whats with cro cop being the underdog against pat barry?

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  • SweatySombrero
    SBR High Roller
    • 03-20-10
    • 140

    #36
    Because this is half the man that was a former Pride star. Cro Cop has fallen off hard. Don't hallucinate and think you'll ever see a left high kick send-you-to-the-cemetary KO ever again from the Croat. He's sucked since coming over to the UFC and has struggled with mediocre fighters. Has he even finished a fight in the past few years? This is the level that Mirko has fallen to, sadly enough- Being a small underdog against some no-namer.



    o yeah. all the time
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    • THE_LOCKSMITH
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-25-08
      • 7237

      #37
      Junior Dos Santos 6'2" 236
      Alistair Overeem 6'5" 241
      Cheick Kongo 6'4" 231
      Gabriel Gonzaga 6'2" 243

      CroCop has trouble with larger fighters who put the size on him and wear him down during the fights. Barry at 5'11" is less likely to do so. He does have speed and power, but Hardonk did pick him apart onthe feet in the 1st round before he was caught in the 2nd. At +142 (PINNACLE) i'm going with CroCop, still think he has a chance of pulling out a win in this spot
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      • Kaladarus
        SBR MVP
        • 11-11-09
        • 1876

        #38
        Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
        Junior Dos Santos 6'2" 236
        Alistair Overeem 6'5" 241
        Cheick Kongo 6'4" 231
        Gabriel Gonzaga 6'2" 243

        CroCop has trouble with larger fighters who put the size on him and wear him down during the fights. Barry at 5'11" is less likely to do so. He does have speed and power, but Hardonk did pick him apart onthe feet in the 1st round before he was caught in the 2nd. At +142 (PINNACLE) i'm going with CroCop, still think he has a chance of pulling out a win in this spot
        Completely agree, the price is getting good on CC.
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        • jin2daj
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 11-01-09
          • 816

          #39
          just put some points on cro cop too, not confident enough to go with real money.
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          • Chairib
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 03-08-10
            • 917

            #40
            Originally posted by SweatySombrero
            Has he even finished a fight in the past few years?
            Have you even watched Cro Cop fight in the past few years? For christsakes man, he just had a TKO win in February.

            Furthermore he has only had one fight goto a decision since coming over to the UFC.

            Win Anthony Perosh TKO (Doctor Stoppage) UFC 110 - Nogueira vs. Velasquez 2/20/2010
            Loss Junior dos Santos Submission (Punch) UFC 103 - Franklin vs. Belfort 9/19/2009
            Win Mostapha Al-Turk TKO (Punches) UFC 99 - The Comeback 6/13/2009
            Win Hong Man Choi TKO (Low Kick) K-1 - Dynamite!! Power of Courage 2008 12/31/2008 1
            NC Alistair Overeem No Contest (Knee to the Groin) Dream 6 - Middleweight Grand Prix 2008 Final 9/23/2008
            Win Tatsuya Mizuno TKO (Punches) Dream 1 - Lightweight Grand Prix 2008 Opening Round 3/15/2008
            Loss Cheick Kongo Decision (Unanimous) UFC 75 - Champion vs. Champion 9/8/2007 3
            Loss Gabriel Gonzaga KO (Head Kick) UFC 70 - Nations Collide 4/21/2007 1
            Win Eddie Sanchez TKO (Punches) UFC 67 - All or Nothing 2/3/2007 1
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            • GoldRush7
              SBR MVP
              • 04-27-09
              • 2014

              #41
              Originally posted by Chairib
              Have you even watched Cro Cop fight in the past few years? For christsakes man, he just had a TKO win in February.

              Furthermore he has only had one fight goto a decision since coming over to the UFC.

              Win Anthony Perosh TKO (Doctor Stoppage) UFC 110 - Nogueira vs. Velasquez 2/20/2010
              Loss Junior dos Santos Submission (Punch) UFC 103 - Franklin vs. Belfort 9/19/2009
              Win Mostapha Al-Turk TKO (Punches) UFC 99 - The Comeback 6/13/2009
              Win Hong Man Choi TKO (Low Kick) K-1 - Dynamite!! Power of Courage 2008 12/31/2008 1
              NC Alistair Overeem No Contest (Knee to the Groin) Dream 6 - Middleweight Grand Prix 2008 Final 9/23/2008
              Win Tatsuya Mizuno TKO (Punches) Dream 1 - Lightweight Grand Prix 2008 Opening Round 3/15/2008
              Loss Cheick Kongo Decision (Unanimous) UFC 75 - Champion vs. Champion 9/8/2007 3
              Loss Gabriel Gonzaga KO (Head Kick) UFC 70 - Nations Collide 4/21/2007 1
              Win Eddie Sanchez TKO (Punches) UFC 67 - All or Nothing 2/3/2007 1
              Have you? His TKO win in Feb was against a late replacement that was a scrub, got owned by Junior, and his win over Al-Turk was a controversial eye-poke.
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              • JuicedUp
                SBR MVP
                • 01-20-10
                • 3396

                #42
                Barry is going to chop his ass down in RD 1.
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                • doubleleg
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 03-27-10
                  • 190

                  #43
                  Pat Barry is a lot closer to his prime than CroCop. CroCop hasn't had a good fight in years.
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                  • GunShard
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-05-10
                    • 10031

                    #44
                    I noticed that Pride fighting ring has a quiet audience, while the UFC ring has a loud audience. Maybe Cro Cop gets distracted when fighting in a loud enviorment.
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                    • Vaughany
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 03-07-10
                      • 45563

                      #45
                      Hypeeeeeeeeeeee orrrrrr diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!
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                      • Educ8d Degener8
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-12-10
                        • 3177

                        #46
                        I'm just gonna stay the hell away from this one and enjoy the leg kicks.

                        But are any Barry backers worried that he'll give Cro Cop too much respect in the bout and fight a tentative fight? I mean, Barry wants Mirko's autograph...

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                        • Shane
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 02-28-10
                          • 466

                          #47
                          I don't think Barry will be tentative. He's just being respectful (as he should be). Confidence isn't lacking.
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                          • playa420
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 03-09-08
                            • 881

                            #48
                            This is a tough fight to call, cro cop hasnt looked very good latley, but barry hasnt really faced anyone. With only 6 fights ,I dont see how he should be a -170 favorite.
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                            • Vrakas
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-27-10
                              • 627

                              #49
                              "right leg hospital, left leg cemetery."
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                              • spartiatis
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 12-31-09
                                • 252

                                #50
                                Vrakas got it right - this is gonna be a short, explosive fight.
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                                • westerner
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 05-02-10
                                  • 164

                                  #51
                                  They are the same type of fighter IMO its pretty much a wash. Niether are high volume guys, CC will snipe and Barry will pressure more with leg kicks and punching...expect CC to work the clinch against the cage too. I don't think he wants to stand at range and see if he can eat Barry's power.
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                                  • nightlife32
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 05-24-09
                                    • 391

                                    #52
                                    If this is a stand up game Barry...Bury's him (pun intended) I am on Barry Cro Cop is washed up and wants to retire this should help him make his mind up. A young hungier fight will beat his face in if it is a standup game!
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                                    • ThisGuy
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 03-12-10
                                      • 517

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by ThisGuy
                                      Anybody else see Crocop possibly taking Barry down and GNP if it's not going his way on the feet?

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                                      • JuicedUp
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-20-10
                                        • 3396

                                        #54
                                        great call on Crocop!
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                                        • Shane
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 02-28-10
                                          • 466

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Shane
                                          I don't think Barry will be tentative. He's just being respectful (as he should be). Confidence isn't lacking.

                                          Profoundly wrong.
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