Mayweather vs. Mosley IN MATCH DISCUSSION

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  • Trixie
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    • 03-30-09
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    #1
    Mayweather vs. Mosley IN MATCH DISCUSSION
    Mayweather is a 4-1 favorite, in his prime, at his ideal weight class. Mosley is on the backend of his career, coming off of a stop-start 1 1/2 year layoff where he trained to his peak condition then had the fight fall through (with Berto), only to have to remotivate himself for a new fight. This kind of thing wrecked Sonny Liston for the rematch with Ali.

    I don't however, feel like it will be an easy fight for Floyd. His trainer Naazim Richardson is a smart guy and he won't let Shane give as many openings for counter punching as FLoyd's opponents usually do. If Shane has worked on his jab at all he will have a good shot in this fight. If he can avoid walking on to the straight right hand he will be in even better shape, as this is really (outside of a short lead left hook) Floyd's only offensive weapon.

    However, what is troubling is Shane's lack of footspeed. Can he close the distance between himself and Floyd quick enough to unsettle him? Unfortunately I think not. Hatton had it and that was ultimately what allowed him to abuse Floyd a little. Shane doesn't have it.

    I'm gonna have to go with Floyd by UD.
  • smallon
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    • 04-28-07
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    #2
    Floyd said it best, "Shane is talented but he (Floyd) has got God-given ability. There is a slim line between these and while I do believe Shane is an excellent fighter who has a halfway decent chance of pulling off the upset, Floyd is smart - alot smarter than people give him credit for and he will be ready. Mayweather knows what this fight means and he will be 150% for this fight and will outfox Mosley to win a close decision.
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    • Ian
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      • 11-09-09
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      #3
      I think I'm the only person rooting for Mayweather in this one. A fight between him and Pacquiao would be so great for boxing that I don't want to see Mosely get in the way with a victory and then fight only once more before retiring.
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      • jin2daj
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-01-09
        • 816

        #4
        will pacman even fight mayweather with the whole politics thing?
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        • robertgrzeda
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          • 04-28-10
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          #5
          I hope so. I think the next Mayweather's fight will be with Pacman. Mosley has got no chances as for me.

          I like both of them (Manny and Pretty Boy) - but prefer Pacquiao and think that he will win.
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          • Preston09
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            • 05-19-09
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            #6
            Easy Mayweather win!
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            • Cookie Monster
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              • 12-05-08
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              #7
              Mayweather by decision is -185, looks attractive to me.
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              • Ian
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                • 11-09-09
                • 6072

                #8
                Originally posted by jin2daj
                will pacman even fight mayweather with the whole politics thing?
                I don't see how they could throw away all that money by not having a bout... from what I've heard Pacquiao probably isn't going to win the election anyway.
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                • Czu81
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                  • 10-25-09
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ian
                  I think I'm the only person rooting for Mayweather in this one. A fight between him and Pacquiao would be so great for boxing that I don't want to see Mosely get in the way with a victory and then fight only once more before retiring.
                  Fight between Mosley vs Pacquiao would be more entertaining. IMO.
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                  • jin2daj
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                    • 11-01-09
                    • 816

                    #10
                    mayweatherrrr!!!! just put a bunch more points on him.
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                    • Hoja Verdes
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                      • 08-23-06
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                      #11
                      gotta think the action will be HEAVY on the favorite here, very lopsided match for the books.
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                      • ijrod21i
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                        • 02-20-10
                        • 324

                        #12
                        Mayweather is one of my favorite athletes but I find it extremely hard to take him outright at -450 as it is just not worth it. I'm not one of those Mayweather backers who thinks the guy is invincible. I mean, anything can happen. Mayweather -200 for the decision it is for me. BOL all on the fight.
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                        • playa420
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                          • 03-09-08
                          • 881

                          #13
                          Easy money on floyd here.Floyd Money Mayweather is pound for pound the best fighter in the world, and one of the gretest fighters of all time.Hes too smart, fast, and technical to lose to a 38 year old Shane Mosley.
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                          • Pabinator
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                            • 10-04-09
                            • 1238

                            #14
                            I think both of these guys can beat Pacroid
                            Shut your mouth when you talk to Me!
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                            • HauntingTheHoly
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                              • 04-28-10
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cookie Monster
                              Mayweather by decision is -185, looks attractive to me.
                              All the books I've seen have it at -200, mind telling where you are getting -185?
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                              • bruce_outside
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                                • 09-24-08
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                                #16
                                footspeed is right. may will be jabbing and moving a lot i feel. he'll win the dec.
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                                • HauntingTheHoly
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                                  • 04-28-10
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                                  #17
                                  Which do you prefer?

                                  Floyd by Decision @ -200

                                  vs.

                                  Shane points handicap +17.5 points @ -190
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                                  • cyberinvestor
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                                    • 04-30-10
                                    • 1952

                                    #18
                                    Listen, Mayweather has talent but HONESTLY who has he really fought? He fought the bar fighter Hatton, the Medicare subscribing DeLaHoya, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir. Marquez is the only fighter of any value that he fought. Mayweather's career has been more protected than Julio Ceasar Chavex Jr.

                                    Who has Mosley fought? Cotto, Winky Wright (in his prime), Margarito (by KO and yes he didn't get to use his wraps but wraps didn't help Margarito stand up when Cotto was hitting him with a baseball bat yet Shane knocked him out), and we can go on.

                                    Ok, so I am a Mosley fan for his entire career. The guy is a class act and a good boxer. His age and layoff worry me. Like a good horse he should have had a fight before this one. The other thing that concerns me is the big money for promoters, Vegas, and the books is not Mosley/Pacquiao. It is Mayweather/Pacquia. The latter fight would be worth 10-15 million more in revenue across the board. I don't say boxing is fixed but money has tended to talk in Vegas and in boxing. Go back and look at some of Don King's promoted fights. Some questionable decisions in there and likely this fight will go to a decision. I would be shocked if Mayweather KO's Mosley and I can't see Mosley KOing Mayweather. So if it goes to a decision....hmmmmm. Money talks.

                                    In a fair fight, all things being equal, this will be the biggest test of Mayweather's career and will be really his only quality opponent in the last ten. I would LOVE to see Mosley win and I think he can do it. The 3.5-1 odds look pretty sweet on Sugar given that I think these two are evenly matched. Everything has me wanting to bet Shane but it almost seems too easy. I guess we will find out Saturday.

                                    CONCLUSION: Mosley has a much better trainer than Mayweather (1-0 Mosley), Mayweather is younger (1-1), Mosley has a much higher class rating based on opponents (2-1 Mosley), more money to everyone involved if Mayweather wins and meets Pacquiao (2-2), Public money is all over Pretty Boy (3-2 Mosley), Shane's experience is second to none (4-2 Mosley), Shane has been knocked down and knows how to get back up...Mayweather has not (5-2 Mosley). At +350 I have to take Mosley for value and for the way this looks on paper.

                                    Good luck and enjoy the fight!!! GO MOSLEY!!!!
                                    Today is the tomorrow we worried about yesterday.
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                                    • pimike
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by cyberinvestor
                                      Listen, Mayweather has talent but HONESTLY who has he really fought? He fought the bar fighter Hatton, the Medicare subscribing DeLaHoya, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir. Marquez is the only fighter of any value that he fought. Mayweather's career has been more protected than Julio Ceasar Chavex Jr.

                                      Who has Mosley fought? Cotto, Winky Wright (in his prime), Margarito (by KO and yes he didn't get to use his wraps but wraps didn't help Margarito stand up when Cotto was hitting him with a baseball bat yet Shane knocked him out), and we can go on.

                                      Ok, so I am a Mosley fan for his entire career. The guy is a class act and a good boxer. His age and layoff worry me. Like a good horse he should have had a fight before this one. The other thing that concerns me is the big money for promoters, Vegas, and the books is not Mosley/Pacquiao. It is Mayweather/Pacquia. The latter fight would be worth 10-15 million more in revenue across the board. I don't say boxing is fixed but money has tended to talk in Vegas and in boxing. Go back and look at some of Don King's promoted fights. Some questionable decisions in there and likely this fight will go to a decision. I would be shocked if Mayweather KO's Mosley and I can't see Mosley KOing Mayweather. So if it goes to a decision....hmmmmm. Money talks.

                                      In a fair fight, all things being equal, this will be the biggest test of Mayweather's career and will be really his only quality opponent in the last ten. I would LOVE to see Mosley win and I think he can do it. The 3.5-1 odds look pretty sweet on Sugar given that I think these two are evenly matched. Everything has me wanting to bet Shane but it almost seems too easy. I guess we will find out Saturday.

                                      CONCLUSION: Mosley has a much better trainer than Mayweather (1-0 Mosley), Mayweather is younger (1-1), Mosley has a much higher class rating based on opponents (2-1 Mosley), more money to everyone involved if Mayweather wins and meets Pacquiao (2-2), Public money is all over Pretty Boy (3-2 Mosley), Shane's experience is second to none (4-2 Mosley), Shane has been knocked down and knows how to get back up...Mayweather has not (5-2 Mosley). At +350 I have to take Mosley for value and for the way this looks on paper.

                                      Good luck and enjoy the fight!!! GO MOSLEY!!!!
                                      Key Factors: AGE and Mosley hasn't fought in a year.

                                      GL
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                                      • JC2008
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                                        • 02-27-08
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                                        #20
                                        Mosley has not fought since January 2009. People also forget how he was outboxed by Miguel Cotto in November 2007 (when he was younger) and the trouble he had with Ricardo Mayorga the following year (knocking him out with 1 second left in the 12th round). Hopefully a cut doesn`t render this a no contest or some stupid shit like that. Mayweather decision -210 is probably the most logical bet.
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                                        • SweatySombrero
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                                          • 03-20-10
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                                          #21
                                          Mosley has not fought since January 2009. People also forget how he was outboxed by Miguel Cotto in November 2007 (when he was younger) and the trouble he had with Ricardo Mayorga the following year (knocking him out with 1 second left in the 12th round). Hopefully a cut doesn`t render this a no contest or some stupid shit like that. Mayweather decision -210 is probably the most logical bet.

                                          o yeah for sure
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                                          • pimike
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                                            #22
                                            Mayweather plain and simple
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                                            • Cookie Monster
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                                              • 12-05-08
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                                              #23
                                              When I posted my previous message, The Greek had MW by Dec at -185. Now, it is at -210, but Pinny posted it at -187.
                                              5 dimes has "Mayweather 12 round decision" at -180; and Boylesports has MW by Dec listed at -175 (4/7), but most possibly with a small limit.
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                                              • jon13009
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                                                • 09-22-07
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                                                #24
                                                Mayweather to win.....still looking for a payday agaisnt Pac-Man.
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                                                • 1UP
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                                                  • 01-20-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Trixie
                                                  Mosley is on the backend of his career, coming off of a stop-start 1 1/2 year layoff where he trained to his peak condition then had the fight fall through (with Berto), only to have to remotivate himself for a new fight.

                                                  His trainer Naazim Richardson is a smart guy and he won't let Shane give as many openings for counter punching as FLoyd's opponents usually do. If Shane has worked on his jab at all he will have a good shot in this fight. If he can avoid walking on to the straight right hand he will be in even better shape, as this is really (outside of a short lead left hook) Floyd's only offensive weapon.

                                                  However, what is troubling is Shane's lack of footspeed.

                                                  Can he close the distance between himself and Floyd quick enough to unsettle him? Unfortunately I think not. Hatton had it and that was ultimately what allowed him to abuse Floyd a little. Shane doesn't have it. I'm gonna have to go with Floyd by UD.
                                                  Wow @ all of this.

                                                  There's a difference between reckless aggression and effective aggression. The ultimate slap in the face is thinking Hatton at 147 can do anything in a fight against Floyd better than Shane.
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                                                  • ngates815
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                                                    • 12-01-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Cookie Monster
                                                    Mayweather by decision is -185, looks attractive to me.

                                                    Agreed.
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                                                    • JC2008
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                                                      • 02-27-08
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                                                      #27
                                                      Don't forget that Mosley is gonna have to knock him out to win. He's not gonna win a decision when the judges know how much money is on the table in a Floyd/Pacquiao fight.
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                                                      • hugh4310
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                                                        #28
                                                        Don't over think this! Just like any other sport it's all about the money. The public wants to see Mayweather vs Paco so that is what is going to happen. All major sports are rigged.
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                                                        • eidolon
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                                                          • 01-02-08
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Cookie Monster
                                                          Mayweather by decision is -185, looks attractive to me.
                                                          If you want profit: Bet Mayweather Decision -185, ALSO bet under 11.5 rounds at +280

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                                                          • mv09
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                                                            • 09-20-07
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by eidolon
                                                            If you want profit: Bet Mayweather Decision -185
                                                            Completely Agree

                                                            Too bad BetJamaica has it at -285.
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                                                            • shroomysoup
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                                                              • 04-28-10
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                                                              #31
                                                              Mayweather all day!
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                                                              • pimike
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by eidolon
                                                                If you want profit: Bet Mayweather Decision -185, ALSO bet under 11.5 rounds at +280



                                                                Mayweather wins by decision you don't make anything. If he wins by knock out To you win 95 while risking 465.

                                                                Don't like that bet at all.
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                                                                • LTCOL27
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                                                                  • 12-03-09
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Mayweather is the easy winner. Good luck fellas.
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                                                                  • pimike
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by LTCOL27
                                                                    Mayweather is the easy winner. Good luck fellas.
                                                                    exactly, Just bet him to win sit back and collect the money.
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                                                                    • mocash
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                                                                      • 03-28-08
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      floyd money paying the bills
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