Pacquiao/Mayweather?

shady610 · 09-21-09, 02:11 PM

didnt get to see this but from what i know about pacqiao, he will fight anyone but will make the negotiations as dramatic as he can.

also, mosely looks like he just wanted to set up a fight with money. I dont blame him, but i really think he knows that he cant beat floyd. he wont be able to hit floyd. cant win without hitting

arvzprince · 09-22-09, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by hockey216

You all catch the postgame interview? Asshole interviewer kept interrupting floyd and hammering him with questions he refused to answer. Floyd got pissed. Then Mosley jumps in and interrupts his interview and gets Floyd heated. Floyd grabbed mic from announcer and said "The thing is this. Imma do the talking cuz you do too much talking." Interviewer terminated interview.

I'm with you on it...

Interviewer

TheGovernor11 · 09-23-09, 12:31 PM

I don't think Pacquiao/Mayweather is going to happen because neither side will agree to terms. Mayweather will refuse to take a 50/50 split because he thinks he's the bigger draw. Pacquiao (and by Pacquiao I mean Freddie Roach) would agree to a 50/50 split but is going to want the fight to take place at a catch weight of around 140-142. Mayweather might completely disregard the weight like he did his last fight but I'm sure Roach will have some stipulation that's much greater than 100k a pound (like a million a pound).

I personally like the matchup of Mayweather/Mosley more than Mayweather/Pacquiao. When's the last time Mayweather fought a welterweight who could match or at least be close to his speed and size? Judah? Mayweather ducks to many tough fights that it's ridiculous. He already has the skill advantage over 99% of boxers but he also needs to have size and speed? He may be the best defensive boxer of all time but I will always despise him until he stops ducking the welterweights in his class.

illmatick · 09-23-09, 02:09 PM

anyone who thinks pacquiao has a good chance vs mayweather is fooling themselves, Cotto vs pacquiao is a much better fight, odds warrant a small play on cotto

THEGREAT30 · 09-23-09, 02:50 PM

Pacquiao is a fad. He has already lost 3 times. The way he fights is a fad and will not work against an extremely skilled guy like Mayweather. Pacquiao lost to Marquez IMO. So, I laugh at people thinking that would be worth watching or even handing out 2 guys around 20 mill. Furthermore, anyone claiming Mayweather ducks either does not understand business or does not like the guy. You can not take on everyone that wants to fight you when you get to star status,it is totally impossible. So, someone will always feel left-out or ducked.

moses millsap · 09-23-09, 03:04 PM

Manny is overrated by a lot. Hope Cotto takes him out, but if he doesn't, PBF will get the job done no problemo.

TheGovernor11 · 09-23-09, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by illmatick

anyone who thinks pacquiao has a good chance vs mayweather is fooling themselves, Cotto vs pacquiao is a much better fight, odds warrant a small play on cotto

Unfortunately I agree. I think he's too small for Mayweather and would even consider a small play on Cotto if his odds increased.

Originally posted by THEGREAT30

Pacquiao is a fad. He has already lost 3 times. The way he fights is a fad and will not work against an extremely skilled guy like Mayweather. Pacquiao lost to Marquez IMO. So, I laugh at people thinking that would be worth watching or even handing out 2 guys around 20 mill. Furthermore, anyone claiming Mayweather ducks either does not understand business or does not like the guy. You can not take on everyone that wants to fight you when you get to star status,it is totally impossible. So, someone will always feel left-out or ducked.

Claiming that I don't know the business because I say Mayweather is ducking people completely contradicts itself. I know he's ducking people because I know that's how boxing works. He wants to protect his "star status" by not taking any chances while making the most money. This isn't like Roy Jones Jr in the early 90s where he had no one to fight. Mayweather has guys to fight in his weight class who have earned the right to fight him. He just doesn't want to take chances that he doesn't need to when he can make the same amount of money. If you don't think he's ducked opponents then tell me who has he fought? His tactics won't hurt his bankroll but it sure as hell will hurt his legacy.

And yeah, Manny Pacquiao is just a six year fad... stop looking at BoxRec and start following the sport.

THEGREAT30 · 09-24-09, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by TheGovernor11

Unfortunately I agree. I think he's too small for Mayweather and would even consider a small play on Cotto if his odds increased.

Claiming that I don't know the business because I say Mayweather is ducking people completely contradicts itself. I know he's ducking people because I know that's how boxing works. He wants to protect his "star status" by not taking any chances while making the most money. This isn't like Roy Jones Jr in the early 90s where he had no one to fight. Mayweather has guys to fight in his weight class who have earned the right to fight him. He just doesn't want to take chances that he doesn't need to when he can make the same amount of money. If you don't think he's ducked opponents then tell me who has he fought? His tactics won't hurt his bankroll but it sure as hell will hurt his legacy.

And yeah, Manny Pacquiao is just a six year fad... stop looking at BoxRec and start following the sport.

Pacquiao is a fad or trendy pick simply because he is being overrated and overhyped by the media. On the ducking point, there is always gonna be someone that feels like you are ducking them can't fight everyone. He faught Oscar, Hatton, and Marquez all recently. Who has Pac fought of any substance? We all see the guy he lost to twice in Marquez is not of any substance and I venture to say the 3 official loses he has have been to people that would look stupid in the ring with Mayweather. He has loss 5 times the guy is not even worthy of asking for a 50/50 split with a guy that has never lost. On the business side of it I'm with Mayweather, no way this bum deserve a 50/50 split.

TheGovernor11 · 09-24-09, 03:58 AM

So if Mayweather fights DLH, Hatton, Marquez they are fights of substance but if Pacquiao does they're not?... Of the three fighters you named, only one was in his division who was way past his prime. Mayweather picks and chooses his fights based on minimum risk and maximum money. If it was only one fighter he wasn't fighting then yes, you can make that case that he can't fight everyone. But he's refused fights against Williams, Mosley, Margarito, and Cotto, which is the top welterweights who have earned the right to fight him.

Who has Pacquiao fought? Just the top fighters in his weight class along with the top (at the time) 140 lb fighter. Wish that could be said about Mayweather. I'm not disagreeing that P4P Mayweather is the better fighter. I'm just saying your arguments are retarded.

hockey216 · 09-27-09, 12:47 PM

Mayweather is a businessman. They don't call him "money mayweather" for nothing.

Mayweather wants over 10 million for his fights. he's willing to fight whoever will bring that to the table. Mayweather said in an interview with brian kenny that shane mosely is not a PPV attraction. Everyone knows Mosley will not match the speed of mayweather. mayweather will dominate mosley.

Mayweather is in it for the MONEY. Hence, his name "Money Mayweather." if he's not gonna make 8figures, he's gonna look for a fight that will give him 8 figures. Mayweather does not feel he's at a stage where he needs to prove himself. He feels he already proved himself. He wants 8 figures for his fights and feels mosley isn't a ppv attraction and feels pacquiao is a lunatic for trying to get a 50/50 split.

shady610 · 09-27-09, 03:34 PM

not sure how this would go. i imagnine the fight will end in manny being knocked out. i see manny coming in way too agressive and when floyd figures his timing, circles to right and drops him with a hook

Pabinator · 10-06-09, 02:12 AM

I dont care about nothing but this fight has to happen! I dont care if it is a joke of a fight with Mayweather running around again for 12 rounds (which by the way i dont think its his fault he cant be hit)

Its the 2 top guys in the sport, in the primes of their careers. This fight has to happen, its been a long time since boxing had 2 big names who actually were still good fight.

Not saying the fight would be a good one, but its better than watching Mayweather fight Marquez (absolute joke) or watching Manny fight the real Money Delahoya (biggest joke of a fight ever, drained or not, you dont just forget how to do anything in the ring, you know how many fights you have if your a golden gloves??? No heart that fruit)

I also hope Manny makes it by Cotto with a 2nd round KO so the hype comes back and I take all your guys money when Mayweather runs from him for 12 rounds

Boddhissatva · 10-06-09, 02:16 PM

Pacman is going to destroy Cotto...

But PBF...especially after his last performance....the man looks as close to perfect as I've ever seen.

Boddhissatva · 10-06-09, 02:24 PM

[quote=THEGREAT30;2279193]Pacquiao is a fad. He has already lost 3 times. The way he fights is a fad and will not work against an extremely skilled guy like Mayweather. quote]

Pacman is no fad...and his style is no fad either...he brawls as well as he boxes...in the tradition of Duran, Meldrick Taylor, Alexis Arguello, Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas hearns etc.

Pacman has a huge fan base precisely because he's a very dynamic, exciting fighter...not to mention he has one of the most impressive resumes in boxing...

Three Fights with Morales..
2 wars with with JMM.
2 beatings of Marco Barrera (1st fight being absolute underdog)
Crushed Ricky Hatton
Destroyed DLH...

And Pacman will destroy Miguell Cotto as well.

Pabinator · 10-07-09, 12:51 PM

I hope your right and he does beat Cotto, I wanna see the two best GO

thezzone · 10-08-09, 12:38 AM

The Pacman WILL beat Cotto...Mayweather should try someone in his weight class as was mentioned...he would have all he could handle in Mosley...I say Mosley hands him his first loss..my guess though is THAT fight never happens..Mayweather will stick with the "little guys.

Pabinator · 10-08-09, 11:25 AM

I think Mosley will beat MMW, but I still wanna see the two top guys in the sport go at it, its the big money fight, Pacman vs the guy who beat the big show.

I hope you guys are right about this Manny beating Cotto

obcalif · 10-14-09, 01:40 AM

Can Freddie get his head back into the game? He went to camp late because of all the disasters in country. He's looking into politics. If Cotto beats him, does he really need to fight or want to fight again? Floyd is bigger and ring smart. Not like Manny, who would probably chase him around the ring all night and not catch up .... boring fight. Probably a good payday for both ... but boring .... unless Mayweather wants to mix it up. I doubt it, as he would not want his pretty face or ribs hit that hard. Mayweather should have waited another minute and taken this fight. He beat MM who also beat Pacman, except for gettting Knocked to the canvas 1X. Just my two cintavos worth. Has Floyd ever wanted to fight anyone. He's a great boxer and Manny is a great fighter. There's a difference ... Diba ?

Pabinator · 10-14-09, 12:01 PM

Boxing has to put this fight together (if Manny beats Miguel)

thezzone · 10-15-09, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Pabinator

Boxing has to put this fight together (if Manny beats Miguel)

no "IF'S" about manny beating Cotto as far as I'm concerned...

Czu81 · 10-25-09, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by Pabinator

Boxing has to put this fight together (if Manny beats Miguel)

would be great for the fight fans.

moses millsap · 10-25-09, 12:52 PM

Cotto to kill Manny, please one time

Mac4Lyfe · 10-25-09, 12:59 PM

I think Manny/Cotto is going to be a tough fight. I hope Manny survives but it won't be easy IMO.

If I'm PBF, no way in hell would I fight Shane Mosely after he acted like a bitch after Mayweather's win. Most of all, Shane is a lousy draw and there's not enough money to be made. Get your money Floyd.

Czu81 · 10-26-09, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

I think Manny/Cotto is going to be a tough fight.

this...

Shane Mosley still world class boxer...

shantystar · 10-26-09, 02:11 PM

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