DWCS 5 (August 8. 2017)

**Shagdogy** · 08-08-17, 04:07 PM

Is there anywhere to get weigh in info for these fights? Nothing to tell if these guys had a rough cut or not.

Marquez said last week he had a real hard cut but never would have known. Simon is dropping almost to 3-1 and is like to bet him there, but what if this movement has something to with a bad cut? How would we know?

**Shagdogy** · 08-08-17, 04:17 PM

Damn. Didn't put my bets in and Petties moved to -200 quick

**JIBBBY** · 08-08-17, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Not betting, but picking winners I like Simon and Rodriguez the most. Prob gonna parlay those guys up for -120. Simon is getting a little cheaper... if he somehow hits 3-1 I'll play him.

Really? Come on man!!!!!

**Shagdogy** · 08-08-17, 05:42 PM

^ read the rest Jibbs. I'm gonna play some small stuff. All I was saying was betting aside, meaning not taking into account the lines, the two I'm most confident in winning tonight are Simon and Rodriguez. Here's my plays:

Rodriguez/Simon parlay, +106, 1.5u
Petties +200, .5u (bad line)

That's all, but I'm tempted to just string bets on this card until I hit 1-2u profit and quit. I think that's doable, but prob a bad habit.

**Rich Benjamins** · 08-08-17, 06:04 PM

I doubled down on Ricky. -300? GTFO. That dude is a tremendous athlete, and has great cardio. Sure, he got clipped by Dos Santos, but I watched that fight. Simon was winning decisively until he got caught. And Dos Santos is a killer. If he put his hands in his pockets, then he'd get arrested for concealing deadly weapons! buh da bing!

Frelow hasn't KOed anybody in his pro career. He just gets subs, armbars, guillotines. No way Ricky is going to get caught in a guillotine. Only way he can lose is by armbar, very unlikley.

**Na_mean** · 08-08-17, 06:09 PM

Pending 8 Aug 6:00pmMixed Martial Arts - UFCAlex Perez v Kevin GrayFight: Alex Perez ML-172 0.15728 0.0915

Good luck to all.....cheers fellas

**Shagdogy** · 08-08-17, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by Rich Benjamins

I doubled down on Ricky. -300? GTFO. That dude is a tremendous athlete, and has great cardio. Sure, he got clipped by Dos Santos, but I watched that fight. Simon was winning decisively until he got caught. And Dos Santos is a killer. If he put his hands in his pockets, then he'd get arrested for concealing deadly weapons! buh da bing!

Frelow hasn't KOed anybody in his pro career. He just gets subs, armbars, guillotines. No way Ricky is going to get caught in a guillotine. Only way he can lose is by armbar, very unlikley.

I feel you. I think this is Ricky Simon's night but something in my gut is telling me to be a bit more reserved than when I went for Phillips or O'Malley.

**Shagdogy** · 08-08-17, 06:44 PM

Added Sims -110 for .73u just cause I feel like gambling.

Looking at throwing down on Simon.

**Rich Benjamins** · 08-08-17, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

I feel you. I think this is Ricky Simon's night but something in my gut is telling me to be a bit more reserved than when I went for Phillips or O'Malley.

I feel you as well. It's possible Simon isn't too solid and could get beat by a crafty vet. We'll see...

**JIBBBY** · 08-08-17, 07:14 PM

We all need Sims here. Come fellas let's get this and start off strong.. Send Graves to the Grave!!

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GL guys!!

**JIBBBY** · 08-08-17, 07:18 PM

I can't believe I'm betting on these slobs... Sims looks like garbage.. Already gassed..

**Shagdogy** · 08-08-17, 07:23 PM

Most hideous fight I've ever watched. These guys SUUUUUUCCK.

**spurginobili** · 08-08-17, 07:27 PM

I know, I was expecting these guys to throw down

Graves might win, but he didn't get the memo

This is about a UFC contract and Dana wants action, especially among heavyweights

Had the under...lol

**JIBBBY** · 08-08-17, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by turbozed

Ended up taking a few O/U's

Shelton/Sims O1.5 for +140
Simon/Frelow U2.5 for +170

Small bet on Frelow as a 3-1 underdog. He has the ability to hurt Simon with his hands, but he will most likely just get taken down repeatedly.

Solid call Turbs!!!!

**Shagdogy** · 08-08-17, 07:28 PM

Give me Simon/Frelow please, I'd like to see a fight.

**firekillex** · 08-08-17, 07:28 PM

that was sad to watch.... ive seen flyweights hit harder then these heavyweights

**Demonata** · 08-08-17, 07:30 PM

Sims worst ever

**Rich Benjamins** · 08-08-17, 07:46 PM

i think Simon got the first rd. He should stop backing up so much though, try to counter Frelow's flurries.

**Shagdogy** · 08-08-17, 07:47 PM

Frelow came to fight. Simon better have gas tank. If he gasses he could get KO or guillotined.

**turbozed** · 08-08-17, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Frelow came to fight. Simon better have gas tank. If he gasses he could get KO or guillotined.

Really hoping that happens. But I think this goes to a decision unfortunately. Frelow has got a good shot here to win it.

**Demonata** · 08-08-17, 07:53 PM

Simon sucking bad?

**Rich Benjamins** · 08-08-17, 07:53 PM

Our boy Simon needs to learn to counter, he has no get back offense.

**Rich Benjamins** · 08-08-17, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

Simon sucking bad?

I think he's winning but he's def not a world beater. He just needs to counter more.

**turbozed** · 08-08-17, 07:58 PM

Simon never should've been a 4-1 favorite. Frelow was very close to winning that fight if he just avoided one takedown at the end.

**firekillex** · 08-08-17, 07:59 PM

very solid scrap ... if frelow can work on his TDD he could be a really solid fighter
simon will get the nod though

**Shagdogy** · 08-08-17, 08:00 PM

Simon actually countered better in the 3rd. Maybe he was waiting for the power to drop off a little? Simon came through in round 3.

**JIBBBY** · 08-08-17, 08:00 PM

The big favorite hits.. Wrestling is ruling the bouts on this card so far..

**Rich Benjamins** · 08-08-17, 08:01 PM

OMG split decision. I almost lost my ass. Ricky should've gotten unanimous nod but the dude needs to work on his counters or he's gonna just get run over by a good UFC fighter.

**firekillex** · 08-08-17, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

The big favorite hits.. Wrestling is ruling the bouts on this card so far..

wouldnt even call that first fight wrestling that was just 2 trash fighters doing trash things lolll

2nd fight was 2 true mma fighters, wrestling for sure won simon that scrap though, he has solid takedowns but needs to learn how to grapple while ontop if he wants to make it anywhere

**Demonata** · 08-08-17, 08:04 PM

I still can't believe I thought Sims was a good fighter.

**JIBBBY** · 08-08-17, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

wouldnt even call that first fight wrestling that was just 2 trash fighters doing trash things lolll

2nd fight was 2 true mma fighters, wrestling for sure won simon that scrap though, he has solid takedowns but needs to learn how to grapple while ontop if he wants to make it anywhere

Raw fighters with only a few pro fights is to be expected in these fights.... That 1st fight was garbage..

The talent level is better in Legacy AXS I kid you not.. Last fight the kid Simon is game though I'll give that last fight some skill levels shown..

Let's see Perez shows us something in this next one..

**Rich Benjamins** · 08-08-17, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Simon actually countered better in the 3rd. Maybe he was waiting for the power to drop off a little? Simon came through in round 3.

I agree. Simon got his counters together in the 3rd. He should've been doing that since rd 1. Maybe he had jitters and it took up to the 3rd to relax.

**Demonata** · 08-08-17, 08:08 PM

What's next fight?

**JIBBBY** · 08-08-17, 08:14 PM

Perez looked good.. Well rounded with skills... Good win..

**turbozed** · 08-08-17, 08:14 PM

Great performance by Perez and great call Rich B.

Rode with you on this one because Gray's style just doesn't work at any decent level.