STRIKEFORCE: Miami - Diaz vs Zaromskis

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Lawler at +175 is worht a look. His last couple losses were to Shields and miller by sub, him and manhoef will be a slugfest

[Busterflywheel]

Diaz takes this no problem...

[The HOFF]

A rumored bout between heavyweights Wes Sims (22-12-1 MMA, 0-0 SF) and Bobby Lashley (4-0 MMA, 0-0 SF) finally has materialized for next week's "Strikeforce: Miami" card, sources close to MMAjunkie.com today confirmed.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Wes blows, he didn't even get another fight at TUF 10 finale

[clarkd32]

Sims isn't the greatest but will bring a lot of experience to the fight...

[shady610]

i like lawler at that price

[Busterflywheel]

Wheres the fight?

[Educ8d Degener8]

This is the best welterweight matchup in years..

LOL

Remember, we don't know ANYTHING about how good Zaromskis is, he might be ranked #2 welterweight in the world with a win here...

Unlikely, considering two of the L's on his record are from TUF cast-off Che Mills. Even more so by the logic you have presented in your "GSP stinks" thread; Zaromskis having TWO losses at the hands of a subpar opponent in the past three years must be a really overrated figher... I mean it is your theory after all.

(I'm a fan of Zaromskis fights as they are entertaining, but even suggesting he's near the top 5 WW in the world is a bit of a hyperbole at this point)

[terpkeg]

Wheres the fight?

Miami

[clarkd32]

that is a nice price on lawler...i'll be on it for at least a small bet

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

the previously untelevised welterweight showdown between rough-and-tumble brawlers, Joe Riggs (32-10) and Jay Hieron (18-4), will air live on EASports.com at 9:05 ET on Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010

http://www.mmamania.com/2010/1/25/1269761/report-joe-riggs-vs-jay-hieron-to

[Tree Rollins]

A rumored bout between heavyweights Wes Sims (22-12-1 MMA, 0-0 SF) and Bobby Lashley (4-0 MMA, 0-0 SF) finally has materialized for next week's "Strikeforce: Miami" card, sources close to MMAjunkie.com today confirmed.

Sims has a lot of experience and has won some big fights, but at this point, you can stick a fork in Wes Sims. Still, he's probably the best guy Lashley has fought which isn't saying much. Lashley is a huge guy and a good wrestler, i don't know why they are so afraid of giving him a tough opponent. He's a big boy, he can handle himself.

[Busterflywheel]

Sims has a lot of experience and has won some big fights, but at this point, you can stick a fork in Wes Sims. Still, he's probably the best guy Lashley has fought which isn't saying much. Lashley is a huge guy and a good wrestler, i don't know why they are so afraid of giving him a tough opponent. He's a big boy, he can handle himself.

Ive asked myself this before..

[JohnGalt2341]

Anyone know anything about Greg Nagy? I'm thinking about putting Herschel in my parlay but I haven't seen either guy fight which makes me hesitant.

[Tree Rollins]

Anyone know anything about Greg Nagy? I'm thinking about putting Herschel in my parlay but I haven't seen either guy fight which makes me hesitant.

I don't know much about nagy but i imagine strikeforce is babying herschel along the same way they are Lashley. Strikeforce has a couple few names and they don't want to ruin them by making them actually fight good fighters. Either way, herschel has 14 personalities and is nearly 50 years old. He'll probably win, but if you're parlaying him, don't get serious with the money.

[Collegepays]

Nagy's trainer says:
Greg is 1-1, he's a good-looking kid. I'd say he's a bit more advanced than Herschel, but not by much. I thought it was a good matchup.""Listen, in terms of athleticism, there's no comparison. Even at 47, Herschel's a tremendous athlete. But Greg's fearless. I don't know why, but our gym breeds these kinds of guys. They have no fear. At that age, they think they can walk through steel and bullets."

My official parlay is Diaz, Walker, Cyborg, and Lashley
Lawler's ML has good value because Manhoef has basically admitted that he has completely stopped training the ground game.

[butt rock hero]

Where are you getting odds on Lashley?

[Educ8d Degener8]

Where are you getting odds on Lashley?

I'd like to know this as well, as I haven't seen a single book post 'em yet...

[The HOFF]

Five days from the first bell of the Jan. 30 event, "Strikeforce: Miami," the promotion has taken extra steps to ensure a welterweight clash between Jay Hieron and Joe Riggs can be widely seen.

EA Sports, the software developer of video game "EA Sports MMA" and a strategic partner of the San Jose, Calif.–based Strikeforce promotion, announced today via Twitter that it will stream the preliminary card fight live on EASportsMMA.com. The stream begins at 9 p.m. ET and will be the sole undercard fight broadcast on the web.

[RobbReport]

Lawler at +175 is worht a look. His last couple losses were to Shields and miller by sub, him and manhoef will be a slugfest

Riggs can beat Heiron.



not saying he will, but definitely won't be a pushover.

[Collegepays]

On that Lashley pick I had up I'm just assuming that at some point that fight will be added

[urge2kill]

Lashley -900 on Bodog now.

[Kaladarus]

Lashley is up on a couple of sites -850 to -900 so far. Hard to make a play with that line. Lashley will probably win, but hes not experienced enough to place a bet on at that price in my opinion.

[Collegepays]

Damn that's a stay away then. I know Lashley is a monster but the dude couldn't even finish Jason Guida.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Zaromskis will be a good test for Diaz. Right now i think he may be over rated with those blowout wins over Shamrcok and Smith, who in my opinion are no better than C level fighters. A solid win here for the StrikeForce WW title may put him in the top 10 overall WW rankings

[Educ8d Degener8]

Lashley is up on a couple of sites -850 to -900 so far. Hard to make a play with that line. Lashley will probably win, but hes not experienced enough to place a bet on at that price in my opinion.

100% agree with that.

[Collegepays]

Diaz is going to pick Zaromskis apart guys, don't get into the youtube highlight reel hype.

[Bal]

I have no idea why people here are jumping on Lawlers balls.


Melvin is extremely explosive and way better striker than Lawler.

Melvin by KO

[RobbReport]

I think there is value in Riggs, not lawlor.

[Bal]

well that's good to hear

[JohnGalt2341]

Nagy's trainer says:
Greg is 1-1, he's a good-looking kid. I'd say he's a bit more advanced than Herschel, but not by much. I thought it was a good matchup.""Listen, in terms of athleticism, there's no comparison. Even at 47, Herschel's a tremendous athlete. But Greg's fearless. I don't know why, but our gym breeds these kinds of guys. They have no fear. At that age, they think they can walk through steel and bullets."

My official parlay is Diaz, Walker, Cyborg, and Lashley
Lawler's ML has good value because Manhoef has basically admitted that he has completely stopped training the ground game.

Rock solid. Even though they are all favorites I don't see an upset happening unless Walker can't take a punch and gets caught or Diaz decides he wants to stand the whole fight he could possibly lose a decision. I also like Jay Heiron over Riggs. I'm really looking forward to Lawler vs Manhoef. I hope it's not on when I'm out of the room for 10 seconds.

[clarkd32]

Lashley -900 is hilarious.... how has he looked in his first 4 fights and when was his last fight? I'm too lazy to look it up right now...

[Juve11]

Lashley -900 is hilarious.... how has he looked in his first 4 fights and when was his last fight? I'm too lazy to look it up right now...

This fight is dangerous for Sims. Lashley may kill him Guida is tough and has heart and Lashleys ground skills have improved alot since this fight. I realy hope Wes has trained for this!

[Educ8d Degener8]

... I realy hope Wes has trained for this!

Sims should be ready... He's had two week's notice for this fight

[butt rock hero]

-1200 on Lashley now lol.