pacquiao steroid issue what you think?

[phillybadboy]

i've been readin about this topic online,and hearing abotu it on the streets just wanted hear what the ellas had to say,(i know this is the nba section).

[phillybadboy]

skills pay the bills in boxing, steroids dont win fights,this is not track,cycling,weightlifting or bodybuilding

[phillybadboy]

peopple say he is on steroids because he went from 135 to 147 lbs. the guy is 5'7 and weighs in at 150 lb. i'm 5'6 145lb and i never took steroids, its normal height and weight ratio

[phillybadboy]

boxing is an art,it's not about brute strenght and size,he beats people with skills and speed,beating bigger, stronger guys

[genius]

i think mayweather is trying to hype the fight so they can get bigger coin it, makes for great theatrics non the less

[KiDBaZkiT]

Niether wants to risk losing to the other one. Mayweather knows that Pacqiou has the speed to give him fits. Obviously Pac is on roids or scared to fight Mayweather or he would submit to the test. I am not saying roids give Pac a big advantage but I wouldnt risk my untainted record against someone on roids.

[Gumdog]

mayweather jus trying to win the mind games

[Rod_M]

Please use the proper subsections for each sport

[Gumdog]

what??? do u even knw what happened?? mayweather tried to force pacman to have the test right b4 the fight but pacman declined because he doesnt want mayweather calling the shots and when he previously had a blood test right b4 a fight he felt weaker in teh ring, pacman offered to have the bloodtest right after the fight but mayweather said no.

[phillybadboy]

if we can think pacquiao is on steroids, than we can think anyone is on steroids, there are many great athelets out there including mayweather why would we single out pacquiao?

[phillybadboy]

skills pay the bills,you can give a guy as many steroids as you want, if he dont got skills, he aint gona get it done.

[Kaladarus]

Everyone should be tested. Mayweather was willing to get the exact same test done, its not a big deal. It should be more than obvious that Pacquiao was/still is hiding something. It's impossible for Pacquiao to really think that Mayweather is just taking a shot at him and either way proving he's not on anything makes Mayweather look bad. There is no point in Mayweather fighting a cheater, he doesn't need the money and for his career it's pointless risking legendary status to beat a guy that wont even admit he's on steroids.

[phillybadboy]

Everyone should be tested. Mayweather was willing to get the exact same test done, its not a big deal. It should be more than obvious that Pacquiao was/still is hiding something. It's impossible for Pacquiao to really think that Mayweather is just taking a shot at him and either way proving he's not on anything makes Mayweather look bad. There is no point in Mayweather fighting a cheater, he doesn't need the money and for his career it's pointless risking legendary status to beat a guy that wont even admit he's on steroids.

what makes you think he's on steroids?

[phillybadboy]

Everyone should be tested. Mayweather was willing to get the exact same test done, its not a big deal. It should be more than obvious that Pacquiao was/still is hiding something. It's impossible for Pacquiao to really think that Mayweather is just taking a shot at him and either way proving he's not on anything makes Mayweather look bad. There is no point in Mayweather fighting a cheater, he doesn't need the money and for his career it's pointless risking legendary status to beat a guy that wont even admit he's on steroids.

going by your logic any great athelete is suspect steroids,mayweather,pac,kobe,lebron,kevi n durant, you win boxing with smarts and skills, steroids ain't gona help lebron make baskets, steroids ain't gona help tiger woods put the ball in hole. back up your words bro

[Kaladarus]

going by your logic any great athelete is suspect steroids,mayweather,pac,kobe,lebron,kevi n durant, you win boxing with smarts and skills, steroids ain't gona help lebron make baskets, steroids ain't gona help tiger woods put the ball in hole. back up your words bro

Whats wrong with an athlete being suspect of using steriods? Steroids are performance enhancing drugs. They increase a lot more than just strength.(maybe you should find out what steriods really are so you can back up your words) For you to say steroids aren't going to help any athletes is ridiculous. Many great athletes have been caught using them. In this situation Mayweather is suggesting random olympic drug testing to ALL athletes, that is his opponents and himself. Back up what words? Is it impossible that someone is taking steroids when so many great athletes have been caught using them and Pacquiao refuses a random test. I dont know how it can be any more clear as to what's going on. If anyone is questioned for using steroids the only thing they need to do is take a simple test and clear their name forever, its really not that complicated. It's not like this test harms you in anyway and besides his opponent would be taking it as well.

[RobbReport]

bullshit, pacman doesn't need the juice at this point.

[Ian]

As far as I'm concerned Pacquiao is innocent until proven guilty. He's passed every drug test he's ever been given, and his reasons for not taking a blood test are incredibly legitimate. I'm looking forward to him beating the bejeezus out of Mayweather.

[Preston09]

Yeah Pacman isnt ducking anyone.

[Preston09]

Mayweather is a tool. But a great fighter.

[phillybadboy]

[quote=Kaladarus;3646815]Whats wrong with an athlete being suspect of using steriods? Steroids are performance enhancing drugs. They increase a lot more than just strength.(maybe you should find out what steriods really are so you can back up your words) For you to say steroids aren't going to help any athletes is ridiculous. Many great athletes have been caught using them. In this situation Mayweather is suggesting random olympic drug testing to ALL athletes, that is his opponents and himself. Back up what words? Is it impossible that someone is taking steroids when so many great athletes have been caught using them and Pacquiao refuses a random test. I dont know how it can be any more clear as to what's going on. If anyone is questioned for using steroids the only thing they need to do is take a simple test and clear their name forever, its really not that complicated. It's not like this test harms you in anyway and besides his opponent would be taking it as well.[/qoute

(1)i've been to the doctor and the nurse told me plenty of of peopl pass giving a little bit of blood,my aunt do'nt wana go cause she dont want blood drawn,she thinks it weakens her.

(2)bro i know steroids help you phisically,but what i was trying say is that it's not gona give you skills, i know plenty of guys that take steroids,we play basketball together,they're all huge and cut like rocky but they still stink ,steroids didn't help them shoot

(3)what makes you think pacquiao is on the juice anyways

[Pabinator]

I cant believe people are still so ignorant as to think steriods dont help people.

You have to be stupid not to know you need talent. But when you have talent & combine it with steriods, it turns all-stars into the greatest offensive weapons ever (Barry Bonds)

& believe me people, he wouldnt be taking it if it wasnt helping him. O and he is 100% sure taking it, in due time we will find it all out believe me. Just like 10 years ago when people swore Bonds, Arod & all those other guys were not on them. O but wait, it doesnt help you hit a baseball you need skills.

Idiots

[phillybadboy]

I cant believe people are still so ignorant as to think steriods dont help people.

You have to be stupid not to know you need talent. But when you have talent & combine it with steriods, it turns all-stars into the greatest offensive weapons ever (Barry Bonds)

& believe me people, he wouldnt be taking it if it wasnt helping him. O and he is 100% sure taking it, in due time we will find it all out believe me. Just like 10 years ago when people swore Bonds, Arod & all those other guys were not on them. O but wait, it doesnt help you hit a baseball you need skills.

Idiots

dude we know steroids help, but it's all about skill, if you clottey steroids that night do you think he would've won the fight? shane mosley,fernando vargas,shean shirk,oscar de la hoya all took steroids and they all lost in their fights

dude bonds,ramirez,arod,were all great players before they did the juice,look at Arod last year

[phillybadboy]

if some of you think that pacquiao is on the juice because he is good,then what about mayweather,bj penn,st pierre,fedor,anderson silva, kobe,lebron,dwade,tiger,ryan howard,are all these guys on the juice too? i am not saying if he's on the juice or not i'm just saying like all the other great atheleltes out there, he deserve the same treatment as any other great athlete.

[Pabinator]

Umm all those athletes you mentioned now take blood tests randomly i might add, so yes lets treat him the same. But yes with out steriods he wouldnt be pounding these guys how he is currently. Not saying he wouldnt win, just not as easily. & i promise you he takes something

[phillybadboy]

Umm all those athletes you mentioned now take blood tests randomly i might add, so yes lets treat him the same. But yes with out steriods he wouldnt be pounding these guys how he is currently. Not saying he wouldnt win, just not as easily. & i promise you he takes something

mayweather never took a blood test before did you suspect him throughout his whole career? i'm not saying pac is taking it or not, i just think it's not good to accuse someone just because they're great at what they do. not everyone can do what these athletes can do that's why they get paid more than the average joe

[phillybadboy]

pac is playing by the rules, he's obeying all the current rule in boxing,if that changes then it's something,but for now he doesn't have to be dictated by another fighter,especially when he's on top,he's real hot right now, and he's already rich

[whatsgood5]

He looks way to small to have been juicin'

[phillybadboy]

He looks way to small to have been juicin'

right exactly people sayin he looks big so he must be juice,but he's 5'7 150 lbs thats normal height and weight

[Kaladarus]

He looks way to small to have been juicin'

It's been said already. There are different types of steroids. There's steroids that make you faster and give you quicker reflexes. His size doesn't mean anything really, and it's not really relevant to talk about unless we're talking about a specific type of steroid.

[Kaladarus]

pac is playing by the rules, he's obeying all the current rule in boxing,if that changes then it's something,but for now he doesn't have to be dictated by another fighter,especially when he's on top,he's real hot right now, and he's already rich

So because he can get away with it, it's alright for him to be cheating?

[phillybadboy]

So because he can get away with it, it's alright for him to be cheating?

you're assuming he's cheating, nobody knows for sure if he's cheating or not,nobody knows for if mayweather cheated or not ,it's unfair to single him out

[phillybadboy]

It's been said already. There are different types of steroids. There's steroids that make you faster and give you quicker reflexes. His size doesn't mean anything really, and it's not really relevant to talk about unless we're talking about a specific type of steroid.

pacquiao for the last 10 years since he came into boxing has always had good power,great speed,great stamina,great reflxes, it's not like he's a bum and within a year or so recently became great,he's always had great athletic abilities