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  • Riot
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    • 04-16-09
    • 437

    #1
    UFC 103 Rumors
    I didnt write this, i got it from BloodyElbow

    Recent comments (and fanposts on this site) have suggested that UFC 103, which is currently expected to take place in Dallas, Texas on September 19th, is lacking star power. With rumored bouts including Frank Trigg vs. Josh Koscheck, Tyson Griffin vs. Hermes Franca, and Efrain Escudero vs. Cole Miller, some have argued that the card is worthy of being televised for free on Spike TV.

    Obviously, with the event three months away, and the card far from complete, it's a bit silly to make such proclamations, and according to a new report from InsideFights.com, the UFC 103 card is getting a hell of a lot better:

    Just a disclaimer before I get to the good stuff: InsideFights is a new source for me, but after doing a fair amount of research, the site seems to be fairly legit, and they don't appear to be reaching to make wild rumors sound more legit (cough...MMABay...cough).

    A heavyweight contenders fight between prospects Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez could serve as the co-main event for UFC 103 on September 19th in Dallas, sources have told Inside Fights.

    The bout, which has not been agreed to, could potentially serve as the co-main event alongside a welterweight bout between Texas native Mike Swick and future UFC Hall of Famer Matt Hughes. The heavyweight fight would elevate either Carwin or Velasquez into instant contendership for the heavyweight title, and a win by Swick would make him the number one contender to Georges St. Pierre’s welterweight championship.

    Another fight that has been discussed internally is Chuck Liddell facing Rich Franklin. Dana White has seemingly accepted the idea that Chuck is going to want another fight, and he would much rather have Liddell inside the UFC cage than to have him go and be a huge drawing card for Strikeforce or Affliction.

    Just a bit of an update: when contacted by FiveOuncesofPain for an interview today, Shane Carwin mentioned that he had heard nothing from the UFC about a Velasquez fight, but as we saw with Todd Duffee finding out about his UFC 99 fight being canceled by reading internet forums, it seems that the UFC often isn't quick to fill in fighters on the company's internal matchmaking discussions.

    Hughes, Liddell, and Franklin are three of the biggest draws the UFC has ever had, and to have them all on the same card would be absolutely huge for the UFC in terms of pay-per-view buys. When you add in Carwin and Velasquez, who are arguably the future of the UFC heavyweight division, and Swick, who could be the future of the welterweight division if he continues on his winning ways, UFC 103 has all the makings of a blockbuster card.

    It should be noted also that Hughes was already rumored for this card as a possible opponent for Josh Koscheck, who's now expected to fight the returning Frank Trigg, so it's not at all surprising to see Hughes's name pop up again. Swick hails from Houston and would be a natural fit for a Texas event.

    The Liddell issue is intriguing as well, since after all the talk about Dana forcing Chuck to retire following the Shogun loss, it doesn't really seem like anything definitive has come out of the situation. Furthermore, on the "Inside the Octagon" segment that aired during the TUF 9 Finale, Dana almost seem resigned to the fact that he was going to eventually have to let Chuck have one more fight. Franklin would be a phenomenal retirement fight for Liddell; a win for Rich would establish him as a true force at 205, while a win for Chuck would cement his legacy, and allow him to retire on a high note.

    As always, we'll wait to see which, if any of these rumors pan out. But I for one as fan, am crossing my fingers that they all end up on the UFC 103 card.
  • Bread
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    • 03-16-08
    • 23726

    #2
    That would indeed be a stacked card, but I'm not sure how I might react the next time I see either Franklin or Wanderlei after they collectively crushed my spirit a couple weeks ago
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    • The HOFF
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      • 07-02-08
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      #3
      A welterweight contest between Mike Swick and Martin Kampmann is likely for UFC 103, MMAWeekly.com has learned from sources close to the fight.

      While bout agreements have not been signed, both parties have agreed to the match-up.
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      • brooks85
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        • 01-05-09
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        #4
        awesome matchup, my early lean would be swick.
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        • The HOFF
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          • 07-02-08
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          #5
          After conflicting reports and questions about Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic's standing with the Japanese-based DREAM organization and the UFC, the Croatian fighter is, in fact, returning to the octagon.

          MMAjunkie.com first reported on Wednesday that Junior Dos Santos (8-1 MMA, 2-0 UFC) had been pulled from a UFC 102 bout with Justin McCully, and sources close to the negotiations now tell us he is set to fight fellow heavyweight Filipovic (25-6-2 MMA, 2-2 UFC) at UFC 103.
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          • The HOFF
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            • 07-02-08
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            #6
            A lightweight contest before former champion Sean Sherk (33-4-1 MMA, 7-4 UFC) and Gleison Tibau (12-7 MMA, 5-4 UFC), who will make his 10th appearance in the octagon, is nearly set for UFC 103.
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            • The HOFF
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              • 07-02-08
              • 4847

              #7
              MAIN EVENT

              Dan Henderson vs Rich Franklin II
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              • THE_LOCKSMITH
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-25-08
                • 7237

                #8
                Originally posted by The HOFF
                MAIN EVENT

                Dan Henderson vs Rich Franklin II
                Don't like this fight. Hendo is coming off a big win and now would be the tiume if ever for a Henderson Silva rematch. Now the rematch with Franklin will be lackluster, i see Rich squeezing out a decision and that will take the Hendo hype down
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                • brooks85
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-05-09
                  • 44709

                  #9
                  ya this matchup sucks for dan but easy money. Dan going to win this one again, rich has nothing to beat him with. Dan definitely won the first 2 rounds of the last fight, the judge that scored 30-27 franklin must have been smoking some good stuff. I dont get dana's motive here but Dan only guy to give the spyder a contest, thats the rematch everyone wants to see.
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                  • THE_LOCKSMITH
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-25-08
                    • 7237

                    #10
                    The only reason for this match is that they needed a headlinner for the 103 card and these were the only ones who were not booked. They have not said what weight class the fight will be in which is another reason this fight is strange. Henderson has moved too 185 for the title run at 185 and franklin has made it clear he no lobger wants to fight at 185. Since Wandy Silva is moving down to 185, a rematch between Henderson and W Silva would have made more sense to me
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                    • Bread
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-16-08
                      • 23726

                      #11
                      I have some serious avenging to do in the wallet concerning Mr. Franklin.
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                      • The HOFF
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                        • 07-02-08
                        • 4847

                        #12
                        Frank Trigg +280
                        Josh Koscheck -370

                        Martin Kampmann +140
                        Mick Swick -170

                        Hermes Franca +180
                        Tyson Griffin -240

                        Cole Miller +130
                        Efrain Escudero -160

                        Junior Dos Santos +100
                        Mirko Cro Cop -130
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                        • The HOFF
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                          • 07-02-08
                          • 4847

                          #13
                          Two that jump out at me:

                          Swick -170

                          Dos Santos +100
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                          • The HOFF
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                            • 07-02-08
                            • 4847

                            #14
                            Former UFC heavyweight contender Vladimir Matyushenko (22-4 MMA, 3-2 UFC) is the latest UFC veteran to return to the organization, as "The Janitor" will now face Croatian light heavyweight Igor Pokrajac (21-5 MMA, 0-0 UFC) at UFC 103.
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                            • The HOFF
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                              • 07-02-08
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                              #15
                              MAIN CARD
                              • Vitor Belfort vs. Rich Franklin
                              • Junior Dos Santos vs. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic
                              • Martin Kampmann vs. Mike Swick
                              • Josh Koscheck vs. Frank Trigg
                              • Hermes Franca vs. Tyson Griffin

                              PRELIMINARY CARD
                              • Efrain Escudero vs. Cole Miller
                              • Jim Miller vs. Thiago Tavares
                              • Dan Lauzon vs. Rafaello Oliveira
                              • Paul Daley vs. Brian Foster
                              • Tomasz Drwal vs. Drew McFedries
                              • Jason Brilz vs. Eliot Marshall
                              • Vladimir Matyushenko vs. Igor Pokrajac
                              • Rafael dos Anjos vs. Rob Emerson
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                              • illmatick
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-05-09
                                • 5456

                                #16
                                Originally posted by The HOFF
                                Two that jump out at me:

                                Swick -170

                                Dos Santos +100
                                I was thinking the same thing, add efrain escudero to that list, probably my best bet, need to break down a bit more film on Cole Miller before I make it a large play but I have a pretty good read on both fighters
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                                • brooks85
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 44709

                                  #17
                                  I will be on Cole huge. The size, reach and striking all go to cole.
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                                  • illmatick
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                                    • 01-05-09
                                    • 5456

                                    #18
                                    Efrain by far has the better stand-up and will dominate there, only chance cole has is a sub off his back which is where he will be for most of the fight, Efrain tough to submit
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                                    • The HOFF
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                                      • 07-02-08
                                      • 4847

                                      #19
                                      Initial lean for me was Cole Miller, but still undecided as of now.
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                                      • brooks85
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                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 44709

                                        #20
                                        Efrains only chance to win would be a submission. He beat most of his weak competion by overwhelming bjj game against rookies. His only good opponent would be nover and that fight was close. Cole also has a noticeable size/reach advantage and has fought far better competition from day 1. Cole also has an amazing camp behind him, if efrain can deal a heavy dose takedowns he could win a decision.
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                                        • brooks85
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                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 44709

                                          #21
                                          coles fight with lauzon showed a lot to me, how good cole was but I thought he was too small then. Now he is beef'd up.
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                                          • illmatick
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-05-09
                                            • 5456

                                            #22
                                            going to re-watch a few fights on Miller and I will come up with a better synopsis for you brooks,

                                            Gorgel/Miller
                                            jeremey stephens/Miller
                                            Garcia/ Miller

                                            all fights I will rewatch, dont remember seeing the Garcia fight, Garcia way overrated but If he dominated the standup in that one I may tone down my bet
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                                            • brooks85
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                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 44709

                                              #23
                                              Let me know your report because Ill need to do some more watching myself. Its just odd that you like efrain huge and I like cole huge, we never really seem on opposite sides, especially on big plays.
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                                              • Eccocide
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-12-09
                                                • 2126

                                                #24
                                                Definitely leaning Cole in this one. He will have a huge reach advantage and has great jitz. I'm assuming Efrain is going to try and rely on his wrestling, but I just don't see it happening, especially at that price.

                                                Also they just announced Matyushenko will make his return to the UFC against one of CroCop's training partners on this card. Explain to me how they are gunna fit 13 fights on this card lol. I know theres no title fights but they've been tight for time lately with some of the 11 fight cards.
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                                                • illmatick
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                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 5456

                                                  #25
                                                  brooks so far I have rewatched the efrain/nover fight and the Gurgel/ Miller fight, have to tell you the fight between nover and efrain was not close at all, first 2 rounds were dominated by efrain, I see no way you could give nover either of those rounds, nover probably took the 3rd though, Efrain basically just took nover down at will the entire fight, I will retract on my statement about efrain by far having the better standup but he does have great head movement and changes levels quite well which he will need to do against miller. The gurgel Miller fight was primarily a stand-up fight that Gurgel would have won had he not got caught in a triangle the last 15 seconds of the fight, Gurgel had no problems closing the distance on miller, Miller kept leaving himself open for the right hook and Gurgel kept landing it, rocked miller real bad in the first but didnt jump on him the way he should have, very questionable chin imo but dont think efrain is the guy to test it, Miller is not going to stuff efrain's takedowns so expect 70% of this fight to take place with miller on his back which isnt all bad if you saw that triangle he caught Gurgel in but to be honest I see efrain being able to power out of any sub Miller is able to lock him into much like he did against the Kimora and arm-bar that Nover had him in, still trying to find the stephens/miller and Garcia/miller fights but I know stephens knocked miller out, Millers skills off his back are enough for me to avoid a huge play on Efrain but I should have at least a mid size play on him
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                                                  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                                    • 08-25-08
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by illmatick
                                                    brooks so far I have rewatched the efrain/nover fight and the Gurgel/ Miller fight, have to tell you the fight between nover and efrain was not close at all, first 2 rounds were dominated by efrain, I see no way you could give nover either of those rounds, nover probably took the 3rd though, Efrain basically just took nover down at will the entire fight, I will retract on my statement about efrain by far having the better standup but he does have great head movement and changes levels quite well which he will need to do against miller. The gurgel Miller fight was primarily a stand-up fight that Gurgel would have won had he not got caught in a triangle the last 15 seconds of the fight, Gurgel had no problems closing the distance on miller, Miller kept leaving himself open for the right hook and Gurgel kept landing it, rocked miller real bad in the first but didnt jump on him the way he should have, very questionable chin imo but dont think efrain is the guy to test it, Miller is not going to stuff efrain's takedowns so expect 70% of this fight to take place with miller on his back which isnt all bad if you saw that triangle he caught Gurgel in but to be honest I see efrain being able to power out of any sub Miller is able to lock him into much like he did against the Kimora and arm-bar that Nover had him in, still trying to find the stephens/miller and Garcia/miller fights but I know stephens knocked miller out, Millers skills off his back are enough for me to avoid a huge play on Efrain but I should have at least a mid size play on him

                                                    100% agree, Miller's reach had no effect in the Gurgel and was on his way to a loss until that triangle. This is Novers 1st fight since winning TUF but his take downs should control this fight, miller can't stop his takedowns.
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                                                    • brooks85
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                                                      • 01-05-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      To me to comes down to experience. The quality of opponent from cole/stephens/gurgel is on the next level compared to efrain. I have no reason to believe efrain can take miller down at will or withstand the stand up game. I dont think he has faced anyone on millers level. Gurgel, a submission artist, always engages in stand up wars and has agressive striking. But, I dont think you can compare gurgels standup to efrains. Going through efrains record he has beat low level fighters. Aside from nover, who is still young, his best win is regan. Coles camp alone is better comp than efrains fight record. I guess for me its just I know what cole brings to the table and I am not sold on Efrain. Not because I dont think he can do it but he hasn't proven anything to me.
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                                                      • Bread
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                                                        • 03-16-08
                                                        • 23726

                                                        #28
                                                        The Miller-Efrain fight is definitely an interesting chess match. Man I'd love to see Efrain take this goofball, but Miller has looked impressive of late. Hmmmm....
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                                                        • Riot
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                                                          • 04-16-09
                                                          • 437

                                                          #29
                                                          i like swick and the janitor. The Janitor is an awesome wrestler, very underrated fighter , he lost his last fight but he has been very consistant thru out his career.

                                                          P.S.
                                                          im back in the states. i should be on alot more now.
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                                                          • illmatick
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                                                            • 01-05-09
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                                                            #30
                                                            nice to see you back riot, who you like for 102, looking at todd Duffe -125 as a possible play right now
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                                                            • Eccocide
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                                                              • 01-12-09
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                                                              #31
                                                              Pretty cool that they are showing an hour of undercard fights live before the PPV on Spike!!!
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                                                              • Riot
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                                                                • 04-16-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                i was pretty set on that todd duffee kid when he was a major underdog against a horrible Al Turk. Tho the Trashing machine has beat alot of average guys in KOTC, he got lucky against Pat Barry with the guilitine. PAt Barry has the BJJ of a white belt. I think this one is a toss up really.
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                                                                • brooks85
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 44709

                                                                  #33
                                                                  good to see ya back

                                                                  they just released the line for drwal/mcfedries, things just keep getting better and better for this event. Im going to put the bookies in a choke that night.
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                                                                  • Saunders FTW
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 03-10-08
                                                                    • 986

                                                                    #34
                                                                    UFC 103 card looks very strong
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                                                                    • The HOFF
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-02-08
                                                                      • 4847

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Vitor Belfort +140
                                                                      Rich Franklin -170

                                                                      Frank Trigg +280
                                                                      Josh Koscheck -370

                                                                      Mirko Filipovic +110
                                                                      Junior Dos Santos -140

                                                                      Martin Kampmann +140
                                                                      Mick Swick -170

                                                                      Hermes Franca +190
                                                                      Tyson Griffin -250

                                                                      Cole Miller +130
                                                                      Efrain Escudero -160

                                                                      Tomasz Drwal +125
                                                                      Drew McFedries -155

                                                                      Rafael Dos Anjos -105
                                                                      Rob Emerson -125
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