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  • Eccocide
    SBR MVP
    • 01-12-09
    • 2126

    #1
    Eccocide's UFN 19 Picks
    Well we start off a busy week of UFC action with UFN 19 leading into Black on Black Crime (TUF 10). I usually don’t do as well on these TV cards compared to PPV (don’t ask why?) so I’ll tread a little lightly here. In all truthfulness, there’s not a whole lot I like on this card from a value perspective, so I’ll go square and parlay some fav’s to start!


    Carlos Condit vs. Jake Ellenberger:

    Condit is one mean/angry dude. I mean, have you seen the look on this guy’s face in stare downs and the moments leading up to the fight? It kinda makes me feel like I want to curl up in the fetal position and call for mommy. What’s that have to do with the fight? Not much but I thought I’d throw it out there because there’s not much analysis to do in this fight. I don’t really see any areas where Ellenberger can win this fight. From what I’ve seen he is a tough dude with some good power in his hands and decent wrestling. But I don’t think that will be enough to get a win over Condit. Carlos is no slouch in the standup as he showed against an excellent Muay Thai fighter in Martin Kampmann and I really don’t think Ellenberger will want to take a chance taking this fight to the ground with Condit’s slick submissions, especially from his back. With that all said I like Condit to control this fight from start to finish. Expect to see a whole lotta this pre-fight.





    Grey Maynard vs. Roger Huerta

    Here we have a soon-to-be top contender vs. a soon-to-be wannabe movie star. Ever since his double knockout draw with Rob Emerson, Gray Maynard has been on a tear rattling off 5 straight wins, albeit most of them by way of decision. But these aren’t your typical decisions – Maynard has totally dominated all of his opponents using his outstanding takedowns and top-control. I don’t see anything different in this fight. Roger has decided he no longer wants to be a “F**ckin Fighter” and is going Hollywood. Take a look at his first movie character…I didn’t know this was the Bruno version of Tekken:



    So this is Dana White’s going away present for him. Huerta had difficulty stopping the takedown attempts of Clay Guida, so I don’t see what he will have to offer versus a much superior wrestler in Gray Maynard. Maynard may surprise some folks here and actually finish a fight! Maynard by TKO.


    Brock Larson vs. Mike Pierce

    Not going to do too much of a write-up here as I don’t know much of anything with respect to Pierce. I usually try to stay away from fights with fighters I’ve haven’t seen much of but I’ll take my chances based on what I know about Larson – he’s one ugly looking guy who knows how fight. Can’t go wrong with that combination!


    My Pick: 3 fight Parlay – Maynard/Condit/Larson (-105) 2.63 units to win 2.5 units



    Chris Wilson vs Mike Pyle:

    The one fight that I do see value in is this one. Mike Pyle is a journeyman fighter who has some good wins and some average losses. He’s been pretty inconsistent but has done well to win 4 of his last 5 fights since losing to Jake Shields back in the EliteXC era. He has been pretty much a one-trick pony with 15 of 17 wins by submission although he primarily has a wrestling background – funny thing to note is that 4 of his 6 losses have also come by decision. I guess he lives and dies by the sword as they say. As for Chris Wilson, he’s had a mixed bag of results since he joined the UFC. He was extremely impressive in a loss in his UFC debut vs Jon Fitch, but hasn’t been quite as impressive in his last 2 fights. He has pretty good standup which I think will give Pyle trouble. Wilson has a lot riding on this fight; He hasn’t fought since a loss in January due to some extreme circumstances with his family being held at gunpoint in Brazil (YIKES!) and some medical clearance issues. I think he will perform under pressure and put everything he has into this fight, picking apart Pyle in the standup while avoiding the takedowns.

    My Pick: Chris Wilson (+115) 1.5 units to win 1.725 units




    Sam Stout vs. Phillipe Nover:

    Warning! Warning! Canadian bias alert! Let me start by saying, I dunno what happened to my boy Sam – he needs to trade in his nickname as he’s only had 1 KO win along with 4 decisions in his last 5 fights. Where’d the stones go dude? Where’d they go? Well, It won’t matter here as he’s taking on an undersized Filippino in TUF runner-up Nover. Nover was touted to be the 155lb version of Anderson Silva by Dana White during the taping of TUF – can you say hype machine? The guy shoulda stuck to nursing!!!



    Since then, he hasn’t shown much of anything. He was tossed around by Efrain and TKO’d (albeit questionable) by Kyle Bradley. I honestly think he would be better to go the route of Manny Gamburyan and move down to WEC’s 145lb division. I don’t see Stout having trouble with Nover here as I believe he has a solid advantage in the standup where I think this fight will stay. I see this going the same route as Stout’s last fight against Wiman – a solid unanimous decision.

    My Pick: Sam Stout (-185) 2 units to win 1.1 units


    Melvin Guillard vs. Nate Diaz

    Well I’m going to take a shot in the dark here. I know Guillard weaknesses – I know he couldn’t keep his limbs out of a submission if his life depended on it. I know Nate Diaz has amazing submissions, especially from his back. In spite of all of this, I’m going to make a small play on Guillard. He did look better defending on the ground and made use of his wrestling against Tibau (although I still believe he lost that fight, but that’s neither here nor there). I’m hoping he’s smart enough to keep this standing as I believe he has the better standup game, not only with his power but in his diversity. I also believe his takedown defense will be good enough to keep Diaz from taking him to the ground. As well, Diaz is known for not minding mixing it up on his feet, even though that isn’t his strength. Here’s hoping Melvin fights a smart fight………ugh.

    My Pick: Melvin Guillard (+210) 0.5 units to win 1.05 units

    Thats all I got for now. Degenerate parlays are sure to follow.
  • The HOFF
    SBR MVP
    • 07-02-08
    • 4847

    #2
    Chris Wilson (+115)
    Melvin Guillard (+210)

    I don't see much of anything I like on this card either. I was going to make a play on Wilson and a tiny play on Guillard.
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    • Boddhissatva
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 04-10-09
      • 655

      #3
      I agree 100 percent with all your picks...

      I made a small wager on Guillard for the upset.

      Diaz has trouble with bigger, stronger wrestlers...but he also gets submitted by nearly everyone.
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      • Eccocide
        SBR MVP
        • 01-12-09
        • 2126

        #4
        Originally posted by The HOFF
        Chris Wilson (+115)
        Melvin Guillard (+210)

        I don't see much of anything I like on this card either. I was going to make a play on Wilson and a tiny play on Guillard.
        Ya I hear ya Hoff. I think a lot of these fights are 'showcase' fights where they are trying to push guys over - ala Condit, Maynard. There's some juicy dogs I like at 103 though but lets get through this first .
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        • illmatick
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-05-09
          • 5456

          #5
          good luck!! I feel like adding melvin in a few parlays
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          • Bread
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-16-08
            • 23726

            #6
            Nice write up once again Ecco. Just posted mine and read yours for first time and it almost looks like I plagiarized your opinion on the Guillard-Diaz fight...lol.

            FIGHT SMART MELVIN FIGHT SMART! WE NEED A WINNA!! DON'T GET CAUGHT IN THOSE HELICOPTER ARMS AND LEGS SON!!!

            With you on Melvin and Gray.
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            • Eccocide
              SBR MVP
              • 01-12-09
              • 2126

              #7
              Thanks Guys!

              Bodd - Well I hope for your sake and mine that this is a good night!

              Ill - GL 2 u 2 Still checkin out your Jensen pick, may add it in.

              Bread - I think we are in trouble when we use the words 'smart' and 'Melvin' in the same sentence . But may the Melvin be with us!!
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              • JMUplayer
                SBR MVP
                • 08-27-09
                • 2765

                #8
                Maynard might be the most boring fighter out there...... Lay n Pray
                Instead of "the bully" maybe "the decision" would be a better nickname
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                • Bread
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-16-08
                  • 23726

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JMUplayer
                  Maynard might be the most boring fighter out there...... Lay n Pray
                  Instead of "the bully" maybe "the decision" would be a better nickname

                  Nice. That still wouldn't rank as one of the 500 worst UFC nicknames. There are some real doozies out there.
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                  • The HOFF
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-02-08
                    • 4847

                    #10
                    Gray "The Decision" Maynard. That's awesome.
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                    • Rustyglobes
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-24-08
                      • 549

                      #11
                      I'm telling you all now Huerta will be ready for "the decision" tonight.

                      He is explosive, powerful and best of all fights with heart and pride, even if he is leaving to go and act. But don't let this fool you Florian is no joke who he lost to and guida is a warrior from cave man times who he knocked the f out. Gray will have his same old boring game plan ready for this one but remember things wont always go to plan, especially against a guy of the calibre of Huerta.

                      I honestly think this is the biggest fight of these two mens careers because on the one hand if gray loses all his credibility and ranking for title contention will suffer massively as we have seen in the past with up and comers and for Huerta this is his supposed last fight and are you seriously telling me that this guy is just going to lay down and let the last memory of him in the UFC be the chump who got beat up by maynard and then ran away to act?? Hell No...

                      Roger is paying very nicely in this bout and situationaly it makes sense to play him, and if theres ever a sport where the dog has a good of a chance of getting up its definately combat sports especially when the dog is of the quality of Huerta. thats my 2 cents worth.

                      So don't be suprised when Roger gets up tonight because you know deep down he is better then maynard even if you hate the fact he is leaving the sport to go and act.... Also if he wins this is better news for Dayna as there will be more hype around getting the man back in the octagon for a new contract and as we all know early retirements if you want to call it that never last, just look at who won the US Open. Dont ever discount the underdog it would be monetary suicide as all cotoure fans recently found out.
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                      • Bread
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-16-08
                        • 23726

                        #12
                        Crazier shit has happened Rusty. But probably not tonight...
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                        • brooks85
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-05-09
                          • 44709

                          #13
                          Huerta struggled against guida and barely won. What do you think a bigger, stronger, better wrestler is going to do too him?
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                          • Eccocide
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-12-09
                            • 2126

                            #14
                            I come home from work to see that Nover got so scared to face the Canadian that he KOed himself into a seizure. I believe this should be graded as a win but I'm sure the books disagree . As such, I am adding another play with the 2 units spared from the void bet. Prolly a bad idea but whatever. Most of the fights have been taken down from my books so I will deal with what are left over.

                            My Pick: 3 fight parlay: Maynard/Condit/Cantwell 2 units to win 2.2 units.
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                            • Eccocide
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-12-09
                              • 2126

                              #15
                              Here's my banger - so pissed 5dimes doesnt have the Wilson fight up right now. Shoulda played this yesterday knowing I had to work all day today.

                              Banger Parlay: Guillard/Condit/Maynard fight wontgo the distance/Condit/Cantwell 0.25 units to win 3.43 units
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                              • Bread
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-16-08
                                • 23726

                                #16
                                The good news is....you have exactly 3 days to wait for some vindication!
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                                • Eccocide
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-12-09
                                  • 2126

                                  #17
                                  Pure disaster before the main card even started!!! Well I went against 2 of my cardinal rules being betting on a fight where I don’t know much about one fighter (Larson/Pierce fight) and second being adding in a fight that I didn’t want to have anything to do with (Cantwell/Stann). So I got what I deserved.

                                  I haven’t lost units on any PPV since UFC 93, yet I’ve lost on the last 3 UFN/TUF cards. The gambling gods are trying to tell me something! Anyways, let's put this giant ****show behind us and move on to Saturday..thank god there is a card Saturday or else I'd have to let this dwell for another month
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                                  • The HOFF
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-02-08
                                    • 4847

                                    #18
                                    Ecco's bad night = Hoff's bad night
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                                    • Bread
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-16-08
                                      • 23726

                                      #19
                                      Ecco & Hoff should follow Bread more often
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                                      • JMUplayer
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-27-09
                                        • 2765

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Eccocide
                                        Here's my banger - so pissed 5dimes doesnt have the Wilson fight up right now. Shoulda played this yesterday knowing I had to work all day today.

                                        Banger Parlay: Guillard/Condit/Maynard fight wontgo the distance/Condit/Cantwell 0.25 units to win 3.43 units
                                        Maynard won't go the distance?
                                        I have one word of advice DONT DO METH

                                        Didn't you see the post earlier about his new nickname? Gray "the decision" maynard?
                                        Huerta didn't even care if he gave him his back at any time.
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                                        • Eccocide
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-12-09
                                          • 2126

                                          #21
                                          Obviously I understood he goes to decisions since i put that in my writeup. However, I didnt think Huerta was going to be all that motivated due to the fact that he is done with fighting. As well, Maynard didnt do anything i expected him to do till the 3rd round, in which he almost ended the fight with a nasty kimura. Props to Roger for toughing it out through that. And its called a banger for a reason.
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