UFC 280: Oliveira vs. Makhachev (October 22, 2022)

**Thor4140** · 10-22-22, 07:51 PM

Dana said The Yan fight was a razor close decision. If that was the other way around with sugar looking like the guy that should have won Dana would have said Sugar got screwed. Hilarious how Dana is always on the right side of saying a guy got robbed but this time since it was Sugar it was "razor thin" This is almost as bad as Dana saying no one got a bump in pay on the Nate Diaz card

On a side note you got to hand it to Sugar Shane. the kid did put on a hell of a fight and his interview afterwards, in a bad spot, was pretty honest and about as good or an interview with everyone booing.

**JIBBBY** · 10-22-22, 08:49 PM

My money was on Yan. I think he won. I was pissed off with that bogus decision..

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 10-22-22, 09:10 PM

Yan got 3 losses for no reason. Yes, I think Yan won both fights against Aljamain

First fight, it's obvious Aljamain took the easy route.

Second fight, what did Aljamain really do? Not much...

**jrgum3** · 10-22-22, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

My money was on Yan. I think he won. I was pissed off with that bogus decision..

I didn't have a bet on that fight but I thought Yan won 29-28. O'Malley inflicted damage but Yan pretty much controlled that fight plus he also inflicted damage. I don't like or hate O'Malley but lets face it he brings in viewers and money so there may have been some funny business going on with that decision.

**JIBBBY** · 10-22-22, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by jrgum3

I didn't have a bet on that fight but I thought Yan won 29-28. O'Malley inflicted damage but Yan pretty much controlled that fight plus he also inflicted damage. I don't like or hate O'Malley but lets face it he brings in viewers and money so there may have been some funny business going on with that decision.

That's why you don't let the fights go to the judges. UFC judging is often suspect. You can almost expect one robbery decision per card.

**Allure** · 10-23-22, 06:08 AM

Well for the losing fighter it is robbery, for Dana and the UFC it is following the script. Whenever a popular fighter is involved and it goes the distance expect it to be rigged.

When Khabib jumped the cage after the Conor fight, Dana publicly said the two fighters who attacked Conor (Zubaira and Islam) would be cut from the UFC. After that Khabib threatened to leave the UFC and Dana immediately made sure this was forgotten immediately and was even pissed at the media to stop asking questions about the incident.

So that's the UFC. Bet accordingly, I know I will never ever bet against Khamzat, O'Malley or Paddy - unless I think they'll get finished ITD. Unless these guys get finished, they will never lose a fight.

**povis** · 10-23-22, 06:23 AM

Sterling-Cejudo and Yan-O'malley for 5 rounds or O'malley-Vera would be good options. O'malley did very well and i thought he was legit before the fight but he's already better than most ranked guys but Yan got it 29-28.

**KVB** · 10-23-22, 11:28 AM

Yet to hear anyone say sugar won legit.

Usually there’s at least one guy claiming people don’t know what they’re watching so they don’t understand the result, but I’m not seeing that here, or anywhere, at all.

Pretty much unanimous consensus that Yan got fukked.

**Thor4140** · 10-23-22, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by KVB

Yet to hear anyone say sugar won legit.

Usually there’s at least one guy claiming people don’t know what they’re watching so they don’t understand the result, but I’m not seeing that here, or anywhere, at all.

Pretty much unanimous consensus that Yan got fukked.

Kermit hasn't weighed in yet. Is that the proper use of the word weigh. Dont want Kermit attacking me.

**Thor4140** · 10-23-22, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by KVB

Yet to hear anyone say sugar won legit.

Usually there’s at least one guy claiming people don’t know what they’re watching so they don’t understand the result, but I’m not seeing that here, or anywhere, at all.

Pretty much unanimous consensus that Yan got fukked.

You would think with how Dana said it was razor thin we would have at least one guy. the guy will usually also say we know nothing about MMa and that is why we think Yan won.

**KVB** · 10-23-22, 11:48 AM

There's usually someone, and that guy isn't always wrong.

Sometimes, the majority cries foul but the many who "know" can make a case for whatever it is that's foul, and at least make an argument.

This is not happening at all with the Yan fight.

Even the early stoppage question had a legit argument and two legit sides making different points. Sometimes we can see a case on both sides, because the ref made a judgement call.

This is not happening with the Yan fight, not at all.

**KingHawkins** · 10-23-22, 12:13 PM

The UFC is "rigged", this isn't new, or new news to anyone. So are Bellator, PFL, One FC, Boxing, NFL, NBA, Soccer, and the rest.

And no, there is not any valid, logical, sensible argument for O'Malley winning that fight. None.

**KVB** · 10-23-22, 12:18 PM

Fair enough Hawkins.

But we don't even have the guy saying "all you who say it's rigged are just mad because you lost" coming up in here.

There is ZERO Sugar support, from those of who know it's rigged to those who think it's not.

Nothing suprises me in sports, nothing. Not anymore.

But this little fact of ZERO sugar support is strange. Could be repurcussions for the business down the road. We may see a long campaign of obvious decisions to help gain the supports of the public, you never know.

lol.....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Everyone arriving at Twitter to declare Yan was robbed <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UFC280?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >#UFC280</a> <a href="https://t.co/LSLNJa25Ks">pic.twitter.com/LSLNJa25Ks</a></p>— Darren (@Darren94775262) <a href="https://twitter.com/Darren94775262/status/1583909262316621824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 22, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**KVB** · 10-23-22, 12:21 PM

I'll stop going on, I've been aroung the biz a long time, something slightly strange about this one though, you can tell it's bugging me. Maybe it will just pass like all the other strange daily sports calls.

Even sugar's interview reminds a bit of that time Kobe couldn't quite understand how they were able to come back and win a playoff game.

He just couldn't tell the truth but obviously the lie was so transparent.

**KingHawkins** · 10-23-22, 01:16 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djKIlXz8WJs

Check this video out, it's a classic.

But yeah no one thinks Suga won round 1 or 2. Petr gets screwed over for the third time by the "judges" in most people's opinions.

Have a good Sunday, dude(s)

**Thor4140** · 10-23-22, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by KingHawkins

The UFC is "rigged", this isn't new, or new news to anyone. So are Bellator, PFL, One FC, Boxing, NFL, NBA, Soccer, and the rest.
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And no, there is not any valid, logical, sensible argument for O'Malley winning that fight. None.

It is not the ufc being rigged it is not boxing being rigged. It is the judges and that is why when this stuff is called rigged it is always the decision. Ufc and boxing have no say on who are the judges

**JIBBBY** · 10-23-22, 07:03 PM

Yan won 2 rounds and got take downs, control and inflicted more damage in those 2 rounds. That decision was fixed. ROBBERY!!

**Brandt Moat** · 10-23-22, 07:54 PM

I'm not in agreement. I was on the right side of the fix this time. Question: Does each state have their own judges for UFC? Don't think so. So this "Organization" has it's own judges that travels around the world judging this and some other "Organizations" that this particular group of investors own? But, they are completely separate of one another??? umm no fookn way! Money rules law. Any rule can be changed with money. It's an entertainment presentation. The judges are part of the scam. Just like our government blaming the other party. There are "NOT" 2 parties. A few powerful people control our country. We don't even know their names. That's how ya pull Bullshyt off for years. Play the blame game. Not me-It's them. You hear that much? Everyday! Just sayn

Originally posted by Thor4140

It is not the ufc being rigged it is not boxing being rigged. It is the judges and that is why when this stuff is called rigged it is always the decision. Ufc and boxing have no say on who are the judges

**Brandt Moat** · 10-23-22, 09:13 PM

Don't forget the people pulling the strings are the ones I've been warning ya about. They are involved in money making. They don't care what you think. They can't hear you over the money counting machines. Straight "FIX" Period. Going to be anything done? You know already. The ones in control don't give a fook what you want. I had O'Malley. Still, I want to know when I pick a winner, I'm not getn screwed. I hope some rich more honest type people get control of a MMA organization. The UFC will be a land mine from here on out. I laid off after a few questionable decisions went against me. This last event, I went at it more aggressively and was on the right side of the fix. Now I know for sure any bet is in jeopardy if it gets to the judges. Sucks!!

**Thor4140** · 10-23-22, 09:28 PM

[IMG]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Khabib’s reaction was all of ours last night to Yan-O’Malley <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UFC280?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >#UFC280</a> <a href="https://t.co/Qcawsqme9h">pic.twitter.com/Qcawsqme9h</a></p>— Spinnin Backfist (@SpinninBackfist) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpinninBackfist/status/1584248198385655808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/IMG]

**Brandt Moat** · 10-23-22, 09:43 PM

I was in Meadows Casino in Washington , PA. Only the young MMA dorks that were on O'Malley (as I was was) were the ones going crazy. All fight fans were disappointed. It's only going to get worse.

**Brandt Moat** · 10-24-22, 09:58 AM

Out boxed. Hit that on the head.

Originally posted by Thor4140

Brady tends to get clipped and if he is stunned anything can happen but i rather stay on his streak i just wish they had a better boxing coach in their camp. Brady has nice hands but his movement worries me some where he tends to get clipped. when your stunned you can be a jujitz multi world champion it doesn't matter you are getting subbed

**KVB** · 10-24-22, 10:46 AM

As soon as they realized it was a split decision Khabib’s camp knew.

Unreal.

Good find Thor.

**JIBBBY** · 10-24-22, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by Thor4140

[IMG]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Khabib’s reaction was all of ours last night to Yan-O’Malley <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UFC280?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >#UFC280</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/Qcawsqme9h">pic.twitter.com/Qcawsqme9h</a></p>— Spinnin Backfist (@SpinninBackfist) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/SpinninBackfist/status/1584248198385655808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/IMG]

Khabib had money on Yan like I did. I reacted the same way..

**Thrilla** · 10-24-22, 12:43 PM

Islam! The greatest religion in the world!

**Thor4140** · 10-24-22, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Brandt Moat

Out boxed. Hit that on the head.

Brady could have brought a bat and he still wasn’t going to win. There is so much going on in that camp i like to say but i i cant.

**KVB** · 10-24-22, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

Brady could have brought a bat and he still wasn’t going to win. There is so much going on in that camp i like to say but i i cant.

That's too bad.

Would like to see that brute strength when taught some discipline and strategy.

Brute force only gets you so far.

**Thor4140** · 10-24-22, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by KVB

That's too bad.

Would like to see that brute strength when taught some discipline and strategy.

Brute force only gets you so far.

I just watch that fight again and Brady was winning that fight up until the last 45 seconds of that second round. At first I thought it was a a good stoppage but i dont think so anymore. I don’t think it would have changed anything. Brady must have gotten his nose broke an was struggling with that. That was a real good fight for how long it lasted.

**KVB** · 10-24-22, 04:18 PM

It sure sounds like Brady has a lot of potential.

He got some respect from others in the gym.

I agree, was a good fight and I wanted to see a second round.

**Thrilla** · 10-25-22, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Locky you're back!!! Thanks for the UFC thread start.

I was about done trying to do what you do. I thought you were dead and or done or something.

When was he ever alive? Take this for example. I mean he replied with such vigor to your post. lol. Guy is a fukking bot or some shit.

**jrgum3** · 10-25-22, 03:12 AM

I just rewatched the main card again to watch the Yan/O'Malley fight specifically because I wanted to see if it was really as close as the judges had it and I think I can see why they were swayed to the O'Malley side. He did land some big shots in that fight but if you ask me I still would've scored it for Yan because of the control time being the deciding factor. It was closer than I thought though so all I can say is if you're Yan don't let the judges decide your fights anymore because who knows what the heck they're going to see to screw you in the end.

**Brandt Moat** · 10-25-22, 08:42 AM

I agree it was a close fight. Over the years, I have seen way worse decisions. This one was NOT an All-Time horrible decision. I have seen guys barely defend themselves from near death and get the nod. It should never happen to either degree. To much separation in this fight to be wrong. One guy clearly won and one lost. I gained respect for O'Malley during fight & post fight. Weirdo can scrap! Won't be such a hater any longer. He stands in there and tries to get his shyt off. Anyway turn the page, clear our memories of the fookn some of you took and act like it won't happen again and again. Don't ever put many eggs in one basket in this sport or just about any of them. Fixes lurk! Or for you dipshiots that still think they are not fixed, zombie along in life you fookn goofballs.

**KVB** · 10-25-22, 10:37 AM

Yeah, it may not be the worst decision ever, but we seem pretty hard pressed to find anybody seeing how O’Malley won it.

To me that’s unusual even for a terrible call but you’re right time to move on these things happen all the time.

**5918mike** · 10-25-22, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by KVB

Yet to hear anyone say sugar won legit.

Usually there’s at least one guy claiming people don’t know what they’re watching so they don’t understand the result, but I’m not seeing that here, or anywhere, at all.

Pretty much unanimous consensus that Yan got fukked.

Schaub said he thought Suga got it after rewatching it a few times.

**Thor4140** · 10-25-22, 03:40 PM

I cant blame Khamzat here

[IMG]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">from another angle<br>��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UFC280?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >#UFC280</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Khamzat?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw ">#Khamzat</a> <a href="https://t.co/m3bzC7j5EB">pic.twitter.com/m3bzC7j5EB</a></p>— فهد الشوّيب (@FahadAlshwib) <a href="https://twitter.com/FahadAlshwib/status/1584304274535698432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/IMG]