WTF Martin Kampmann was at +325

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  • bogbat
    SBR MVP
    • 03-21-10
    • 1843

    #1
    WTF Martin Kampmann was at +325
    Can't believe the number he opened at for his fight vs Paulo Thiago. Congrats if you got it LOADS of value there. He's all the way down to +165 now.


    I'm a big fan of Paulo Thiago and actually won money on him at + odds for his fight vs Swick but there's no way he should have been that much of a favorite.
  • THE_LOCKSMITH
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-08
    • 7237

    #2
    i guess your using the "show index graph" on bestfightodds, not sure what book they track the odds on (guessing BookMaker) but i dout the +325 lasted very long, wish i could have gotten in on it
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    • Straight Cash
      SBR MVP
      • 11-20-09
      • 2202

      #3
      Good at those odds, but I still think he'll lose. He's pretty overrated IMO.
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      • GordonGekko1
        SBR Rookie
        • 04-17-08
        • 36

        #4
        Paulo Thiago is a beast and on a roll lately. Kampmann is on his way down. Thiago could get a title shot after this win, Kampmann doesnt have a chance.
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        • terpkeg
          SBR MVP
          • 10-26-09
          • 2364

          #5
          Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
          i guess your using the "show index graph" on bestfightodds, not sure what book they track the odds on (guessing BookMaker) but i dout the +325 lasted very long, wish i could have gotten in on it
          5dimes opened at +325. Opening numbers have been coming out at odd times, looks like the rest of the card was opened early this morning or late last night est time by bookmaker and they are moving fast, real fast. Not sure who is catching these lines, but you need to be on top of them 24/7 it appears. Used to be nice when you knew that you just had to be ready between 2-5 on wednesday. Now they are popping up all over the place.
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          • 36mafia
            Restricted User
            • 11-08-09
            • 2389

            #6
            looks like they always open the lines in the early am now

            3/1 is great odds for kamp if you got it. 2/1 sounds about right, thiago is just about better in all aspects of the game right now
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            • Chairib
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 03-08-10
              • 917

              #7
              Originally posted by 36mafia
              thiago is just about better in all aspects of the game right now
              Thiago definitely has advantages in some aspects but he's not better in all aspects. Where have I heard this before?
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              • bogbat
                SBR MVP
                • 03-21-10
                • 1843

                #8
                I give the edge to Thiago, the guy is a beast. Scrappy stand up with knock out power and an excellent ground game. Kampmann is quite well rounded though so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he won this..
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                • sundin4prez
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-09-10
                  • 1970

                  #9
                  i have thiago in this one.... i can see this fight playing out like the condit fight (very well matched thats goes back and fourth)... i just think thiago is overall better in every aspect of mma then kampman....
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                  • 36mafia
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-08-09
                    • 2389

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chairib
                    Thiago definitely has advantages in some aspects but he's not better in all aspects. Where have I heard this before?
                    id say for atleast half the bouts on every card
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                    • urge2kill
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-27-09
                      • 1722

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bogbat
                      I give the edge to Thiago, the guy is a beast. Scrappy stand up with knock out power and an excellent ground game. Kampmann is quite well rounded though so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he won this..
                      The guy has 2 TKOs on his resume. One due to injury and the other a questionable stoppage.
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #12
                        Originally posted by urge2kill
                        The guy has 2 TKOs on his resume. One due to injury and the other a questionable stoppage.
                        Which guy?!
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                        • bogbat
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-21-10
                          • 1843

                          #13
                          Originally posted by urge2kill
                          The guy has 2 TKOs on his resume. One due to injury and the other a questionable stoppage.
                          You think the koshcheck stoppage was questionable?

                          Also the swick submission was a result of a knock down on the feet, it very well could have been a tko if he opted to follow with some ground and pound.
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                          • Vrakas
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 02-27-10
                            • 627

                            #14
                            kampman will not be a happy guy after this fight.
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                            • Vrakas
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-27-10
                              • 627

                              #15
                              thiago will need less than one round to finish this fight.
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                              • Chairib
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 03-08-10
                                • 917

                                #16
                                Originally posted by urge2kill

                                The guy has 2 TKOs on his resume. One due to injury and the other a questionable stoppage.
                                Nice to see someone here do a little research before he posts. Everyone knew the ref stopped that fight with Kos way too early, it's why they had a rematch set up for UFC 109. But Kos got hurt during training so they had Swick step in for him as a replacement.

                                That being said, Paulo's stand up striking however raw it still maybe is very powerful. It's really the one area where he's got a clear advantage on Martin. Both Daley and Marquardt showed how to beat Martin, over whelm him with strikes at the beginning and don't give him any room to recover. I think Thiago's best shot to win this fight is going to be with strikes in the first round.

                                If Martin wins this fight, it's going to be by getting the fight into the later rounds. Thiago's cardio is still very very questionable. You watch his fights and it's really evident how different of guy he is in the second and third rounds. And if you can get Thiago up against the cage during the later rounds, getting the takedown is a lot easier. Thiago's grappling is good but it's more geared towards sports BJJ not MMA. His top game is strong but it more about getting position than anything else. He's a very strong guy but if he gets into bad position on the ground, he'll just try to muscle his way out instead of trying to use proper technique.
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                                • ufcmma36
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-22-10
                                  • 1065

                                  #17
                                  Thiago wins
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Chairib
                                    Nice to see someone here do a little research before he posts. Everyone knew the ref stopped that fight with Kos way too early, it's why they had a rematch set up for UFC 109. But Kos got hurt during training so they had Swick step in for him as a replacement.

                                    That being said, Paulo's stand up striking however raw it still maybe is very powerful. It's really the one area where he's got a clear advantage on Martin. Both Daley and Marquardt showed how to beat Martin, over whelm him with strikes at the beginning and don't give him any room to recover. I think Thiago's best shot to win this fight is going to be with strikes in the first round.

                                    If Martin wins this fight, it's going to be by getting the fight into the later rounds. Thiago's cardio is still very very questionable. You watch his fights and it's really evident how different of guy he is in the second and third rounds. And if you can get Thiago up against the cage during the later rounds, getting the takedown is a lot easier. Thiago's grappling is good but it's more geared towards sports BJJ not MMA. His top game is strong but it more about getting position than anything else. He's a very strong guy but if he gets into bad position on the ground, he'll just try to muscle his way out instead of trying to use proper technique.
                                    HHAHAHA Koscheck's eyes rolled to the back of his head! Thiago would of killed him with ground and pound if the ref hadnt of stopped it!
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                                    • Chairib
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 03-08-10
                                      • 917

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                      HHAHAHA Koscheck's eyes rolled to the back of his head! Thiago would of killed him with ground and pound if the ref hadnt of stopped it!
                                      Was I talking to you dipshit? Go run along now fanboy.
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                                      • 36mafia
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-08-09
                                        • 2389

                                        #20
                                        shit in here gets hostile

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                                        • Chairib
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 03-08-10
                                          • 917

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 36mafia
                                          shit in here gets hostile

                                          Nah he's just stupid, can't really do much about that.
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                                          • Vaughany
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Chairib
                                            Was I talking to you dipshit? Go run along now fanboy.
                                            ha blimey, dont like realising you're wrong do you!
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                                            • Chairib
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 03-08-10
                                              • 917

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                                              ha blimey, dont like realising you're wrong do you!
                                              I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, so I'll make this as simple as possible: you're a retard and a complete waste of my time.

                                              Your responses have made it very clear that you lack even a basic knowledge of the sport.
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Chairib
                                                I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, so I'll make this as simple as possible: you're a retard and a complete waste of my time.

                                                Your responses have made it very clear that you lack even a basic knowledge of the sport.
                                                Amazing anecdote amigo!
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                                                • Chairib
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 03-08-10
                                                  • 917

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                  Amazing anecdote amigo!
                                                  You really don't have much to offer do you?
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                                                  • syn^
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 03-08-10
                                                    • 360

                                                    #26
                                                    I have to agree with the fact that koscheck was out when thiago hit him. He crumbled to his back and had his hands to his sides looking straight at thiago but dazed as hell and not able to cover. He was like that for a good 5 seconds too... if thiago just went straight down ala shogun with 1 punch koscheck would have really been put to sleep.
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                                                    • Vaughany
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                      • 45563

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by syn^
                                                      I have to agree with the fact that koscheck was out when thiago hit him. He crumbled to his back and had his hands to his sides looking straight at thiago but dazed as hell and not able to cover. He was like that for a good 5 seconds too... if thiago just went straight down ala shogun with 1 punch koscheck would have really been put to sleep.
                                                      But Chairib cant be wrong...he's trained BJJ since 95'!
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                                                      • bogbat
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-21-10
                                                        • 1843

                                                        #28
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #29
                                                          Congrats to all who picked Kampmann....Thiago sucked massively tonight...need a Barry win and Franklin decision big time.
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                                                          • bogbat
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-21-10
                                                            • 1843

                                                            #30
                                                            The odds makers make more mistakes in MMA than any other sport. Congrats all who took Kampmann.
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                                                            • Chairib
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 03-08-10
                                                              • 917

                                                              #31
                                                              You guys are fags
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                                                              • Eccocide
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-12-09
                                                                • 2126

                                                                #32
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                                                                • Chairib
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 03-08-10
                                                                  • 917

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany

                                                                  But Chairib cant be wrong...he's trained BJJ since 95'!
                                                                  Keep running your mouth fanboy. Unlike you, I've got some experience to know what the **** I'm talking about.
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                                                                  • illmatick
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                                    • 5456

                                                                    #34
                                                                    LOL you mother****er charib!!!!!!!

                                                                    you saved my ass on that with your Dunham write-up

                                                                    I should have put more on Kampmann but he still made me a +2.25 unit profit
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                                                                    • Chairib
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 03-08-10
                                                                      • 917

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by illmatick
                                                                      LOL you mother****er charib!!!!!!!

                                                                      you saved my ass on that with your Dunham write-up

                                                                      I should have put more on Kampmann but he still made me a +2.25 unit profit
                                                                      Good to hear it my man!
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