Carwin/ Lesnar

[Facepunch]

I am thinking that it is entirely possible for Carwin to beat Lesnar on his scheduled return July 30th of this year.

The line is set Lesnar-200
Carwin +160


I will be watching this one, Hopefully people bet Lesnar Up to triple Digits.

(sorry in advance if this has been discussed before, I scanned the posts and did not see it)

[RobbReport]

call me crazy but i like Carwin.

[Shane]

I was skeptical about Carwin leading up to the Mir fight, but I've come around. He's got a great punchers chance here. I wouldn't put too much on him because we haven't seen him on the ground yet, but if he were to pin Brock up against the cage he could wreak some havoc. Brock's ring rust also needs to be considered.

[Facepunch]

Nobody really knows the extent of Lesnar's physical condition. He could also be pretty weak. Keep your eyes on this line, I am taking Carwin One way or another, he is a big dude with solid punches, good subs and just as good wrestling background as Lesnar.

[sundin4prez]

i can see it going either way but i can not not bet on lesnar at -200..... i see lesnar being bigger and better in everything except punching power. lesnar is bigger,quicker,better wrestling and even though he has had less fights he has had bigger fights then carwin....

[Facepunch]

On Lesnar's Health Issues:
(from Wikipedia)

In addition to mononucleosis, it was revealed that Lesnar was suffering from a serious case of diverticulitis, an intestinal disorder, which would require surgery.[92] After further diagnosis, on November 16 Lesnar underwent surgery to close a perforation in his intestine that had been leaking fecal matter into his abdomen, causing pain, abscesses, and overtaxing his immune system to the point that he contracted mononucleosis. From the level of damage to Lesnar's system, the surgeon estimated that the intestinal condition had been ongoing for around a year.[93]

[Facepunch]

i can see it going either way but i can not not bet on lesnar at -200..... i see lesnar being bigger and better in everything except punching power. lesnar is bigger,quicker,better wrestling and even though he has had less fights he has had bigger fights then carwin....

I don't know , Carwin has more pro experience

Lesnar has to cut quite a bit to get to 265 walking around @ 6,4' closer to 300LBS!!
Carwin is 6,2' and walks around near weight.

I think that Lesnar will have to cut extra weight since he has not been training for the past couple of months.

I just think Carwin has the better chance in this fight.

I would say that wrestling is close to equal in terms of MMA Div I vs. Div II does not mean much in MMA.

Shane Carwin is the real deal I just hope that a bunch of people bet up Lesnar to -400 area.

It is going to be a good fight, but there is much more value in Carwin.

[doubleleg]

I'll pick Carwin when his line gets over 200. He has a chance but the numbers aren't there yet.

[JuicedUp]

Can't bet against the fukking beast Lesnar. I'll probably stay away from this one. Too many unknowns when it comes to Lesnar's health right now.

[36mafia]

i like carwin here as well.
couture was able to control and pin brock easily against the cage
lesnar wanted no part of mir's stand up, imagine what carwin's gonna do to him
what else does brock have to offer?

[tabletop3]

Lesnar is very inexperienced and if he were to get rocked by Carwin he wouldn't know what to do and would go down very easily.

[Vrakas]

i like carwin here as well.
couture was able to control and pin brock easily against the cage
lesnar wanted no part of mir's stand up, imagine what carwin's gonna do to him
what else does brock have to offer?

Brock has nothing to offer this fight other than he might get Carwin down. He is unlikely to finish the fight though because Carwin has a good chin. Lesnar's on the other hand is suspect due to the fact that he almost got knocked out by Mir in the 10seconds they were standing up in round 2. Lesnar has a decision win and 2 round 2 TKOs. Looking at his opponents you cant give him much credit. Herring by decision? WOW. Randy Couture who is 80lbs lighter? Congratulations. Also he beat Mir in the second fight by overpowering him and Mir was easily able to last until the second round even though he was significantly lighter and weaker at the time. Carwin beat Mir at his best, and had the power to finish him in the clinch. When he applies the clinch to Lesnar the same thing is going to happen. If a tiny Couture can do it, I'm pretty sure Carwin who has handled all his opponents will do it effortlessly. Carwin has 5rounds to land 1 KO punch, Lesnar has 5rounds to not gracefully accept 1 KO punch. Should be an early night.

[playa420]

Brock has nothing to offer this fight other than he might get Carwin down. He is unlikely to finish the fight though because Carwin has a good chin. Lesnar's on the other hand is suspect due to the fact that he almost got knocked out by Mir in the 10seconds they were standing up in round 2. Lesnar has a decision win and 2 round 2 TKOs. Looking at his opponents you cant give him much credit. Herring by decision? WOW. Randy Couture who is 80lbs lighter? Congratulations. Also he beat Mir in the second fight by overpowering him and Mir was easily able to last until the second round even though he was significantly lighter and weaker at the time. Carwin beat Mir at his best, and had the power to finish him in the clinch. When he applies the clinch to Lesnar the same thing is going to happen. If a tiny Couture can do it, I'm pretty sure Carwin who has handled all his opponents will do it effortlessly. Carwin has 5rounds to land 1 KO punch, Lesnar has 5rounds to not gracefully accept 1 KO punch. Should be an early night.

Carwins chin didnt look so great against Gonzaga.He got rocked just as bad if not worse than what happened to Brock.When brock takes carwin down and starts smahing him in the face hes not gonna be able to take it.

[Chairib]

Carwins chin didnt look so great against Gonzaga.He got rocked just as bad if not worse than what happened to Brock.When brock takes carwin down and starts smahing him in the face hes not gonna be able to take it.

Yes he did get rocked but he was able to recover and win the fight against Gonzaga, that's actually a sign of a great chin.

[Tree Rollins]

I'm looking forward to Brocks 1st takedown attempt against Carwin. It will be interesting to see if he can get him down, how difficult it will be, and can he keep him down. This will be the first time Brock hasn't been in there with someone he can easily manhandle. How crazy would it be to see these two giants in a stand-up war with each other.

[clarkd32]

i'll wait till 5Dimes posts a line on this fight not to go the distance.

really pumped for this fight...

[urge2kill]

Yes he did get rocked but he was able to recover and win the fight against Gonzaga, that's actually a sign of a great chin.

Didn't Lesnar also recover and win that fight, making his chin also great?

[Varker]

This is a tough one to bet on. Carwin has an edge in striking, but Lesnar could out wrestle him.

[smarmy]

i think that only carwin or velasquez have a chance at beating Lesnar. Although, I would like to see 'Big Country' get his shot, that would be a fun pummeling to watch.

[Facepunch]

Great value on Carwin, I am hoping the money comes fast and furious on Lesnar closer to fight time.

[Retibol]

If he ever gonna beat Lesnar, now its the time.

I cant wait.........

[ufcmma36]

call me crazy but i like Carwin.

If thats crazy call me charles manson!lol Im on the Carwin bandwagon!

[ufcmma36]

I wonder if it will go past 3min?

[36mafia]

I wonder if it will go past 3min?

i would definitely lay a few bucks on a prop to not go past 1 - 1.5 rounds
sure lesnar is a better wrestler on paper but i think carwin will be more than able to just do enough to sprawl and brawl
every round starts standing. if brock takes carwin down and does nothing on the ground the ref will stand them up. he will be in a world of pain if they go toe to toe on the stand up

[Facepunch]

Carwin is definitely the more experienced striker, Lesnar's trademark power is definitely suspect after having mono.

[NOLA42]

The only thing keeping me from taking Lesnar in this fight is his illness and how it will affect him

[dooman14]

the house wife kids and cat on carwin