh
      a stag-do (or stag and doe, here in canada, presumably the same thing) is when the husband AND the wife have their "stag" version of party together at the same place.

      fuckload gayer than a normal stag party
      haha holy shit, tht would never happen over here! Stag-do here is just what y'all Americans call a Bachelor party I guess... basically going somewhere and getting the groom to be absolutely wasted for a wknd...no wives/future wives allowed anywhere near. Went to the arsehole of nowhere in Wales as well and was random as fuuck. Went out in Bangor (not the place Marcus Davis is from in Maine!... it's grimy student town at top of Wales...if y'all ever come over to Britain check it out...Some of the sluttiest girls and most inbred dudes u'll ever see! And only a couple miles away is amazing scenery and Mount Snowdon which we climbed whilst wankered and after an hours sleep...was absolute hell! Gonna be struggling big time this week
      Last edited by Vaughany; 05-13-12, 01:20 PM.
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      • Beelzebubzy
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-06-11
        • 6995

        #5813
        There's a horror movie called stag night that's how I learned the term Silly ignorant bubzy american
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        • Mimialex
          SBR Rookie
          • 05-05-12
          • 13

          #5814
          Originally posted by JOSHKROTCHNECK
          But there is zero chance of this fight going to the ground unless JDS initiates. So JDS wont shoot a double and the only time it could go to the ground is when Mir gets blasted and JDS goes in for the kill but JDS has shown in the past that he knows how to clear the guard get to a good position to finish a fight. JDS will win in the 1st rd. I would be shocked if Mir makes it out of the 1st rd.

          Also JDS has been quoted as saying he is more than aware of the zombie like state mir goes into and he's not going to fall for it. This is a lock. Wouldnt even contemplate mir might as well burn the money myself. This is such a bad match up. I would have rather seen big foot silva/ JDS and cain/ mir, stylistically but this fight makes more sense in terms of rankings.
          Oh I agree this is indeed a bad match up! I'd better watch a battle with Overeem! Such a shame the guy was replaced!! You didn't mention him, don't you feel the same way?
          Last edited by Mimialex; 05-13-12, 05:01 PM.
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          • NunyaBidness
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-26-09
            • 9345

            #5815
            Originally posted by Vaughany
            haha holy shit, tht would never happen over here! Stag-do here is just what y'all Americans call a Bachelor party I guess... basically going somewhere and getting the groom to be absolutely wasted for a wknd...no wives/future wives allowed anywhere near. Went to the arsehole of nowhere in Wales as well and was random as fuuck. Went out in Bangor (not the place Marcus Davis is from in Maine!... it's grimy student town at top of Wales...if y'all ever come over to Britain check it out...Some of the sluttiest girls and most inbred dudes u'll ever see! And only a couple miles away is amazing scenery and Mount Snowdon which we climbed whilst wankered and after an hours sleep...was absolute hell! Gonna be struggling big time this week

            Wankered? Is that like being drunk while masturbating?
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            • Vaughany
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 03-07-10
              • 45563

              #5816
              Originally posted by NunyaBidness
              Wankered? Is that like being drunk while masturbating?
              haha just very drunk
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              • Beelzebubzy
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-06-11
                • 6995

                #5817
                Waiting on Rivera by KO im guessing Mr. V?
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #5818
                  Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                  Waiting on Rivera by KO im guessing Mr. V?
                  Would like tht, but highly doubt tht we'll even get Inside distance prop for the undercard fights....at least on sportbet anyway
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #5819
                    UFC on Fuel 3 plays:



                    Parlay: 31.12 units on Rivera (-240), Lawlor (-225), & JDS/Mir to Not Go the Distance (-750) to win 41.052 units;


                    21.7 units on Hougland at +210 to win 45.57 units;


                    6.044 units on Levesseur at Evens to win 6.044 units.


                    No arbing out of these! I think Hougland should be closer to +150 (I think he wins 40% of the time) so half-kelly unit play on him at +210. Think Levesseur should be slight favourite so taking him as well. Obviously just needs to avoid the guillotine, hopefully uses clinch and trip take-downs rather than singles and double-legs. Cody has been training with Diaz bros so I'm sure he has evolved a bit, and he's improved his diet and physical training so dont expect him to gas out early. But Levesseur's wrestling and power should be enough.

                    Will post my ramblings on Hougland/Jabouin, Rivera/Soto, & Lawlor/JMac in a bit.
                    Last edited by Vaughany; 05-14-12, 03:36 AM.
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                    • Grabaka
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-19-11
                      • 3216

                      #5820
                      400 on Marcus Levesseur @ +136
                      200 on Jeff Hougland @ +227
                      100 on Francisco Rivera @ -200
                      100 on Korean Zombie @ +285
                      100 on Jeremy Stephens @ +220

                      GL
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                      • GigaOuts
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 01-02-12
                        • 527

                        #5821
                        Originally posted by Vaughany

                        21.7 units on Hougland at +210 to win 45.57 units;
                        Hypothetical Question.

                        I see you max out on Hougland. What do you do if Hougland jump to @ +220, than @ +235?
                        It likely won't happen, just saying what if you badly predict the line movement.
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                        • Vaughany
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 03-07-10
                          • 45563

                          #5822
                          Originally posted by GigaOuts
                          Hypothetical Question.

                          I see you max out on Hougland. What do you do if Hougland jump to @ +220, than @ +235?
                          It likely won't happen, just saying what if you badly predict the line movement.
                          Gd question. I'd stick with what I've got and accept that sometimes the line movement will not go way I predict. I the case of this one the line has gone from +265 to +205 on BM and from +200 to +180 on Sportbet/5dimes so I dont expect it to go back to +220 or worse. I'd rather take the +210 now rather than wait and see if it goes back to +220 to +250 range. Not out of realms of possibility tht Jabouin gets some late action tomorrow before the fight and pushes Hougland back up but I'd rather not take tht chance. Im predicting tht Hougland ends up +150 to +180 range by fight time.
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #5823
                            Originally posted by Grabaka
                            400 on Marcus Levesseur @ +136
                            200 on Jeff Hougland @ +227
                            100 on Francisco Rivera @ -200
                            100 on Korean Zombie @ +285
                            100 on Jeremy Stephens @ +220

                            GL
                            Looks good to me... BOL buddy
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                            • Vaughany
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 03-07-10
                              • 45563

                              #5824
                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                              UFC on Fuel 3 plays:



                              Parlay: 31.12 units on Rivera (-240), Lawlor (-225), & JDS/Mir to Not Go the Distance (-750) to win 41.052 units;


                              21.7 units on Hougland at +210 to win 45.57 units;


                              6.044 units on Levesseur at Evens to win 6.044 units.


                              No arbing out of these! I think Hougland should be closer to +150 (I think he wins 40% of the time) so half-kelly unit play on him at +210. Think Levesseur should be slight favourite so taking him as well. Obviously just needs to avoid the guillotine, hopefully uses clinch and trip take-downs rather than singles and double-legs. Cody has been training with Diaz bros so I'm sure he has evolved a bit, and he's improved his diet and physical training so dont expect him to gas out early. But Levesseur's wrestling and power should be enough.

                              Will post my ramblings on Hougland/Jabouin, Rivera/Soto, & Lawlor/JMac in a bit.

                              Rivera/Soto:


                              Rivera has the experience advantage and should not be at a disadvantage in any area so I'm prepared to play him at -250 or better. He most certainly has a considerable power advantage, his boxing is pretty good, fast hands and powerful, especially in his right hand and could see him countering a leg-kick like
                              Michael McDonald did with a right hand and dropping Soto. Although he's stepping in on 2 weeks notice, Rivera was training for a title fight in Taichi Palace anyway and has spent time training with Ian Creepy McCall and at Erik Paulson's CSW training Center working with him and Josh Barnett. In his UFC debut he fought and lost to a good prospect in Reuben Duran, and despite breaking his hand in the first round he managed to go on to the third round until getting submitted. He showed tht he likes the guillotine against Duran, had the first one tight but Duran smartly shrugged himself out of it. But against a lesser skilled opponent in Soto (who hasn't got the credentials tht Duran has who has won the Grappler's Quest numerous times) he may be able to seal the deal with a guillotine if Soto does attempt a takedown. Rivera also wobbled Duran in the second round, but Duran showed a solid chin and recovered immediately. Others have not been able to recover, most recently Michael Mayday McDonald's brother who the UFC had tried to sign fell victim to Rivera's power within a minute and then Duarte was also knocked out viciously by Cisco more recently. Rivera has really stepped up his training and dedication since the Duran loss, he's had to deal with his mother being very ill in Arizona and wants to make some money to bring her closer to him in California. Only way I see Soto winning this is if he somehow lands a flying knee or head kick, or pulls off a crazy submission but we haven't seen anything yet which suggests he can pull that off.
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #5825
                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                UFC on Fuel 3 plays:


                                21.7 units on Hougland at +210 to win 45.57 units;



                                Jabouin/Hougland:


                                Firstly, I see no reason why Jabouin should be a -345 favourite over anybody in the UFC. That opening line was rather steep IMO. For a guy who's most impressive career win is a debatable split-decision over Walel Watson, I don't see how he can be such a big favourite! Add in the fact tht Hougland is a BJJ black-belt and offers a legit submission threat and it makes the opening odds even more surprising as Jabouin's weakness is on the ground. Some random points below to consider:

                                - Jabouin has looked to steal rounds with takedowns in last couple of fights, something tht Hougland has recognised and said in an interview so he'll be aware of tht. Could be said tht the reason Jabouin won the Loveland and Watson fights are because he got late takedowns in rounds to maybe sway the judges.


                                - Before the Walker fight, Hougland had had a month out due to a back injury after his previous fight then got the call on 10 days notice so just did some running and mit work and stepped in to the octagon so he wasnt in great condition.

                                - Hougland striking isn't bad at all, he actually started out in kickboxing before becoming passionate about BJJ. Good left jab, solid legkicks

                                - Received his BJJ black-belt last November from James Foster (Giva Santana black-belt).

                                Hougland has said he will take Jabouin down and submit him and I believe if Jabouin takes Hougland down Yves will be in trouble as Hougland is just as dangerous off his back with armbars and triangles, as well as sweeps which Jabouin has been vulnerable to in the past (
                                Hominick swept Jabouin after being knocked down then finished the fight). I've read people saying Jabouin has solid submission defence, I'm not sure about that. Yes, he managed to avoid being submitted by Watson, but regardless he has shown that he gets in to bad spots on the ground, and I believe Hougland will be a lot more clinical than Watson.
                                Granted, taking Jabouin down won't be easy as he moves well and is pretty agile and quick, but he can do it through sheer tenacity or through catching a Jabouin kick. It's reassuring to hear Hougland admitting that he is at a disadvantage if the fight stays standing, and knows that his best route to victory is to take the fight to the ground:


                                GD: Talk me through your upcoming matchup with Jabouin. What can we expect to see?
                                JH: "We both know that he's a better kickboxer. He's a talented striker, a great athlete, and he's very explosive. So, if I would fight him in a kickboxing bout, he would probably smoke me. If it was a jiu-jitsu match, I would beat him."
                                "This isn't either, it's an MMA fight. The key is to mix things up and make him feel uncomfortable. I need to keep him guessing. I don't think I'll be outclassed on my feet at all. I put a lot of time into all areas, so we'll see how it goes."
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                                • Beelzebubzy
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-06-11
                                  • 6995

                                  #5826
                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                  Rivera/Soto:


                                  Rivera has the experience advantage and should not be at a disadvantage in any area so I'm prepared to play him at -250 or better. He most certainly has a considerable power advantage, his boxing is pretty good, fast hands and powerful, especially in his right hand and could see him countering a leg-kick like
                                  Michael McDonald did with a right hand and dropping Soto. Although he's stepping in on 2 weeks notice, Rivera was training for a title fight in Taichi Palace anyway and has spent time training with Ian Creepy McCall and at Erik Paulson's CSW training Center working with him and Josh Barnett. In his UFC debut he fought and lost to a good prospect in Reuben Duran, and despite breaking his hand in the first round he managed to go on to the third round until getting submitted. He showed tht he likes the guillotine against Duran, had the first one tight but Duran smartly shrugged himself out of it. But against a lesser skilled opponent in Soto (who hasn't got the credentials tht Duran has who has won the Grappler's Quest numerous times) he may be able to seal the deal with a guillotine if Soto does attempt a takedown. Rivera also wobbled Duran in the second round, but Duran showed a solid chin and recovered immediately. Others have not been able to recover, most recently Michael Mayday McDonald's brother who the UFC had tried to sign fell victim to Rivera's power within a minute and then Duarte was also knocked out viciously by Cisco more recently. Rivera has really stepped up his training and dedication since the Duran loss, he's had to deal with his mother being very ill in Arizona and wants to make some money to bring her closer to him in California. Only way I see Soto winning this is if he somehow lands a flying knee or head kick, or pulls off a crazy submission but we haven't seen anything yet which suggests he can pull that off.
                                  How many SBR Points are you putting on this? That is the real question.

                                  but seriously, V, thank you for your posts. I as well as all of these closet followers appreciate your breakdowns.

                                  I have plays on Hougland, Lawlor, and Rivera as well. (Also have Amir and Cerrone)
                                  Last edited by Beelzebubzy; 05-14-12, 08:50 AM.
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #5827
                                    Adding:


                                    Parlay (double): 20 units on Rivera (-225), & TJ Grant (-350) to win 17.142 units.
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                                    • Beelzebubzy
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-06-11
                                      • 6995

                                      #5828
                                      "I'll beat somebody and work my way up into the rankings and into that title picture," Hougland said. "If not, I'll get beat up, and they'll send me home. I'm 33 years old. I'm here to get it done now."

                                      Decent quote, I think he knows he has to get this to the ground asap
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                                      • brokenbrain
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 05-13-12
                                        • 138

                                        #5829
                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                        Jabouin/Hougland:


                                        Firstly, I see no reason why Jabouin should be a -345 favourite over anybody in the UFC. That opening line was rather steep IMO. For a guy who's most impressive career win is a debatable split-decision over Walel Watson, I don't see how he can be such a big favourite! Add in the fact tht Hougland is a BJJ black-belt and offers a legit submission threat and it makes the opening odds even more surprising as Jabouin's weakness is on the ground. Some random points below to consider:

                                        - Jabouin has looked to steal rounds with takedowns in last couple of fights, something tht Hougland has recognised and said in an interview so he'll be aware of tht. Could be said tht the reason Jabouin won the Loveland and Watson fights are because he got late takedowns in rounds to maybe sway the judges.


                                        - Before the Walker fight, Hougland had had a month out due to a back injury after his previous fight then got the call on 10 days notice so just did some running and mit work and stepped in to the octagon so he wasnt in great condition.

                                        - Hougland striking isn't bad at all, he actually started out in kickboxing before becoming passionate about BJJ. Good left jab, solid legkicks

                                        - Received his BJJ black-belt last November from James Foster (Giva Santana black-belt).

                                        Hougland has said he will take Jabouin down and submit him and I believe if Jabouin takes Hougland down Yves will be in trouble as Hougland is just as dangerous off his back with armbars and triangles, as well as sweeps which Jabouin has been vulnerable to in the past (
                                        Hominick swept Jabouin after being knocked down then finished the fight). I've read people saying Jabouin has solid submission defence, I'm not sure about that. Yes, he managed to avoid being submitted by Watson, but regardless he has shown that he gets in to bad spots on the ground, and I believe Hougland will be a lot more clinical than Watson.
                                        Granted, taking Jabouin down won't be easy as he moves well and is pretty agile and quick, but he can do it through sheer tenacity or through catching a Jabouin kick. It's reassuring to hear Hougland admitting that he is at a disadvantage if the fight stays standing, and knows that his best route to victory is to take the fight to the ground:


                                        GD: Talk me through your upcoming matchup with Jabouin. What can we expect to see?
                                        JH: "We both know that he's a better kickboxer. He's a talented striker, a great athlete, and he's very explosive. So, if I would fight him in a kickboxing bout, he would probably smoke me. If it was a jiu-jitsu match, I would beat him."
                                        "This isn't either, it's an MMA fight. The key is to mix things up and make him feel uncomfortable. I need to keep him guessing. I don't think I'll be outclassed on my feet at all. I put a lot of time into all areas, so we'll see how it goes."

                                        Wow, impressive fight breakdown, thx for posting
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                                        • Vaughany
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 45563

                                          #5830
                                          Originally posted by brokenbrain
                                          Wow, impressive fight breakdown, thx for posting
                                          ha Not if Jabouin goes and KO's Hougland in the first round!
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                                          • Vaughany
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563

                                            #5831
                                            Rory MacDonald post-training session!...

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                                            • Vaughany
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #5832
                                              Gerry Hopkins (UK fighter) broken leg after having a leg kick checked...

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                                              • NunyaBidness
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-26-09
                                                • 9345

                                                #5833
                                                **** you for posting that.
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #5834
                                                  ha gotta keep it real son
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                                                  • Vitooch
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-26-11
                                                    • 3470

                                                    #5835
                                                    Fap
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                                                    • Vitooch
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-26-11
                                                      • 3470

                                                      #5836
                                                      I think the eye pic is more gruesome than the leg.

                                                      Btw V, I dont usually do this, but I made a parlay with Lawlor -225 and Dos Anjos -265. After giving the fight some thought and seeing the Shalorus line love to +240. I may have a change in heart and want to either cancel the parlay with a play on Shalorus or perhaps put even more money on Shalorus +240 than i did on the parlay. Would my sportsbook mind if I made such a bet? Excuse my ignorance
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                                                      • Beelzebubzy
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 06-06-11
                                                        • 6995

                                                        #5837
                                                        Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                        I think the eye pic is more gruesome than the leg.

                                                        Btw V, I dont usually do this, but I made a parlay with Lawlor -225 and Dos Anjos -265. After giving the fight some thought and seeing the Shalorus line love to +240. I may have a change in heart and want to either cancel the parlay with a play on Shalorus or perhaps put even more money on Shalorus +240 than i did on the parlay. Would my sportsbook mind if I made such a bet? Excuse my ignorance
                                                        You are now subject to the wrath of math by Nunya.
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                                                        • Vitooch
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-26-11
                                                          • 3470

                                                          #5838
                                                          Hopefully Nunya will go easy on the sarcasm because he likes me, unlike 75% of the posters here
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                                                          • NunyaBidness
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 07-26-09
                                                            • 9345

                                                            #5839
                                                            Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                            I think the eye pic is more gruesome than the leg.

                                                            Btw V, I dont usually do this, but I made a parlay with Lawlor -225 and Dos Anjos -265. After giving the fight some thought and seeing the Shalorus line love to +240. I may have a change in heart and want to either cancel the parlay with a play on Shalorus or perhaps put even more money on Shalorus +240 than i did on the parlay. Would my sportsbook mind if I made such a bet? Excuse my ignorance

                                                            Some books would care, some wouldn't. I wouldn't do it personally. If you're at bookmaker, they won't care for sure. Rec books I wouldn't F with. They shouldn't care as its pure profit for them, but sometimes they're weird.

                                                            Either way, its a gross spot to be in. If Shalorus and Lawlor both lose you're ******. It'd work out better if the Lawlor fight was first. I would let it ride and hope someone gets a tummyache.

                                                            If you have a buddy who likes betting you could try and sell him the parlay outright.

                                                            Your ticket for one-time only sarcasm free post has been redeemed.
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                                                            • Vitooch
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-26-11
                                                              • 3470

                                                              #5840
                                                              Really not a big deal either way. I have no problem letting this ride.

                                                              Thanks brah.
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                                                              • Beelzebubzy
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 06-06-11
                                                                • 6995

                                                                #5841
                                                                Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                                Really not a big deal either way. I have no problem letting this ride.

                                                                Thanks brah.
                                                                And stop studying chemistry. What the hell is your major?
                                                                Philosophy and Psychology majors are the way to go, obviously.
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                                                                • Vitooch
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-26-11
                                                                  • 3470

                                                                  #5842
                                                                  My major is engineering...took chemistry, calculus, analytical physics, and microeconomics this semester
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                                                                  • NunyaBidness
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-26-09
                                                                    • 9345

                                                                    #5843
                                                                    Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                                    My major is engineering...took chemistry, calculus, analytical physics, and microeconomics this semester
                                                                    nerd
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                                                                    • Vitooch
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-26-11
                                                                      • 3470

                                                                      #5844
                                                                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                      nerd
                                                                      Also high school lacrosse offensive player of the year in senior year...a.k.a the complete package
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #5845
                                                                        Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                                        Also high school lacrosse offensive player of the year in senior year...a.k.a the complete package
                                                                        haaha
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