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  • stefan084
    SBR MVP
    • 07-21-09
    • 1490

    #1
    Keith Jardine +125?
    Keith Jardine +125 against Matt Hammill -140? i know Jardine has lost his last couple but Matt Hamill? Hammill just slowly plods along winging telegraphed punches. Won't Jardine just keep kicking him like Franklin did? Yes? /No? --thoughts?
  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #2
    People said he would do the same against Bader but got completely destroyed! Hamill isnt much different from Bader...just slower but he has leg kicks - see Munoz fight! All it takes is one of his hayemakers to connect and Jardine will be crumpled!
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    • Preston09
      SBR MVP
      • 05-19-09
      • 1834

      #3
      I would take Hammill
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      • The HOFF
        SBR MVP
        • 07-02-08
        • 4847

        #4
        Hamill should be able to take it to the ground pretty easily if he wants too.
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        • Lincoln73
          SBR Sharp
          • 02-12-10
          • 454

          #5
          jardine looked like a spent fighter the last time out.
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          • Kaladarus
            SBR MVP
            • 11-11-09
            • 1876

            #6
            Hammil can take it to the ground fairly easily if he wants too, but he's proven in the past to keep the fight standing even when he has a huge wrestling advantage. I have a feeling this fight will stay standing up for the most part and Jardine will have an advantage there. Hammil can easily win this, but it's hard to say what his strategy will be.
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            • Vrakas
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-27-10
              • 627

              #7
              sardine is probably finished but who really knows what will happen.we see fighters preform great and then the next time we see them its a completely different story.
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              • terpkeg
                SBR MVP
                • 10-26-09
                • 2364

                #8
                Originally posted by Vaughany
                People said he would do the same against Bader but got completely destroyed! Hamill isnt much different from Bader...just slower but he has leg kicks - see Munoz fight! All it takes is one of his hayemakers to connect and Jardine will be crumpled!
                Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt Bader have a lot of trouble taking Jardine down. I thought it was an even fight one round a piece, when Jardine got dropped.

                However, I think you have to give consideration to how weak Jardines chin has gotten. He gets dropped in nearly every fight. Even the Ranpage fight, he didnt get KO'd, but getting dropped at the end there probably coast him the fight.

                I think Hamill may be slightly over valued, but it is hard to take a guy who apparently cannot take a punch anymore. The more you get dropped, the easier it gets.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #9
                  Yep tht is true - Bader got 1 out of 1 takedown attempts in first round thn 1 out of 4 in second round. But he was never in trouble...was always goin to be a TKO or decision win for Bader. I wouldnt be surprised if Jardine got a decision win against Hamill...all depends on Hamills game plan. But I will never bet on Jardine with the chin he's got!
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                  • ufcmma36
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-22-10
                    • 1065

                    #10
                    jardine isnt a bad bet at all
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                    • smarmy
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-03-08
                      • 1863

                      #11
                      Jardine may be money in this fight.
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                      • THE_LOCKSMITH
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-25-08
                        • 7237

                        #12
                        i'll take Jardine at +125
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                        • Varker
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 04-03-10
                          • 283

                          #13
                          Jardine is done.
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                          • DiggityDaggityDo
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-30-08
                            • 81450

                            #14
                            Originally posted by The HOFF
                            Hamill should be able to take it to the ground pretty easily if he wants too.
                            Agree. Hamill will take it to the ground and win it.

                            I will try to plug this into my system plays and see what the system says.
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                            • Shane
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 02-28-10
                              • 466

                              #15
                              Tough fight to call, but it's hard to justify putting money on Jardine coming off of his recent performances. I'm staying away.
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                              • Straight Cash
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-20-09
                                • 2202

                                #16
                                Hamill will just control him wrestling.
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                                • as99
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-25-10
                                  • 1585

                                  #17
                                  I think Hamill will win.
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                                  • sundin4prez
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-09-10
                                    • 1970

                                    #18
                                    hamill by wrestling dominance
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                                    • vassman86
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-11-08
                                      • 1042

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                      People said he would do the same against Bader but got completely destroyed! Hamill isnt much different from Bader...just slower but he has leg kicks - see Munoz fight! All it takes is one of his hayemakers to connect and Jardine will be crumpled!
                                      Agreed. Jardine's chin is quite suspect. It's undoubtedly the weakest chin in the UFC's LHW division.
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                                      • Jrod124
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-31-09
                                        • 5622

                                        #20
                                        already locked in on this pick!
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                                        • Vaughany
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 45563

                                          #21
                                          Bet the house on Escudero...ive got him in a treble with Hamill and lil Nog. Lauzon has had a non-existant training camp going in to the fight and is going to be a mental wreck!
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                                          • urge2kill
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-27-09
                                            • 1722

                                            #22
                                            I just jumped all over Efrain after reading about Lauzon's camp.
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                                            • jin2daj
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 11-01-09
                                              • 816

                                              #23
                                              how is jardine going to handle hamill's wrestling? jardine and hamill might be equally matched standing but i htink hamill uses his superior wrestling en route to a UD or possible GnP TKO victory.
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #24
                                                Dennis Siver 5/4 underdog against Fisher....I like this alot!
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                                                • Kaladarus
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-11-09
                                                  • 1876

                                                  #25
                                                  Hamill has superior wrestling, but he hasn't really used his wrestling skills in many of his fights. I'm not sure Jardine is the right play, but if it stays standing, Jardine should dominate. Unless Hamill says he's going to use his wrestling to win the fight, I don't think playing him is a strong play.
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                                                  • Tree Rollins
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-16-09
                                                    • 3968

                                                    #26
                                                    Jardine is a better striker, Hammil is a world-class wrestler but wants to prove he has hands. The difference is that my little sister could crumple Jardine if she caught him right. At this point, saying he has a glass chin would actually be a compliment. His chin isn't hard enough to be called glass.
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                                                    • doubleleg
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 03-27-10
                                                      • 190

                                                      #27
                                                      I think the line is pretty accurate
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                                                      • westerner
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 05-02-10
                                                        • 164

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                        People said he would do the same against Bader but got completely destroyed! Hamill isnt much different from Bader...just slower but he has leg kicks - see Munoz fight! All it takes is one of his hayemakers to connect and Jardine will be crumpled!
                                                        I disagree, Bader is a much better wrestler, athlete, and even his stand up is par or better than Hamill's. Also, Bader is longer and has 1 punch KO power. Jardine is strong in the clinch and great at getting up from the bottom, he's going to wear Hamill down and as a dog this is a great look IMO.
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                                                        • Socrates
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 02-24-10
                                                          • 923

                                                          #29
                                                          Jardine is too up and down. He's very inconsistent, enough for me to stay away. The line looks tempting, but it's a plus for a reason.
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                                                          • stefan084
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-21-09
                                                            • 1490

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by westerner
                                                            I disagree, Bader is a much better wrestler, athlete, and even his stand up is par or better than Hamill's. Also, Bader is longer and has 1 punch KO power. Jardine is strong in the clinch and great at getting up from the bottom, he's going to wear Hamill down and as a dog this is a great look IMO.
                                                            i see jardine putting red marks up and down Hammil by kicks then just staying away earning a boring decision. to me Hammil doesn't seem to make adjustments during fights. i think he'll just keep slowly stalking jardine acting like the kicks don't hurt and being outpointed
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                                                            • RobbReport
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-22-09
                                                              • 2042

                                                              #31
                                                              the value is in Jardine def.
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                                                              • babyanni
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-23-09
                                                                • 1780

                                                                #32
                                                                cant bet on Dean of Mean guy has "chin issues"
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                                                                • stefan084
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-21-09
                                                                  • 1490

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by babyanni
                                                                  cant bet on Dean of Mean guy has "chin issues"
                                                                  i'm leaning that way too now but Hammill has speed issues-jardine may keep it on the outside to secure a decision and try to get back in the mix
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                                                                  • GoGoGadget
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 03-18-09
                                                                    • 570

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I can't bet on either of these guys. I do like to bet against them though :P
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                                                                    • teaserpleaser
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 08-14-08
                                                                      • 26015

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I think hamill's fight to lose
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