Holloway v. Ortega Saturday 12/8 Toronto

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Ortega's fanboys praising him getting beat up like a pinata. Ortega's stand up got exposed. He'll never beat Holloway. Hope they have a rematch so I can go all in on Holloway.

[Thor4140]

Renato Caneiro will be the next fight and it might be better than this one. He will be Max biggest problem. I hope Max is getting paid he should be top three to five in the UFC with a pay check. Altho a meathead at times he really seems like a great guy and when he fights i aint taping shit and watching it later. I am surprised he wasn't staying southpaw. I'm not sure he missed once in that stance. Could be a big achilles heal for T City in the future.

[Thor4140]

If there is anyway in hell McGregor can make 145 then that is the fight to make. Thats a big "if" its been 3 years since he made 145, and he looks like death at the weigh ins.

Mcgregor isn't about giving rematches. He is all about chasing guys that beat him. I think he still thinks he can beat Floyd lol.

[kingdom]

No way Khabib makes 45 and Conor may very well never fight at 45 again either.

that's why dana keeps saying its more action for max at 55. he wants the big money cards. he is in max ear and max said he will go where dana says of course. for big cash.

[Hugo de Naranja]

What a performance from Holloway! Very memorable night of fights for me.

[Sanity Check]

People saying.. "What a fight Max Holloway vs Brian Ortega was"!!!

It didn't look so much like a fight as a one sided beating to me, but watevaz.

[JIBBBY]

Ortega's fanboys praising him getting beat up like a pinata. Ortega's stand up got exposed. He'll never beat Holloway. Hope they have a rematch so I can go all in on Holloway.

I agree, after seeing this fight I don't see how Ortega can beat Holloway in a rematch.. Ortega can't box with him or control him in the clinch or on the ground.. Holloway is clearly better in every area.. Ortega is screwed...

This reminds me of when Rich Franklin kept trying to rematch and beat Anderson Silva.. It was suicide for him every time as his face would get pounded on and busted up by the better striker that could always keep the fight standing..

[RussianMike]

True, but only time Max got into any trouble with Ortega was when he stopped moving and looked confused in 3rd. He def needs some fight IQ as well, seemed to fall apart when hit with the slightest adversity until he finished the round and regrouped. Much respect to Ortega, that dude is tough, but anyone could tell the fight was between Holloway's skill and Ortega's heart. The skill level striking is miles apart.

[JIBBBY]

True, but only time Max got into any trouble with Ortega was when he stopped moving and looked confused in 3rd. He def needs some fight IQ as well, seemed to fall apart when hit with the slightest adversity until he finished the round and regrouped. Much respect to Ortega, that dude is tough, but anyone could tell the fight was between Holloway's skill and Ortega's heart. The skill level striking is miles apart.

Ortega did have his moments in that 3rd round when Max stood and just traded with him in the pocket.. Still Max never got really rocked or dropped. Max turned it around in the next round and got back to movement.. Max did have that one round mental lapse though... I agree..

[PaperTrail07]

great card

[JIBBBY]

Well I didn't post pending for this event mostly because I didn't think I was gonna be around to watch it.. Plans fell thru, bet a few fights and won a couple and lost a couple but the main event loss is what really killed me in the end.. Lost $350 or so on dimes with this event and with Ortega getting worked over and finished in the end..

I need to reset restart for the next event.. This was not good!!! Not pleased with picking Ortega and busting the event like that.. I've had a bunch of break even events this year but this was a clear loss and I guess I was due.. It all came down to that last fight for me.

$200.00

$210.00

Loss

12/8/18 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1001 Brian Ortega +105* vs Max Holloway

$100.00

$146.00

Loss

12/8/18 11:59pm MMA Props Fighting 1005 Ortega wins inside distance +146* vs Not Ortega inside distance

Hedged and lost this too..

$100.00

$226.00

Loss

12/8/18 11:59pm MMA Props Fighting 1011 Holloway wins by 5 round decision +226* vs Not Holloway by 5 round decision

[JIBBBY]

[Hugo de Naranja]

Sitting one row off from Gaethje and one row in front of Ortega’s brother, mother, and father on our flight from Toronto to Denver. Gaethje a nice guy.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Gotta be careful betting against my boy Blessed Jibby. Ortega did show a lot of heart though

[JIBBBY]

Gotta be careful betting against my boy Blessed Jibby. Ortega did show a lot of heart though

How did you do with this event Hugo?

[Thor4140]

Sitting one row off from Gaethje and one row in front of Ortega’s brother, mother, and father on our flight from Toronto to Denver. Gaethje a nice guy.

Starting to think you are a pussy Hugo. Now i would have went up to Gaethje and asked him to give me one of those kicks he throws just to see how much it hurt. Really surprised you didn't.

[Sanity Check]

Sports fans might find this interesting.

Years ago, there was a surfer from hawaii known as Andy Irons who was a 3 time world champion. Out of nowhere, Andy Irons developed anxiety and mental / psychological issues. He couldn't figure out how or why it happened--kind of like how Max Holloway's issues came out of nowhere. Anyways later on a trip, Andy Irons got dengue fever. Tragically he died young. The autopsy found faint traces of meth in his system which was shocking as his wife and everyone close to him knew he smoked weed but were positive he never did meth.

Best analysis says whoever Andy Irons got his weed from was lacing it with meth, which caused his anxiety and mental issues. (Ditto with everyone who got anxiety smoking weed & couldn't figure out why.)

Max could had something similar happen to him. Hawaii is a liberal democrat run state like chicago, california, new york et al. By that alone you can probably guess it is kind of a fkd up place.

Needed Ortega to finish a few parlays but Holloway winning works for me. Would be happy no matter who won that fight both guys so fkn good.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Starting to think you are a pussy Hugo. Now i would have went up to Gaethje and asked him to give me one of those kicks he throws just to see how much it hurt. Really surprised you didn't.

Confirmed pussy

[PaperTrail07]

any normal person would just admit he did meth LOl…..laced it on the weed LOL....come on

Sports fans might find this interesting.

Years ago, there was a surfer from hawaii known as Andy Irons who was a 3 time world champion. Out of nowhere, Andy Irons developed anxiety and mental / psychological issues. He couldn't figure out how or why it happened--kind of like how Max Holloway's issues came out of nowhere. Anyways later on a trip, Andy Irons got dengue fever. Tragically he died young. The autopsy found faint traces of meth in his system which was shocking as his wife and everyone close to him knew he smoked weed but were positive he never did meth.

Best analysis says whoever Andy Irons got his weed from was lacing it with meth, which caused his anxiety and mental issues. (Ditto with everyone who got anxiety smoking weed & couldn't figure out why.)

Max could had something similar happen to him. Hawaii is a liberal democrat run state like chicago, california, new york et al. By that alone you can probably guess it is kind of a fkd up place.

Needed Ortega to finish a few parlays but Holloway winning works for me. Would be happy no matter who won that fight both guys so fkn good.

[Thor4140]

Sports fans might find this interesting.

Years ago, there was a surfer from hawaii known as Andy Irons who was a 3 time world champion. Out of nowhere, Andy Irons developed anxiety and mental / psychological issues. He couldn't figure out how or why it happened--kind of like how Max Holloway's issues came out of nowhere. Anyways later on a trip, Andy Irons got dengue fever. Tragically he died young. The autopsy found faint traces of meth in his system which was shocking as his wife and everyone close to him knew he smoked weed but were positive he never did meth.

Best analysis says whoever Andy Irons got his weed from was lacing it with meth, which caused his anxiety and mental issues. (Ditto with everyone who got anxiety smoking weed & couldn't figure out why.)

Max could had something similar happen to him. Hawaii is a liberal democrat run state like chicago, california, new york et al. By that alone you can probably guess it is kind of a fkd up place.

Needed Ortega to finish a few parlays but Holloway winning works for me. Would be happy no matter who won that fight both guys so fkn good.

The theories get dumber by the post. You are another Dunning Kruger effect child.

[Sanity Check]

any normal person would just admit he did meth LOl…..laced it on the weed LOL....come on

Drug dealers lace their weed with meth cuz they think it'll make their product more addictive.

Similar to how sugar is in everything in the supermarket to get you addicted--potential leading cause of obesity.

I thought everyone knew that.

The theories get dumber by the post. You are another Dunning Kruger effect child.

What's "dumb" about what I said exactly?

I see you Trump haters running around like headless chickens calling people names.

There was never credibility to it before and there sure as hell isn't now.

Run along before you injure yourself trying to use your brain for a change.

[Hugo de Naranja]

UFC 231: Holloway vs. Ortega Picks:
Aleksandar Rakic Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Carlos Diego Ferreira Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Chad Laprise Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Matthew Lopez Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Eryk Anders Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Jessica Eye Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Olivier Aubin-Mercier Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
Claudia Gadelha Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
Thiago Santos Round 2 TKO (Punches)
Hakeem Dawodu Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
Gunnar Nelson Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Valentina Shevchenko Split Decision (48-47 x2, 47-48)
Max Holloway Unanimous Decision (49-46 x3)

[Hugo de Naranja]

UFC 231: Holloway vs. Ortega

Fight Pass Prelims:

Fight #1: Rakic vs. Clark
Rakic+Clark Under 1.5 (+140) +1.4u
Rakic Submission (+740) -.5u

Result: Aleksandar Rakic Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Fight: +0.9u
Card: +0.9u

Fight #2: Ferreira vs. Nelson (DEBUT)
Ferreira ITD (+100) +1u

Result: Carlos Diego Ferreira Round 2 TKO (Punches)
Fight: +1u
Card: +1.9u

Fight #3: Laprise vs. Lima
Laprise ITD (-110) -1.1u
Laprise KO/TKO (+110) -1u
Laprise Round 1 (+225) -1u

Added Hedge:
Lima Decision (+500) -.5u

Result: Dhiego Lima Round 1 KO (Punch)
Fight: -3.6u
Card: -1.7u

Fight #4: Lopez vs. Katona
Lopez (+220) -1u
Lopez ITD (+475) -.5u
Lopez Submission (+900) -.5u
Lopez Round 1 (+1000) -.5u

Result: Brad Katona Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
Fight: -2.5u
Card: -4.2u

Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

Fight #5: Anders vs. Theodorou
Anders Scorecards = No Action (-165) +0u
Anders ITD (+450) -1u
Anders Round 1 (+700) -.5u
Anders Submission (+1750) -.5u

Hedge:
Theodorou Decision (+160) +1.6u

Added Hedge:
Theodorou Round 3 (+2050) -.5u

Result: Elias Theodorou Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Fight: -0.9u
Card: -5.1u

Fight #6: Eye vs. Chookagian
Eye (+155) +1.55u
Eye Decision (+220) +2.2u

Result: Jessica Eye Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Fight: +3.75u
Card: -1.35u

Fight #7: Aubin-Mercier vs. Burns
Aubin-Mercier (-105) -2.63u
Aubin-Mercier Submission (+900) -1u

Hedge:
Burns ITD (+222) -1.5u

Result: Gilbert Burns Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
Fight: -5.13u
Card: -6.48u

Fight #8: Gadelha vs. Ansaroff
Ansaroff (+260) +2.6u
Ansaroff Round 3 (+2300) -.5u

Result: Nina Ansaroff Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
Fight: +2.1u
Card: -4.38u

Main Card:

Fight #9: Santos vs. Manuwa
Santos+Manuwa Won’t Start Round 2 (-110) -1.1u
Santos Round 2 (+488) +4.88u

Hedge:
Manuwa KO/TKO (+255) -1u

Result: Thiago Santos Round 2 KO (Punch)
Fight: +2.78u
Card: -1.6u

Fight #10: Dawodu vs. Bochniak
Dawodu -3.5 (+130) +1.95u
Dawodu Decision (+164) +1.64u

Hedge(s):
Bochniak Scorecards = No Action (+215) +0u
Bochniak ITD (+500) -1u

Result: Hakeem Dawodu Split Decision (30-27 x2, 28-29)
Fight: +2.59u
Card: +0.99u

Fight #11: Nelson vs. Oliveira
Nelson (-120) +1u
Nelson+Oliveira Under 1.5 (+100) -1u
Nelson ITD (+125) +2.5u
Nelson Submission (+150) +2.25u
Nelson Round 1 (+275) -1u
Nelson Round 2 (+425) +2.13u

Hedge(s):
Oliveira KO/TKO (+245) -1u
Oliveira Round 2 (+650) -.5u

Added:
Nelson+Oliveira Draw (+8500) -.25u

Result: Gunnar Nelson Round 2 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Fight: +4.13u
Card: +5.12u

Fight #12: Shevchenko vs. Jedrzejczyk
Jedrzejczyk (+255) -2u
Jedrzejczyk Decision (+350) -.5u

Hedge:
Shevchenko KO/TKO (+522) -1u

Added Hedge:
Shevchenko Split/Majority Decision (+492) -.5u

Result: Valentina Shevchenko Unanimous Decision (49-46 x3)
Fight: -4u
Card: +1.12u

Fight #13: Holloway (C) vs. Ortega
Holloway (-138) +5u
Holloway -5.5 (+150) +6u
Holloway Unanimous Decision (+375) -2u
Holloway KO/TKO (+460) +4.6u
Holloway Round 3 (+1025) -1.5u
Holloway Round 4 (+1425) +7.13u
Holloway Round 5 (+2025) -.5u
Holloway+Ortega Draw (+8500) -.25u

Hedge(s):
Ortega Submission (+242) -3u
Ortega Round 3 (+900) -1u
Ortega Round 5 (+1700) -.5u
Ortega Split/Majority Decision (+1600) -.5u

Added Hedge:
Ortega Round 4 (+875) -.5u

Result: Max Holloway Round 4 TKO (Doctor Stoppage)
Fight: +12.98u
Card: +14.1u

Straight Parlays:
Rakic/Laprise (-147) -2.94u
Laprise/Anders (+118) -1u
Santos/Dawodu (+119) +1.19u
Anders/Dawodu (+135) -1u
Dawodu/Nelson (+171) +1.71u

Results: See Above
Fight: -2.04u
Card: +12.06u

Prop Parlays:
Rakic -3.5/Laprise -3.5 (-112) -1.5u
Gadelha+Ansaroff GD/Shevchenko+Jedrzejczyk GD (-102) +2u
Laprise+Lima WGD/Nelson+Oliveira WGD (+120) +1.2u
Laprise -3.5/Dawodu (+133) -1u
Nelson/Shevchenko+Jedrzejczyk GD (+145) +2.18u
Dawodu/Nelson/Shevchenko+Jedrzejczyk O4.5 (+293) +1.46u
Rakic ITD/Ferreira+Nelson WGD/Laprise+Lima WGD (+323) +1.62u
Dawodu Decision/Nelson+Oliveira U1.5 (+415) -.75u
Anders+Theodorou GD/Eye+Chookagian GD/Aubin-Mercier+Burns GD/Gadelha+Ansaroff GD/Dawodu+Bochniak GD (+461) +2.3u
Aubin-Mercier/Gadelha Decision/Santos KO (+471) -.5u
Rakic+Clark WGD/Ferreira+Nelson WGD/Laprise+Lima WGD/Lopez+Katona WGD (+827) -.5u
Lopez/Anders+Theodorou GD/Eye (+845) -.5u

Results: See Above
Fight: +6.01u
Card: +18.07u

Live Betting:
Ansaroff (+220) +2.2u after R1
Theodorou (+350) +3.5u after R2
Ortega (+500) -1u after R2

Results: See Above
Fight: +4.7u
Card: +22.77u

Full Card Props:
Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+210) -1.25u
Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+550) -.5u
Over 9.5 Fights Go Distance (+1595) -.25u
Over 10.5 Fights Go Distance (+6675) -.25u
Over 11.5 Fights Go Distance (+49400) -.25u

FOTN: Holloway+Ortega
POTN: Holloway, Santos
Fastest Submission: Nelson R2 (4:37)
Fastest KO: Lima R1 (1:37)
Decisions: 7
Results: See Above
Fights: -2.5u
Final Card Total = +20.27u

Multi-Event Parlays:
Shore/Ferreira -3.5 (-120) +2u
Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Cyborg (-114) 2.28u to win 2u
Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Font (+114) 1u
Santos+Manuwa WSR3/Hooker (+124) 1u
Santos/Cyborg (+130) 2.5u
Dawodu/Dillashaw (+133) 2.5u
Ferreira+Nelson WGD/A. Lee (+141) 1.5u

Results: See Above
Fights: +2u, 10.78u of MEPs Carry Over to Future Events
Multi-Event Parlays = +2u, 10.78u of MEPs Carry Over to Future Events

[Hugo de Naranja]

Really enjoyable night of fights. This is the second best card I've ever attended live, settling in behind UFC 218 in Detroit last year. Very exciting fights and a great crowd in Toronto. I also battled back after a tough prelims for an excellent betting result.

Profited 20.27u with bets on Rakic+Clark U1.5, Ferreira ITD, Eye ML + Decision, Ansaroff ML, Santos R2, Dawodu -3.5 + Decision, Nelson ML + ITD + Submission + R2, Holloway ML + Holloway -5.5 + KO/TKO + R4, Prop Parlays, and Live Betting. Also won 2u on Multi-Event Parlays with 10.78u of MEPs carrying over to future events.

The Holloway win and the two Exact Picks on the Rakic and Eye fights were memorable. Hoping to finish the year strong.

[frankieunits2685]

I am sad this fight is over lol.

Lee/Iaquinta should be fun this weekend!!

[Thor4140]

Drug dealers lace their weed with meth cuz they think it'll make their product more addictive.

Similar to how sugar is in everything in the supermarket to get you addicted--potential leading cause of obesity.

I thought everyone knew that.




What's "dumb" about what I said exactly?

I see you Trump haters running around like headless chickens calling people names.

There was never credibility to it before and there sure as hell isn't now.

Run along before you injure yourself trying to use your brain for a change.

Anyone who can’t fathom that Trump Is a con man and always will be isn’t exactly the person who should call other dumb. Should i show people the website u get your news from? You are a tea party nitwit at the highest of levels.

[Sanity Check]

Anyone who can’t fathom that Trump Is a con man and always will be isn’t exactly the person who should call other dumb. Should i show people the website u get your news from? You are a tea party nitwit at the highest of levels.

.

Your mouth is wide open and your eyes are wide shut.

You got nothing on me.

If you want to argue the point, go ahead.

The only thing that'll happen is you'll run for your safe space.

[Demonata]

Anyone who can’t fathom that Trump Is a con man and always will be isn’t exactly the person who should call other dumb. Should i show people the website u get your news from? You are a tea party nitwit at the highest of levels.

I'm a con man too. I'm sure lots of members break the law. So what.

[Thor4140]

.

Your mouth is wide open and your eyes are wide shut.

You got nothing on me.

If you want to argue the point, go ahead.

The only thing that'll happen is you'll run for your safe space.

Yeah okay lol

[Thor4140]

I'm a con man too. I'm sure lots of members break the law. So what.

I’m not talking about public intoxication or drinking and driving. I’m talking about stiffing other Americans out of their money and knowing you are doing it. I’m not talking about driving 70 in a 55 zone.

[JIBBBY]

Hugo can make a living betting MMA I'm convinced.. Dude is solid..

Hugo puts in the work and works the odds on props with every event and every fight.. It pays off for him.. Gotta put in the capping work and have vision.. Learn from this man people...

[Hugo de Naranja]

Hugo can make a living betting MMA I'm convinced.. Dude is solid..

Hugo puts in the work and works the odds on props with every event and every fight.. It pays off for him.. Gotta put in the capping work and have vision.. Learn from this man people...

Thanks man that means a lot.

[frankieunits2685]

Great work Hugo! OG status.

[Sanity Check]

Hugo can make a living betting MMA I'm convinced.. Dude is solid..

No.

Don't confuse Hugo and make him think he's better than he is. Its normal for him to blow almost every play and be in a deep hole leading into the main card which luckily for him, saves him.

Its also normal for people to get burned tailing his picks cuz they don't keep up with his live bets and live hedges in the thread.

That's not solid work.

Thanks.

[PaperTrail07]

Hugo is solid.....and live bets keep you in the game......have to use all your skills to make it in IMO....I personally don't live bet but I stay VERY active hedging with KO props round props ect......pretty cool the entire forum was on Santos Shev and Holloway.....theres nothing shitty about that....

No.

Don't confuse Hugo and make him think he's better than he is. Its normal for him to blow almost every play and be in a deep hole leading into the main card which luckily for him, saves him.

Its also normal for people to get burned tailing his picks cuz they don't keep up with his live bets and live hedges in the thread.

That's not solid work.

Thanks.