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  • azimm11
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-06-09
    • 637

    #36
    GSP has no real competition at the Welterweight division as of right now, and it would be in his best interest to move up a weight class and get some fights in at Middleweight
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    • Pabinator
      SBR MVP
      • 10-04-09
      • 1238

      #37
      Im not sure if that guy should move up in weight, he is small for a middleweight
      Shut your mouth when you talk to Me!
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      • THE_LOCKSMITH
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-25-08
        • 7237

        #38
        Another GSP decision title defense, and looks like he may be vacating the WW title to go fight Anderson Silva. Who would fight for the title Fitch/Penn 2 has been called off, here are some upcoming matches

        UFC 130
        Thiago Alves vs. Rick Story

        UFC Versus 4
        Anthony Johnson vs. Nate Marquardt
        John Howard vs. Martin Kampmann

        UFC 132
        Carlos Condit vs. Dong Hyun Kim

        UFC 135
        Matt Hughes vs. Diego Sanchez
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        • Kaladarus
          SBR MVP
          • 11-11-09
          • 1876

          #39
          By the time the match is finalized it will be later in August after the Silva fight. Unless GSP gets scheduled to fight Diaz or someone else we wont know until the Silva fight. By this time Shields should be good to go, BJ should be ready and probably Fitch will be ready to go also. I think there's a decent chance the vacated belt would involve 1 or 2 of these fighters. Also if someone gets a great performance in before the Silva fight they could be put in line.
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          • brooks85
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-05-09
            • 44709

            #40
            Sounded like dana was pretty interested in Nick fighting GSP. There is also a few more matchups for him between some the guys hoff listed and possibly macdonald, if they can string some Ws together. I doubt he is going to make the jump to MW anytime soon but I hope he does.
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            • THE_LOCKSMITH
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-25-08
              • 7237

              #41
              Diaz has not fought a good wrestler since leaving the UFC. Sanchez/Sherk were smaller 170lbers wrestlers, doubt he'll be able to handle the bigger GSP/Fitch/Kos
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563

                #42
                Id like 2 see Rory Macdonald vs Patrick
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                • clarkd32
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 09-15-06
                  • 863

                  #43
                  gsp/diaz is one of the few fights the ufc can market and potentially interest fans. gsp has beat everyone else at least once already.
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                  • urge2kill
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-27-09
                    • 1722

                    #44
                    GSP should fight Diaz, vacate the belts, then move up to MW. Then they can have a WW tourney.
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                    • Ladle
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 03-21-11
                      • 835

                      #45
                      Originally posted by azimm11
                      GSP has no real competition at the Welterweight division as of right now, and it would be in his best interest to move up a weight class and get some fights in at Middleweight
                      I wouldn't say there's no competition. The welterweight division has a lot of good, fresh talent in the form of heavy-handed wrestlers like Ellenberger, Pierce, Story and Hendricks, but one name hasn't risen to the top of the heap yet. Also, if Condit can tear through Kim, I think Zuffa would consider him as a viable contender.
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                      • pgabb7887
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 05-02-11
                        • 1

                        #46
                        GSP is the man and dominates every oppenent he faces
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                        • bogbat
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-21-10
                          • 1843

                          #47
                          I think Story could pose a real threat. If he can get past Alves he should get a shot. Kid is a beast.
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                          • THE_LOCKSMITH
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-25-08
                            • 7237

                            #48
                            Well after GSP pulled out of UFC 137, the welterweight divsion breaks down like this, gonna be a great fight with Diaz at 143 and if the Condit/Koscheck fights goes down, Condit might lose his chance at the belt.

                            UFC 139 Martin Kampmann/Rick Story
                            UFC 140 Brian Ebersole/Rory MacDonald
                            UFC 141 Jon Fitch/Johny Hendricks Dong Hyun Kim/Sean Pierson

                            UFC 143 George St Pierre/Nick Diaz Carlos Condit/Josh Koscheck

                            others: Jake Shields, Jake Ellenberger, Charlie Brenneman, Thiago Alves, Diego Sanchez, Matt Hughes, BJ Penn,
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                            • Vitooch
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-26-11
                              • 3470

                              #49
                              Can't wait to see Rory fight for the title in the next few years. This kid is a killer.
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                              • gabe
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-12-11
                                • 7405

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Vitooch
                                Can't wait to see Rory fight for the title in the next few years. This kid is a killer.
                                Ebersole is going to beat him.

                                Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                                Well after GSP pulled out of UFC 137, the welterweight divsion breaks down like this, gonna be a great fight with Diaz at 143 and if the Condit/Koscheck fights goes down, Condit might lose his chance at the belt.

                                UFC 139 Martin Kampmann/Rick Story
                                UFC 140 Brian Ebersole/Rory MacDonald
                                UFC 141 Jon Fitch/Johny Hendricks Dong Hyun Kim/Sean Pierson

                                UFC 143 George St Pierre/Nick Diaz Carlos Condit/Josh Koscheck

                                others: Jake Shields, Jake Ellenberger, Charlie Brenneman, Thiago Alves, Diego Sanchez, Matt Hughes, BJ Penn,
                                I woulda liked to see Condit vs Ellenberger, Shields vs Sanchez, and Koscheck vs Alves

                                Originally posted by urge2kill
                                GSP should fight Diaz, vacate the belts, then move up to MW. Then they can have a WW tourney.
                                GSP's coach said that they could move him to lightweight before moving him to middleweight. That camp is full of BS artists.
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                                • Vaughany
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 03-07-10
                                  • 45563

                                  #51
                                  Condit is fighting Koscheck next. And if you want to see Condit vs Ellenberger and Koscheck vs Alves then u can because they've already happened before!!!
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                                  • gabe
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-12-11
                                    • 7405

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                    Condit is fighting Koscheck next. And if you want to see Condit vs Ellenberger and Koscheck vs Alves then u can because they've already happened before!!!
                                    Um, I know Condit is fighting Koscheck. I am up to date with all the fights on all the upcoming cards. Quit making assumptions, it's like an illness you've all got.

                                    Koscheck vs Sanchez has happened before, too, but I'd like to see that fight, as well... What's your point? New rule pass where UFC doesn't put fighters together if they had previously fight? I must have missed this. Let me check google news...
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                                    • FightFightFight
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 03-21-11
                                      • 594

                                      #53
                                      Seriously, stop polluting all the threads. Try to stick to one or two. Tiresome...
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                                      • Vitooch
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-26-11
                                        • 3470

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by gabe
                                        Ebersole is going to beat him.



                                        I woulda liked to see Condit vs Ellenberger, Shields vs Sanchez, and Koscheck vs Alves


                                        Well you just convinced me...I'm going all-in on Ebersole now.

                                        You prob don't even know that Condit/Ellenberger, and Kos/Alves have already fought.
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                                        • Vitooch
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-26-11
                                          • 3470

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                                          Condit is fighting Koscheck next. And if you want to see Condit vs Ellenberger and Koscheck vs Alves then u can because they've already happened before!!!
                                          You should know Gabe is always up to date on his fights...

                                          This man lives and breathes MMA.
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                                          • Educ8d Degener8
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-12-10
                                            • 3177

                                            #56
                                            Rory pulled out of the Ebersole fight. Must've seen Gabe's prediction and knew there was a 92% chance that he was doomed against Ebersole...

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                                            • Vaughany
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #57
                                              The curse of Gabe!

                                              Patrick is still a tough opponent, if Ebersole leaves his neck out there like he has in previous fights Patrick could take advantage
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                                              • proposition joe
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-06-11
                                                • 532

                                                #58
                                                MacDonald is the only welterweight who has a legit shot at outclassing GSP. Diaz or Condit could catch the champ but would probably lose in the immediate rematch. MacDonald beats him everywhere. Yeah, I said it. Call me a hypetrain rider if you want, this kid is the real deal.
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                                                • Vitooch
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-26-11
                                                  • 3470

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by proposition joe
                                                  MacDonald is the only welterweight who has a legit shot at outclassing GSP. Diaz or Condit could catch the champ but would probably lose in the immediate rematch. MacDonald beats him everywhere. Yeah, I said it. Call me a hypetrain rider if you want, this kid is the real deal.
                                                  You're right on the money.

                                                  Macdonald is so calculated and technical, yet so athletic and skilled.

                                                  The way he performed against Condit in those first two rounds impressed the hell out of me. I knew we had something special here


                                                  I could see him tooling Condit in an immediately rematch, but would like to see how he fairs against a strong wrestler like KOS first.
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                                                  • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-25-08
                                                    • 7237

                                                    #60
                                                    Welterweight division breaks down with Condit winning a tight decision over Diaz and taking the interm title. Looks like he has decided to wait till GSP to unify the belt while Diaz is in limbo with his drug test issues.

                                                    Refreshing from the days when Fitch and Alves were 2 and 3 in the division there are 2 other guys on the verge of a title shot (besides Condit and Diaz) in Hendricks and Ellenberger who both have big fights coming in the near future.

                                                    UFC FOX 3
                                                    Johny Hendricks vs. Josh Koscheck

                                                    TUF Finale
                                                    Jake Ellenberger vs. Martin Kampmann

                                                    UFC FX 3
                                                    Charlie Brenneman vs. Erick Silva
                                                    Mike Pierce vs. Carlos Eduardo Rocha

                                                    UFC 148
                                                    Dong Hyun Kim vs. Demian Maia

                                                    UFC 149
                                                    Jon Fitch vs. Aron Simpson
                                                    Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Thiago Alves
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                                                    • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-25-08
                                                      • 7237

                                                      #61
                                                      Haven't bumped this in a while, GSP still champ after beating Condit. Now looks like Nick Diaz getting the next shot before Hendricks.
                                                      some interesting upcoming fights

                                                      FX 6: Pierce vs Baczynski
                                                      StrikeFroce: Marquardt Vs Saffiedine
                                                      UFC 156 Fitch Vs Maia, Hieron Vs Eric Silva
                                                      ??? GSP Vs Diaz

                                                      no current opponents MacDonald, Condit, Koscheck, Hendricks, Kampmann Ellenberger, Alves, Story, Thiago, Kim, Akiyama
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                                                      • Vaughany
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                        • 45563

                                                        #62
                                                        What about Matt Brown brah! Next Champ
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                                                        • gabe
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-12-11
                                                          • 7405

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                          What about Matt Brown brah! Next Champ
                                                          lmao
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                                                          • DirtyX
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 06-05-11
                                                            • 686

                                                            #64
                                                            Rory is clearly in the top 2 or 3 at WW. He should fight GSP, although I know they won't ever fight... Hendricks would also be a good scrap also I think. There is still some competetion at WW for GSP imo.
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                                                            • Vaughany
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 03-07-10
                                                              • 45563

                                                              #65
                                                              will be Rory Condit rematch next
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                                                              • gabe
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-12-11
                                                                • 7405

                                                                #66
                                                                I doubt Condit wants that fight. I bet he's gonna say he wants Kampmann rematch first.
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                                                                • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-25-08
                                                                  • 7237

                                                                  #67
                                                                  UFC 158 was a bigt night for the welterweight.
                                                                  GSP def nick Diaz
                                                                  Hendricks def Condit
                                                                  Ellenberger def Marquardt
                                                                  Mein def Miller
                                                                  Story def Mulhern

                                                                  So GSP/Hendricks is next for the title, and only other matchup made is Woodly/Shields at UFC 161. Let the match making begin

                                                                  other welterweights: Maia, R. Macdonald, Kampmann, Koscheck, Lawler, Pierce, Saffiedine, Alves, Kim,
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                                                                  • Hannibal
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-15-11
                                                                    • 1055

                                                                    #68
                                                                    rogan loves to go on about 155 being a shark tank..
                                                                    but 170 is where the real killers are
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                                                                    • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-25-08
                                                                      • 7237

                                                                      #69
                                                                      let's not take Diaz threat to retire seriously, when you see SI front page read, UFC Diaz: "I don't pay taxes". I'm guessing he'll be fighting to pay off past taxes for the next couple years to come.
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                                                                      • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 08-25-08
                                                                        • 7237

                                                                        #70
                                                                        last night had some significant welterweight fights

                                                                        Jake Shields def. Demian Maia
                                                                        Dong Hyun Kim def. Erick Silva
                                                                        Rousimar Palhares def. Mike Pierce

                                                                        Maia looked like he was gonna be next in line, now no clear contender for winner of GSP/Hendricks


                                                                        UFC 166
                                                                        Hector Lombard vs. Nate Marquardt

                                                                        UFC 167
                                                                        Georges St-Pierre vs. Johny Hendricks
                                                                        Robbie Lawler vs. Rory MacDonald
                                                                        Josh Koscheck vs. Tyron Woodley

                                                                        FOX 9
                                                                        Matt Brown vs. Carlos Condit

                                                                        some guys without fights: Jake Ellenberger, Martin Kampmann, Thiago Alves, Nick Diaz, Tarec Saffiedine. Ben Askren??
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