tired of overrated GSP...

thezzzone · 01-27-10, 01:24 PM

If we wanna talk about over-rated,,,its definitely FEDOR!!!!

Pabinator · 01-27-10, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by thezzzone

If we wanna talk about over-rated,,,its definitely FEDOR!!!!

I agree

JMUplayer · 01-27-10, 04:49 PM

Why do people even think Pride was on the same level as UFC... Other than rampage all the "stars" have gotten their ass handed to them when the cross the pond.

jin2daj · 01-27-10, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by JMUplayer

Why do people even think Pride was on the same level as UFC... Other than rampage all the "stars" have gotten their ass handed to them when the cross the pond.

this should really be the end of the discussion. I loved pride when it was still around but seriously, its as though pride fighters are conquering the ufc at all.

gsp is a great athlete and you cant use finishing opponents as any means of determining a fighter's dominance. GSP's wrestling is the absolute best in the UFC in any division and that is what people give him credit for, his hard working mentality and his modesty are also very likable attributes. Its very easy to make an arguement against a certain fighter, for instance, fedor was losing to arlovski before throwing that haymaker, and i thought he lost round 1 to brett in his most recent fight. GSP on the other hand dominates his fights from beginning to end.

its your own opinion as to whether hes a top p4p fighter, i personally have fedor at #4 with silva, gsp, and bj ahead of him.

kahnner · 01-28-10, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by jin2daj

this should really be the end of the discussion. I loved pride when it was still around but seriously, its as though pride fighters are conquering the ufc at all.

gsp is a great athlete and you cant use finishing opponents as any means of determining a fighter's dominance. GSP's
wrestling is the absolute best in the UFC in any division and that is what people give him credit for, his hard working mentality
and his modesty are also very likable attributes. Its very easy to make an arguement against a certain fighter, for instance, fedor was losing to arlovski before throwing that haymaker, and i thought he lost round 1 to brett in his most recent fight. GSP on the other hand dominates his fights from beginning to end.

its your own opinion as to whether hes a top p4p fighter, i personally have fedor at #4 with silva, gsp, and bj ahead of him.

finally somebody that knows what he's talking about!
Totally agree with you!

NicksPicks · 01-29-10, 11:58 PM

GSP absolutely dominates everyone he fights, nobody but Silva does it better. How can you even compare GSP to BJ Penn? That little bitch got raped so bad by GSP that his corner had to throw in the towel! Nobody else managed to do that to BJ. Clearly the guy who started this tkread doesn't know anything about MMA!

Tree Rollins · 01-30-10, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by NicksPicks

GSP absolutely dominates everyone he fights, nobody but Silva does it better. How can you even compare GSP to BJ Penn? That little bitch got raped so bad by GSP that his corner had to throw in the towel! Nobody else managed to do that to BJ. Clearly the guy who started this tkread doesn't know anything about MMA!

Yeah.

Collegepays · 01-30-10, 01:50 AM

It's not that Pride wasn't great or the fighter's weren't great, but you have to look at the fact that they didn't drug test in Japan. There is no telling what those dudes were taking over there

NicksPicks · 01-30-10, 08:15 AM

The guy who started this thread prob thinks Hershel Walker will be the next Andreson Silva.

playa420 · 02-04-10, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by thezzzone

If we wanna talk about over-rated,,,its definitely FEDOR!!!!

Are you serious dude? Fedor is pound for pound one of the best fighters in the world, hes 31-1 and the loss was a fluke cut which he avenged in dominate fashion. Hes easily beaten all the past and present ufc fighters hes faced, and he would knock Brock Lesnar the **** out if that fight ever happens!!!

knownone · 02-05-10, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by NicksPicks

GSP absolutely dominates everyone he fights, nobody but Silva does it better. How can you even compare GSP to BJ Penn? That little bitch got raped so bad by GSP that his corner had to throw in the towel! Nobody else managed to do that to BJ. Clearly the guy who started this tkread doesn't know anything about MMA!

GSP has 40 pounds on BJ...

It's like saying Lesnar is better P4P than Silva.

Pride>UFC · 02-16-10, 05:11 PM

ok doochebags who live in mom's basement and pop their pimples for a hobby, time to get pwned!

GSP= lost to Matt Serra, not in the top 20, since then, he's afraid to stand with anyone and can't finish a good fighter unless he weighs 30 lbs less

Fedor= never lost, has fought the best (Nog 2x, prime CroCop, Rogers, Arlovski, Sylvia)

Anderson Silva= hasn't lost in over 5 years and has beaten the best and even crappy fighters like Forrest (Hendo, Nate, Franklin x2)

BJ= hasn't lost a lightweight fight in almost a decade and has a victory over the greatest WW of all-time while in his prime, not to mention a split decision loss that should've been a win vs GSP. Cleaned out lightweight division without breaking a sweat...

Pride>UFC · 02-16-10, 05:12 PM

1. Fedor
2. BJ
3. Spider
4. Shogun
5. Rampage
6. Mousasi
7. GSP

THE_LOCKSMITH · 02-16-10, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by Pride>UFC

1. Fedor
2. BJ
3. Spider
4. Shogun
5. Rampage
6. Mousasi
7. GSP

4. Shogun 5.Rampage??? they both got owned by Griffin

Pride>UFC · 02-16-10, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

4. Shogun 5.Rampage??? they both got owned by Griffin

Forrest owned by one dimensional Tito 8 years past prime x2

.

Shogun's knee was torn and Rampage didn't lose...thanks for trying though, now go eat pastries and pastrami wonderbread...

THE_LOCKSMITH · 02-16-10, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Pride>UFC

Forrest owned by one dimensional Tito 8 years past prime x2

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Shogun's knee was torn and Rampage didn't lose...thanks for trying though, now go eat pastries and pastrami wonderbread...

Correct that very same Griffin Owned ShoGun and Rampage

Pride>UFC · 02-16-10, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

Correct that very same Griffin Owned ShoGun and Rampage

If Forrest is so good how come he can't beat Tito 10 years past his prime lol?

He taps out, all white guys tap to strikes...they got no heart...

Rashad>Forrest
Tito>Forrest (x2)
Spider>Forrest
Jeremy Horn> Forrest
Dan Severn> Forrest

THE_LOCKSMITH · 02-16-10, 05:39 PM

Rashad>Forrest>ShoGun>Rampahe
Tito>Forrest (x2)>ShoGun>Rampeg
Spider>Forrest>ShoGun>Rampage
Jeremy Horn> Forrest>ShoGun>Rampage
Dan Severn> Forrest>ShoGun>Rampage

Pride>UFC · 02-16-10, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

Rashad>Forrest>ShoGun>Rampahe Tito>Forrest (x2)>ShoGun>Rampeg Spider>Forrest>ShoGun>Rampage Jeremy Horn> Forrest>ShoGun>Rampage Dan Severn> Forrest>ShoGun>Rampage

lol yeah because Forrest is still relevant and in anyone's top 10 huh...that's like me saying that

Serra>GSP>Penn even though Penn beat Serra.

Are you white guys still mad that all the Pride guys took over the UFC?

THE_LOCKSMITH · 02-16-10, 05:52 PM

no no no, GSP got that loss back in the rematch and everyone knows Serra had cracked skull when he fought Penn so this would be more accurate

GSP>Serra>Penn

Pride>UFC · 02-16-10, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

no no no, GSP got that loss back in the rematch and everyone knows Serra had cracked skull when he fought Penn so this would be more accurate GSP>Serra>Penn

But GSP greased against Serra the 2nd time and Hughes, so technically those fights don't count, only his loss to Serra counts, not his win...
tito had a cracked skull against Forrest and he beat him, so what does that mean?

Does that mean

Tito with cracked skull> Forrest>Shogun>Rampage?

I guess I can accept that...despite the fact that Rampage and Shogun are probably the two best lhws lol

THE_LOCKSMITH · 02-16-10, 06:08 PM

yea he greased, nothing wrong with that, everyone does it, so we are in agreement

Liddell>Tito with cracked skull> Forrest>Shogun>Rampage

Pride>UFC · 02-16-10, 06:15 PM

damnit, we gotta start over...Liddell can't > Shogun and Chuck...

Enson Inoue and Valentin Overeem>Randy>Tito (with cracked skull)>Forrest>Shogun>Rampage>Hendo>Fran klin>Quarry>Kalib Starnes

or how about

Nick Diaz> Lawler>Trigg>Misaki>Hendo>Wanderlei>Croc op (Wand beat crocop the 1st time)> Randleman> (slammed Fedor on his head) Fedor

THE_LOCKSMITH · 02-16-10, 06:21 PM

lol

, i think i've made my point. Lose the "greater than" sign

Pride>UFC · 02-16-10, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

lol

, i think i've made my point. Lose the "greater than" sign

ok now I have to get serious...

Gomi>Pulver
Spider>All UFC middleweights
Fedor>Nog>all UFC heavyweights
Rampage> all ufc lhws

All except Fedor were the 2nd best in pride, and they own the UFC, what does that say?

THE_LOCKSMITH · 02-16-10, 06:31 PM

Gomi>Pulver agree
Spider>All UFC middleweights agree
Fedor>Nog>all UFC heavyweights negative Mir>Nog, Velasquez>Nog
Rampage> all ufc lhws negative Griffin>Rampage Evans>Rampage

Pride>UFC · 02-16-10, 06:31 PM

I forgot to mention that
Fedor and Nog, #1 and 2, beat the best UFC heavyweight of all time, not to mention Fedor beat AA.
Shogun and Rampage, #2 and #3 in pride, beat Chuck 3 times.
Silva and Hendo, 1 and 2, beat Franklin, the greatest UFC MW of all time.
and BJ's not really a UFC fighter because he's too exciting.

UFC fighters are only white guys (cans)with no power (Bonnar, Griffin, Spencer Fisher, Tyson Griffin, maynard, etc)

I win

Pride>UFC · 02-16-10, 06:33 PM

my bad I meant to say

Shogun> Rampage> all UFC lhws...