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  • firekillex
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-18-13
    • 6420

    #351
    Gaethje was calling for Al after the fight.. would love that matchup
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    • JIBBBY
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-10-09
      • 83686

      #352
      Originally posted by firekillex
      Gaethje was calling for Al after the fight.. would love that matchup
      Gaethje may get dropped.. Would be a fun fight to watch.. AL has a chin and it's very hard to land flush on him and drop the guy, slightly better boxing.... Gaethje a little chinny lately in recent fights also.. Both warriors in the cage though..

      I'd take Al... Great fight match up and would love to see it!!!!
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      • PaperTrail07
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-29-08
        • 20423

        #353
        Lee def took some cash from me.....I gave the books too much credit here....they messed my thought process up with the line....it was so big it had me thinking Lee was better than he was or improved greatly.....I THOUGHT lee would win.....YES..and I didn't give AI enough respect....knew the line was a bit steep but figured Lee for the W......respect as he brought it and made Lee look like a backpedaling bitch....
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        Gaethje may get dropped.. Would be a fun fight to watch.. AL has a chin and it's very hard to land flush on him and drop the guy, slightly better boxing.... Gaethje a little chinny lately in recent fights also.. Both warriors in the cage though..

        I'd take Al... Great fight match up and would love to see it!!!!
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        • robert_wrath
          SBR MVP
          • 07-16-09
          • 2122

          #354
          Originally posted by firekillex
          Gaethje was calling for Al after the fight.. would love that matchup
          Originally posted by robert_wrath
          Although the UFC webpage hasn't been updated, here are the rankings (Lightweight Division): https://www.ufc.com/rankings

          1. Tony Ferguson
          2. Conor Mcgregor
          3. Dustin Poirier
          4. Kevin Lee
          5. Edson Barbosa
          6. Justin Gaethje
          7. Anthony Pettis
          8. AL Iaquinta
          9. Michael Chiesa
          10. Nate Diaz
          11. James Vick
          12. Alexander Hernandez
          13. Francisco Trinaldo
          14. Dan Hooker
          15. Paul Felder
          Upon updating the rankings, this fight is imminent.
          Last edited by robert_wrath; 12-17-18, 03:20 PM.
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          • JIBBBY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-10-09
            • 83686

            #355
            Originally posted by PaperTrail07
            Lee def took some cash from me.....I gave the books too much credit here....they messed my thought process up with the line....it was so big it had me thinking Lee was better than he was or improved greatly.....I THOUGHT lee would win.....YES..and I didn't give AI enough respect....knew the line was a bit steep but figured Lee for the W......respect as he brought it and made Lee look like a backpedaling bitch....
            Yep me too.. Hard to beat a fighter twice and by method of decision.. I really thought Lee would get his revenge and really go to his wrestling and ground control more.. I think Kevin Lee was gassing out more then anything else in that 5 rounder, I think he began pacing himself and really just trying to hold on especially after round 3..

            I think if this was a 3 round fight we may have seen a different outcome.. Kevin Lee would have given more output for just 3 rounds and really leached onto Al's back after taking him down again and again..
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            • PaperTrail07
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-29-08
              • 20423

              #356
              once AI got out of the body lock and Lee did NOTHING taking his back...I knew it was bad news....smh....Lee knew it too
              Originally posted by JIBBBY
              Yep me too.. Hard to beat a fighter twice and by method of decision.. I really thought Lee would get his revenge and really go to his wrestling and ground control more.. I think Kevin Lee was gassing out more then anything else in that 5 rounder, I think he began pacing himself and really just trying to hold on especially after round 3..

              I think if this was a 3 round fight we may have seen a different outcome.. Kevin Lee would have given more output for just 3 rounds and really leached onto Al's back after taking him down again and again..
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              • PaperTrail07
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-29-08
                • 20423

                #357
                3 round and 5 rounds are diff worlds....agree
                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                Yep me too.. Hard to beat a fighter twice and by method of decision.. I really thought Lee would get his revenge and really go to his wrestling and ground control more.. I think Kevin Lee was gassing out more then anything else in that 5 rounder, I think he began pacing himself and really just trying to hold on especially after round 3..

                I think if this was a 3 round fight we may have seen a different outcome.. Kevin Lee would have given more output for just 3 rounds and really leached onto Al's back after taking him down again and again..
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                • Kermit
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                  • 09-27-10
                  • 32555

                  #358
                  Originally posted by firekillex
                  Gaethje was calling for Al after the fight.. would love that matchup
                  Gaethje doesn't have many fights left and one with Al could be his last.
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                  • firekillex
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-18-13
                    • 6420

                    #359
                    Originally posted by Kermit
                    Gaethje doesn't have many fights left and one with Al could be his last.
                    what lol
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                    • Hugo de Naranja
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-14-16
                      • 14140

                      #360
                      UFC on Fox 31: Lee vs. Iaquinta II Picks:
                      Juan Adams Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                      Adam Milstead Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                      Dan Ige Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                      Zak Cummings Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                      Jack Hermansson Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                      Jared Gordon Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                      Bobby Green Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                      Dwight Grant Round 2 KO (Punches)
                      Charles Oliveira Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                      Rob Font Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                      Dan Hooker Round 1 KO (Knee)
                      Kevin Lee Round 1 Technical Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
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                      • Hugo de Naranja
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-14-16
                        • 14140

                        #361
                        UFC on Fox 31: Lee vs. Iaquinta II

                        Fight Pass Prelims:

                        Fight #1: Adams (DEBUT) vs. De La Rocha
                        Adams+De La Rocha Won’t Start Round 2 (-132) -1.32u

                        Result: Juan Adams Round 3 TKO (Punches)
                        Fight: -1.32u
                        Card: -1.32u

                        Fight #2: Milstead vs. Rodriguez
                        Milstead KO/TKO (+215) -1u

                        Result: Mike Rodriguez Round 1 TKO (Knee to the Body and Punches)
                        Fight: -1u
                        Card: -2.32u

                        Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

                        Fight #3: Ige vs. Griffin (DEBUT)
                        Griffin ITD (+298) -.5u
                        Griffin Submission (+525) .5u

                        Result: Dan Ige Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                        Fight: -1u
                        Card: -3.32u

                        Fight #4: Cummings vs. Smith
                        Cummings+Smith Won’t Go Distance (+165) -1u
                        Cummings ITD (+215) -2u
                        Cummings KO/TKO (+705) -.5u

                        Hedge:
                        Smith Decision (+404) -.75u

                        Result: Zak Cummings Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                        Fight: -4.25u
                        Card: -7.57u

                        Fight #5: Hermansson vs. Meerschaert
                        Hermansson -3.5 (+100) +3u
                        Hermansson Submission (+950) +7.13u

                        Hedge(s):
                        Meerschaert (+205) -1u
                        Meerschaert ITD (+230) -1u

                        Added:
                        Hermansson KO/TKO (+250) -1u

                        Result: Jack Hermansson Round 1 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
                        Fight: +7.13u
                        Card: -0.44u

                        Fight #6: Gordon vs. Silva
                        Gordon (-125) -2.5u
                        Gordon Round 2 (+825) -.75u
                        Gordon Round 3 (+1425) -.5u

                        Hedge(s):
                        Silva KO/TKO (+425) +2.13u
                        Silva Round 1 (+550) -.5u

                        Added:
                        Gordon Decision (+185) -1u

                        Result: Joaquim Silva Round 3 KO (Punches)
                        Fight: -3.12u
                        Card: -3.56u

                        Fight #7: Green vs. Klose
                        Green (+240) -1.75u
                        Green Decision (+380) -1u

                        Result: Drakkar Klose Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                        Fight: -2.75u
                        Card: -6.31u

                        Fight #8: Grant (DEBUT) vs. Ottow
                        Ottow Submission (+1315) -.5u

                        Result: Zak Ottow Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                        Fight: -.5u
                        Card: -6.81u

                        Main Card:

                        Fight #9: Oliveira vs. Miller
                        Oliveira Submission (+100) +2.5u

                        Hedge(s):
                        Miller ITD (+451) -.5u
                        Miller Submission (+751) -.5u

                        Result: Charles Oliveira Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                        Fight: +1.5u
                        Card: -5.31u

                        Fight #10: Font vs. Pettis
                        Font (-160) +5u
                        Font+Pettis Won’t Go Distance (+175) -1u
                        Font ITD (+185) -2u
                        Font Submission (+1200) -.5u

                        Hedge:
                        Pettis Submission (+1368) -1u

                        Result: Rob Font Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                        Fight: +0.5u
                        Card: -4.81u

                        Fight #11: Hooker vs. Barboza
                        Hooker Scorecards = No Action (-145) -5.08u
                        Hooker ITD (+185) -2.5u
                        Hooker KO/TKO (+350) -1u
                        Hooker Submission (+845) -.5u

                        Added:
                        Hooker Decision (+411) -.75u

                        Hedge:
                        Barboza Decision (+275) -2u

                        Result: Edson Barboza Round 3 KO (Body Kick)
                        Fight: -11.83u
                        Card: -16.64u

                        Fight #12: Lee vs. Iaquinta
                        Lee ITD (-124) -1.86u
                        Lee Submission (+170) -1u
                        Lee Round 1 (+315) -1u
                        Lee Round 2 (+475) -.5u
                        Lee Unanimous Decision (+443) 1u
                        Lee+Iaquinta Draw (+9000) -.1u

                        Hedge(s):
                        Iaquinta KO/TKO (+505) -1.5u
                        Iaquinta Round 1 (+1200) -.25u

                        Result: Al Iaquinta Unanimous Decision (49-46, 48-47 x2)
                        Fight: -7.21u
                        Card: -23.85u

                        Straight Parlays:
                        A. Lee/Font (+104) +1.03u


                        Results: See Above, Lee Fight Cancelled 2u on Font wins 1.03u
                        Fights: +1.03u
                        Card: -22.82u

                        Prop Parlays:
                        Oliveira+Miller WGD
                        /Lee -5.5 (+104) -2u
                        Cummings ITD/Gordon+Silva GD/Green Decision/Lee+Clark WGD/Font+Pettis WGD/Hooker ITD (+49220) -.25u

                        Added:
                        Adams+De La Rocha Under 1.5/Milstead/Ige (+324) -.5u
                        Cummings -3.5/Hermansson/Gordon (+406) -.5u
                        Font/Hooker/Lee+Iaquinta Under 2.5 (+478) -.5u
                        Green/Grant ITD/Oliveira Submission (+962) -.25u

                        Added Hedge:
                        Barboza ITD/Iaquinta KO (+2863) -.5u

                        Results: See Above
                        Fights: -4u
                        Card: -26.82u

                        Live Betting:
                        Font+Pettis Goes Distance (-190) +1.5u after R1
                        Cummings (-190) +1u after R1
                        Ige+Griffin Goes Distance (+120) +1.2u after R1
                        Hooker+Barboza Won’t Go Distance (+165) +1.65u after R1
                        Iaquinta (+180) +1.8u after R2
                        Klose (+250) +3.75u after R2

                        Results: See Above
                        Fights: +10.9u
                        Card: -15.92u

                        Full Card Props:
                        Over 5.5 Fights Go Distance (+107) +1.34u

                        Over 6.5 Fights Go Distance (+232) -.5u
                        Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+518) -.5u
                        Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+1432) -.25u

                        FOTN: Silva+Gordon
                        POTN: Iaquinta, Oliveira
                        Fastest Submission: Oliveira R1 (1:15)
                        Fastest KO: Rodriguez R1 (2:59)
                        Decisions: 6
                        Results: See Above
                        Fights: +0.09u
                        Final Card Total = -15.83u

                        Multi-Event Parlays:
                        Velasquez/Oliveira+Miller WGD (-123) +2u
                        Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Font (+114) +1.14u
                        Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Hooker (+124) -1u
                        Ferreira+Nelson WGD/A. Lee (+141) +.97u

                        Results: See Above
                        Fights: +3.11u
                        Multi-Event Parlays = +3.11u
                        Last edited by Hugo de Naranja; 12-19-18, 02:01 AM.
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                        • Hugo de Naranja
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 04-14-16
                          • 14140

                          #362
                          Originally posted by firekillex
                          Gaethje was calling for Al after the fight.. would love that matchup
                          WolfTicketDealer and I actually met Gaethje on our plane back to Colorado from UFC 231. He said that he wanted the winner of this fight when we talked to him. Would favor Gaethje pretty solidly against Al.
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                          • firekillex
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-18-13
                            • 6420

                            #363
                            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                            WolfTicketDealer and I actually met Gaethje on our plane back to Colorado from UFC 231. He said that he wanted the winner of this fight when we talked to him. Would favor Gaethje pretty solidly against Al.
                            Nice we ended up meeting eryk anders he sat right behind us and watched the rest of the card with his family .. and for gaethje al it depend so how many rounds tbh, I’d lean gaethje in a 3 rounder an al in a 5... Al has had tons of knee problems though fighting a guy like Gaethje could be real dangerous .. would love to see that scrap
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                            • Demonata
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                              • 07-12-11
                              • 25829

                              #364
                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                              UFC on Fox 31: Lee vs. Iaquinta II

                              Fight Pass Prelims:

                              Fight #1: Adams (DEBUT) vs. De La Rocha
                              Adams+De La Rocha Won’t Start Round 2 (-132) -1.32u

                              Result: Juan Adams Round 3 TKO (Punches)
                              Fight: -1.32u
                              Card: -1.32u

                              Fight #2: Milstead vs. Rodriguez
                              Milstead KO/TKO (+215) -1u

                              Result: Mike Rodriguez Round 1 TKO (Knee to the Body and Punches)
                              Fight: -1u
                              Card: -2.32u

                              Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

                              Fight #3: Ige vs. Griffin (DEBUT)
                              Griffin ITD (+298) -.5u
                              Griffin Submission (+525) .5u

                              Result: Dan Ige Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                              Fight: -1u
                              Card: -3.32u

                              Fight #4: Cummings vs. Smith
                              Cummings+Smith Won’t Go Distance (+165) -1u
                              Cummings ITD (+215) -2u
                              Cummings KO/TKO (+705) -.5u

                              Hedge:
                              Smith Decision (+404) -.75u

                              Result: Zak Cummings Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                              Fight: -4.25u
                              Card: -7.57u

                              Fight #5: Hermansson vs. Meerschaert
                              Hermansson -3.5 (+100) +3u
                              Hermansson Submission (+950) +7.13u

                              Hedge(s):
                              Meerschaert (+205) -1u
                              Meerschaert ITD (+230) -1u

                              Added:
                              Hermansson KO/TKO (+250) -1u

                              Result: Jack Hermansson Round 1 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
                              Fight: +7.13u
                              Card: -0.44u

                              Fight #6: Gordon vs. Silva
                              Gordon (-125) -2.5u
                              Gordon Round 2 (+825) -.75u
                              Gordon Round 3 (+1425) -.5u

                              Hedge(s):
                              Silva KO/TKO (+425) +2.13u
                              Silva Round 1 (+550) -.5u

                              Added:
                              Gordon Decision (+185) -1u

                              Result: Joaquim Silva Round 3 KO (Punches)
                              Fight: -3.12u
                              Card: -3.56u

                              Fight #7: Green vs. Klose
                              Green (+240) -1.75u
                              Green Decision (+380) -1u

                              Result: Drakkar Klose Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                              Fight: -2.75u
                              Card: -6.31u

                              Fight #8: Grant (DEBUT) vs. Ottow
                              Ottow Submission (+1315) -.5u

                              Result: Zak Ottow Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                              Fight: -.5u
                              Card: -6.81u

                              Main Card:

                              Fight #9: Oliveira vs. Miller
                              Oliveira Submission (+100) +2.5u

                              Hedge(s):
                              Miller ITD (+451) -.5u
                              Miller Submission (+751) -.5u

                              Result: Charles Oliveira Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                              Fight: +1.5u
                              Card: -5.31u

                              Fight #10: Font vs. Pettis
                              Font (-160) +5u
                              Font+Pettis Won’t Go Distance (+175) -1u
                              Font ITD (+185) -2u
                              Font Submission (+1200) -.5u

                              Hedge:
                              Pettis Submission (+1368) -1u

                              Result: Rob Font Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                              Fight: +0.5u
                              Card: -4.81u

                              Fight #11: Hooker vs. Barboza
                              Hooker Scorecards = No Action (-145) -5.08u
                              Hooker ITD (+185) -2.5u
                              Hooker KO/TKO (+350) -1u
                              Hooker Submission (+845) -.5u

                              Added:
                              Hooker Decision (+411) -.75u

                              Hedge:
                              Barboza Decision (+275) -2u

                              Result: Edson Barboza Round 3 KO (Body Kick)
                              Fight: -11.83u
                              Card: -16.64u

                              Fight #12: Lee vs. Iaquinta
                              Lee ITD (-124) -1.86u
                              Lee Submission (+170) -1u
                              Lee Round 1 (+315) -1u
                              Lee Round 2 (+475) -.5u
                              Lee Unanimous Decision (+443) 1u
                              Lee+Iaquinta Draw (+9000) -.1u

                              Hedge(s):
                              Iaquinta KO/TKO (+505) -1.5u
                              Iaquinta Round 1 (+1200) -.25u

                              Result: Al Iaquinta Unanimous Decision (49-46, 48-47 x2)
                              Fight: -7.21u
                              Card: -23.85u

                              Straight Parlays:
                              A. Lee/Font (+104) +1.03u


                              Results: See Above, Lee Fight Cancelled 2u on Font wins 1.03u
                              Fights: +1.03u
                              Card: -22.82u

                              Prop Parlays:
                              Oliveira+Miller WGD
                              /Lee -5.5 (+104) -2u
                              Cummings ITD/Gordon+Silva GD/Green Decision/Lee+Clark WGD/Font+Pettis WGD/Hooker ITD (+49220) -.25u

                              Added:
                              Adams+De La Rocha Under 1.5/Milstead/Ige (+324) -.5u
                              Cummings -3.5/Hermansson/Gordon (+406) -.5u
                              Font/Hooker/Lee+Iaquinta Under 2.5 (+478) -.5u
                              Green/Grant ITD/Oliveira Submission (+962) -.25u

                              Added Hedge:
                              Barboza ITD/Iaquinta KO (+2863) -.5u

                              Results: See Above
                              Fights: -4u
                              Card: -26.82u

                              Live Betting:
                              Font+Pettis Goes Distance (-190) +1.5u after R1
                              Cummings (-190) +1u after R1
                              Ige+Griffin Goes Distance (+120) +1.2u after R1
                              Hooker+Barboza Won’t Go Distance (+165) +1.65u after R1
                              Iaquinta (+180) +1.8u after R2
                              Klose (+250) +3.75u after R2

                              Results: See Above
                              Fights: +10.9u
                              Card: -15.92u

                              Full Card Props:
                              Over 5.5 Fights Go Distance (+107) +1.34u

                              Over 6.5 Fights Go Distance (+232) -.5u
                              Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+518) -.5u
                              Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+1432) -.25u

                              FOTN: Silva+Gordon
                              POTN: Iaquinta, Oliveira
                              Fastest Submission: Oliveira R1 (1:15)
                              Fastest KO: Rodriguez R1 (2:59)
                              Decisions: 6
                              Results: See Above
                              Fights: +0.09u
                              Final Card Total = -15.83u

                              Multi-Event Parlays:
                              Velasquez/Oliveira+Miller WGD (-123) +2u
                              Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Font (+114) +1.14u
                              Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Hooker (+124) -1u
                              Ferreira+Nelson WGD/A. Lee (+141) +.97u

                              Results: See Above
                              Fights: +3.11u
                              Multi-Event Parlays = +3.11u
                              Mad respect for being honest and not just saying broke even blah blah like most ufc posters.
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                              • Sanity Check
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-30-13
                                • 10962

                                #365
                                Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                Feel tempted to play it like this.

                                Kevin Lee > Al Iaquinta
                                Edson Barboza > Dan Hooker
                                Rob Font > Sergio Pettis
                                Jim Miller < Charles Oliveira
                                Zak Ottow < Dwight Grant
                                Bobby Green < Drakkar Klose
                                Jared Gordon < Joaquim Silva
                                Gerald Meerschaert < Jack Hermansson
                                Dan Ige > Jordan Griffin
                                Jessica-Rose Clark > Andrea Lee
                                Adam Milstead > Mike Rodriguez
                                Trevor Smith < Zak Cummings
                                Chris de la Rocha > Juan Adams

                                .

                                I have to find ways to make money other than gambling.

                                Something more profitable.


                                ^
                                Slept through half the card, didn't bother capping everything, only made 3 or 4 plays... still beat Hugo by 5 units and a pick or two.

                                I hope you're getting some positive reads from our friendly rivalry, Hugo. Remember when you used to talk down to me and act as if I were somehow inferior to you?


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                                • Hugo de Naranja
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-14-16
                                  • 14140

                                  #366
                                  Can't win 'em all. Made a few bad bets, learned some lessons. Onto the next.
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                                  • firekillex
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-18-13
                                    • 6420

                                    #367
                                    Sanity check is either the best troll I’ve ever seen or has legitimate mental issues..... still can’t decide which is the correct answer yet
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                                    • PaperTrail07
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-29-08
                                      • 20423

                                      #368
                                      Def both BUUUT he is still one of US......hes like Alan in the hangover lol
                                      Originally posted by firekillex
                                      Sanity check is either the best troll I’ve ever seen or has legitimate mental issues..... still can’t decide which is the correct answer yet
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                                      • kcchiefs
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-05-13
                                        • 1104

                                        #369
                                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                        Def both BUUUT he is still one of US......hes like Alan in the hangover lol
                                        That was pretty funny.
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                                        • firekillex
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-18-13
                                          • 6420

                                          #370
                                          Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                          Def both BUUUT he is still one of US......hes like Alan in the hangover lol
                                          hes slowly growing on me.. sometimes i get a good chuckle from his insane statements i cant deny that
                                          seems like he actually does watch/ know the sport but some of the things he says are extremely strange / far out there
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                                          • Kermit
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 09-27-10
                                            • 32555

                                            #371
                                            Originally posted by firekillex
                                            what lol
                                            Al has a solid chin. I like Gaethje and don't want to see him take 3 rounds of head trauma.
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                                            • RussianMike
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 03-20-10
                                              • 292

                                              #372
                                              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                              once AI got out of the body lock and Lee did NOTHING taking his back...I knew it was bad news....smh....Lee knew it too
                                              The guy rode his back for maybe 6-7 minutes total fight time and never even once threatened him with a possible RNC. He had him upside down in an awkward position in the second and threw a few bombs, but didn't have the fight IQ to realize that was a way towards victory and just stopped throwing. I didn't feel it was that Lee got tired in there, It's just that he really hasn't been taught yet how to use his wrestling to completely smother mofos by constant pressure. Big as he is, it shouldn't be so easy for most of the fighters he gets down on the ground to work their ways back up as quickly as they do. Just seems to me he is too self-conscious of how he looks in there when fighting and the product he is selling the fans to be focused on actually getting that W. Otherwise, what else explains his constant desire to pretend he is a top notch striker and ignore takedown attempts. Both time AI got in trouble and taken down, I think, inexplicably, were when it was actually AI who started reaching for and closing the distance with Lee, instead of the other way around. The first time for sure. Remember he did it a few times and each time I about lost my mind and almost threw my computer out the window. LOL. But yeah, Lee is nowhere near the hype, and isn't improving as a fighter at all. Take away the RNC, and he doesn't have much of a path to victory against any top level competition. Just a self-lauded gate-keeper in his prime. Real recognize real.
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                                              • RussianMike
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 03-20-10
                                                • 292

                                                #373
                                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                you are probably right Conor is not man enough to step in the octagon with Al
                                                Naw, man. AI is exactly the type of fight UFC would feed Conor and he would take right now, outside of Diaz. The most beatable guy for their star who absolutely cannot take another loss out the gate. It ain't like they wanna feed him to Porier, really, so who else is Conor supposed to fight? Both Porier and Holloway light years away from the rawdogs they were when they first fought Conor. Looking at styles, Conor beats AI pretty solidly. Negates the guy's hand speed with his own, and hits harder. AI wouldn't beat Conor. All other doable fights they can make would.
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                                                • PaperTrail07
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                                                  • 08-29-08
                                                  • 20423

                                                  #374
                                                  Yeah they cant risk anyone with ANY KIND of ground game....agree....this Boxing match would probably be won by CM...id still like to see it...AI is tough...he might test the will of CM and we could see him bitch out again...possibly tap to strikes like MIR just did...lol.....
                                                  Originally posted by RussianMike
                                                  Naw, man. AI is exactly the type of fight UFC would feed Conor and he would take right now, outside of Diaz. The most beatable guy for their star who absolutely cannot take another loss out the gate. It ain't like they wanna feed him to Porier, really, so who else is Conor supposed to fight? Both Porier and Holloway light years away from the rawdogs they were when they first fought Conor. Looking at styles, Conor beats AI pretty solidly. Negates the guy's hand speed with his own, and hits harder. AI wouldn't beat Conor. All other doable fights they can make would.
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                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                    • 08-29-08
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                                                    #375
                                                    VERY well said.... I don't think Lee gassed either...AI pretty much delt with everything he had and kept bringing the heat....MADE lee walk backwards....Ai had more heart, better cardio an is flat out smarter....when he had AI's back the body lock in, I expected elbows to soften him up then and QUICK sink of the hand and arch the back...but no. AI simply answered the phone and it was like Lee didn't wven wanna try it lol....early in the fight as well...should have been semi sticky...smh.....it DOES look like he has peaked as far as skills
                                                    Originally posted by RussianMike
                                                    The guy rode his back for maybe 6-7 minutes total fight time and never even once threatened him with a possible RNC. He had him upside down in an awkward position in the second and threw a few bombs, but didn't have the fight IQ to realize that was a way towards victory and just stopped throwing. I didn't feel it was that Lee got tired in there, It's just that he really hasn't been taught yet how to use his wrestling to completely smother mofos by constant pressure. Big as he is, it shouldn't be so easy for most of the fighters he gets down on the ground to work their ways back up as quickly as they do. Just seems to me he is too self-conscious of how he looks in there when fighting and the product he is selling the fans to be focused on actually getting that W. Otherwise, what else explains his constant desire to pretend he is a top notch striker and ignore takedown attempts. Both time AI got in trouble and taken down, I think, inexplicably, were when it was actually AI who started reaching for and closing the distance with Lee, instead of the other way around. The first time for sure. Remember he did it a few times and each time I about lost my mind and almost threw my computer out the window. LOL. But yeah, Lee is nowhere near the hype, and isn't improving as a fighter at all. Take away the RNC, and he doesn't have much of a path to victory against any top level competition. Just a self-lauded gate-keeper in his prime. Real recognize real.
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                                                    • firekillex
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                                                      #376
                                                      Mcgregor would smoke AL in all honesty.. perfect style matchup for him... Al or Cowboy wouldve been good fights or Mcgregor imo
                                                      like to see how this 155 lb weightclass goes , so many contenders its crazy... will 165lbs actually come ?? or was that promo just showing a new championship belt design
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                                                      • Sanity Check
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                                                        • 03-30-13
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                                                        #377
                                                        Originally posted by RussianMike
                                                        The guy rode his back for maybe 6-7 minutes total fight time and never even once threatened him with a possible RNC.
                                                        There's a technique Chris Holdsworth was very good @ where the RNC choke starts over someone's chin and you work it under their chin for a finish.

                                                        All Kevin Lee would have to do is learn & practice that and he would finish Raging Al in round 1 no problem.

                                                        So I don't know wtf you're talking about pretending that Kevin Lee never had a chance coming into the fight.

                                                        A fight you probably didn't bet more than $50 on cuz you were "so confident" Raging Al would win.
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                                                        • nyrider88
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                                                          #378
                                                          Originally posted by firekillex
                                                          Mcgregor would smoke AL in all honesty.. perfect style matchup for him... Al or Cowboy wouldve been good fights or Mcgregor imo
                                                          like to see how this 155 lb weightclass goes , so many contenders its crazy... will 165lbs actually come ?? or was that promo just showing a new championship belt design
                                                          no way mcgregor would smoke AL, he fights like diaz, coming forward with constant pressure and has a solid chin. the second diaz fight was so close and could have gone other way.

                                                          the top 5 155lb all have a good chance of beating mcgregor. here are top 5, khabi, tony, AL, dustin, and kevin lee. they all have good ground game and dont have to rely on their feet. they also have option to shoot for takedown if getting rocked on the feet. as for conor, we all know what happened last time he went for a takedown.
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                                                          • Thor4140
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                                                            • 02-09-08
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                                                            #379
                                                            Originally posted by nyrider88
                                                            no way mcgregor would smoke AL, he fights like diaz, coming forward with constant pressure and has a solid chin. the second diaz fight was so close and could have gone other way.

                                                            the top 5 155lb all have a good chance of beating mcgregor. here are top 5, khabi, tony, AL, dustin, and kevin lee. they all have good ground game and dont have to rely on their feet. they also have option to shoot for takedown if getting rocked on the feet. as for conor, we all know what happened last time he went for a takedown.
                                                            Al doesn’t have much head movement. I think him fighting Conor would kind of look like when Conor fought Eddie
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                                                            • firekillex
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                                                              #380
                                                              Al is very tough and comes forward , he doesnt have the chin Diaz has imo and he doesnt have that reach... Mcgregor destroyed Diaz the only thing Diaz has on him was size, cardio and an amazing chin... skill wise he smoked him , he would smoke Al imo unless hes so far gone from drugs and the rich lifestyle , which is always a question mark now IMO

                                                              the 2 hardest challenges in the top 5 for Mcgregor are Khabib and Lee style wise imo... Al and Ferguson get hit a ton and Porier already has been kod by Mcgregor and has been kod in previous fights... Overall skill wise Ferguson and Porier are the most skilled IMO, but khabib and Mcgregor are specialists and Lee is just a beast athlete who needs work still
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                                                              • kcchiefs
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                                                                #381
                                                                Originally posted by firekillex
                                                                Al is very tough and comes forward , he doesnt have the chin Diaz has imo and he doesnt have that reach... Mcgregor destroyed Diaz the only thing Diaz has on him was size, cardio and an amazing chin... skill wise he smoked him , he would smoke Al imo unless hes so far gone from drugs and the rich lifestyle , which is always a question mark now IMO

                                                                the 2 hardest challenges in the top 5 for Mcgregor are Khabib and Lee style wise imo... Al and Ferguson get hit a ton and Porier already has been kod by Mcgregor and has been kod in previous fights... Overall skill wise Ferguson and Porier are the most skilled IMO, but khabib and Mcgregor are specialists and Lee is just a beast athlete who needs work still
                                                                Would love to see Ferguson and Mcgregor go. That would be fun to watch. I think Mcgregor would beat the brakes off Lee.
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                                                                • nyrider88
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                                                                  #382
                                                                  dustin has evolved so far since he fought conor, he uses alot of wrestling and takedowns in his recent fights and it's a complete different fighter noo. to put conor and khabi in the same category is a joke. conor is an one dimensional fighter, if he gets hit or rocked, then the fight is pretty much done since he has a weak chin and cardio.
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                                                                  • firekillex
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                                                                    #383
                                                                    Originally posted by nyrider88
                                                                    dustin has evolved so far since he fought conor, he uses alot of wrestling and takedowns in his recent fights and it's a complete different fighter noo. to put conor and khabi in the same category is a joke. conor is an one dimensional fighter, if he gets hit or rocked, then the fight is pretty much done since he has a weak chin and cardio.
                                                                    dustin has evolved no doubt, but hes a stand up fighter with not the best chin.. hes very skilled everywhere but he doesnt use his grappling a ton. Khabib is a grappler , Mcgregor is a striker how is that a different category theyre both specalists in an aspect of mma lol?? People just hate on Mcgregor far too much imo, when he was really dedicated and into the game he was one of the best strikers MMA has seen , just like Khabib is one of the best grapplers MMA has ever seen... styles make fights
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                                                                    • kcchiefs
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                                                                      #384
                                                                      Originally posted by nyrider88
                                                                      dustin has evolved so far since he fought conor, he uses alot of wrestling and takedowns in his recent fights and it's a complete different fighter noo. to put conor and khabi in the same category is a joke. conor is an one dimensional fighter, if he gets hit or rocked, then the fight is pretty much done since he has a weak chin and cardio.
                                                                      To put Poirier in same category as Conor or Khabib is a joke. They have achieved way more than he can imagine right now. Maybe he gets there but right now he is down the ladder from them.
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                                                                      • firekillex
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                                                                        #385
                                                                        Originally posted by kcchiefs
                                                                        To put Poirier in same category as Conor or Khabib is a joke. They have achieved way more than he can imagine right now. Maybe he gets there but right now he is down the ladder from them.
                                                                        agreed... i actually think Porier is a darkhorse in the division he has all the talent in the world tbh.. but in big fights he hasnt shown up some times and thats just a fact.. 155 has so many talented dudes with different skills , mma math doesnt work but if you do the right matchups theres guys who can beat almost anybody like the guys who i think give Khabib the biggest challenge arent even guys in the top 3 ... i think Gaethje would give him a great fight with his athletic wrestling, unorthodox leg kick angles and pushing the pace, but i think he could get destroyed by Mcgregor , just about styles and who shows up on the night sometimes
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