UFC 214: Cormier vs. Jones 2 (July 29, 2017)

**yisman** · 07-30-17, 12:04 AM

Jon Jones saying he loves his haters because they motivated him to keep fighting. haha

"thank you guys"

**Demonata** · 07-30-17, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Poor DC as he was really just renting the belt for all this time from JJ.. Never really the legit UFC champ.. Got knocked out for his troubles.. Head kick did start it all off.

No he faught good fighters. Not his fault. Looked good this fight and has beaten great fighters. I respect Cormier a ton.

**yisman** · 07-30-17, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Poor DC as he was really just renting the belt for all this time from JJ.. Never really the legit UFC champ.. Got knocked out for his troubles.. Head kick did start it all off.

yeah well everyone knew when he had the belt that it came with a huge asterisk

**yisman** · 07-30-17, 12:06 AM

DC: "I thought the fight was going well, I don't even know what happened."

Jon Jones then called out Brock Lesnar. wtf?

**brooks85** · 07-30-17, 12:07 AM

DC is clearly the second best so this is going down a third time. DC got a little too cocky because he was having some success.

jones called out lesnar, that's happening.

**brooks85** · 07-30-17, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by yisman

DC: "I thought the fight was going well, I don't even know what happened."

Jon Jones then called out Brock Lesnar. wtf?

they had a little back and forth through the media this week. Jones wants money fights and lesnar said he was game.

**mdunlap3** · 07-30-17, 12:09 AM

Mannnn was I wrong. Feel kinda bad for DC after listening to that interview. Sounds so defeated. Poor guy.

**dlowilly** · 07-30-17, 12:09 AM

Loved seeing Cormier's fat mug get rocked and then get all sobby and tearful

**Kermit** · 07-30-17, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by yisman

Jon Jones then called out Brock Lesnar. wtf?

This has been a rumor for a little while now. I was joking at my house with the guys here that if Jones won that he was gonna call out Lesner, and he did.

**dlowilly** · 07-30-17, 12:13 AM

Lesnar would get destroyed by Jones, joke fight

**Hugo de Naranja** · 07-30-17, 12:13 AM

The middle of this card was horrendous for me. Just glad to have survived this event.

**Kermit** · 07-30-17, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by dlowilly

Lesnar would get destroyed by Jones, joke fight

Yeah. Lesner would get TKOed.

**KingHawkins** · 07-30-17, 12:21 AM

Great night of fights. One of top 3 events ever watching for me, and made out with almost $500 thanks in large part to Jones. Cheers everyone

**Shagdogy** · 07-30-17, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

The middle of this card was horrendous for me. Just glad to have survived this event.

Me too. Thank god I hit the first two legs of my +1200 parlay and had that in the bag to hedge cause the middle went awful. In the end, I broke even. No blood and some good fights. On to the next.

**Shagdogy** · 07-30-17, 12:27 AM

I feel bad for Cormier. Really do. He puts his life into this and he's great, but just not great enough. He's all time second place. Just think how we'd be talking about him if there was no Jon Jones. Undefeated, undisputed champ. Numerous defenses in a tough LHW decision. Potentially could retire an undefeated champ. I do feel bad for him, because I believe he's a better person than Jones but he's just not the greatest and he can't escape him. That's tough.

**yisman** · 07-30-17, 12:29 AM

I'm surprised Brock Lesnar is still the topic of conversation.

He's retired twice, and oh yeah, what precipitated the second retirement was a failed test.

**firekillex** · 07-30-17, 12:42 AM

best betting card of 2017 for me , super fckin pumped

+1100 cyborg round 3 hits, fight goes past round 1 +160 hit , lawler, lamas and my biggest bet tyron woodley hit
lost with jones sub / cormier +250 and eric shelton/ barao but all those were smaller

sucks to see DC so defeated though guy was hanging in there tight, guy is easily the 2nd best 205er in MMA / history imo and if it wasnt for jones hed be a P4P great, people really underappreciate this guys talent...

pumped to see JONES/LESNAR and TYRON/GSP in the future hopefully... and aint nobody stopping cyborg other then USADA

**Hugo de Naranja** · 07-30-17, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by mdunlap3

Lol its funny because in the media scrum Dana knew this wasn't going to be an exciting fight. He said something like "I love this fight. Even though it probably won't be the most exciting fight of the night, the two very different styles are fascinating." Woodley used to be really fun to watch man.

So concerned about not gassing that he just doesn't do anything. That said, this was a TDD clinic and a smart fight

**Hugo de Naranja** · 07-30-17, 12:53 AM

Moicano+Ortega gets FOTN

. Had Lawler+Cerrone there for 1u

**Shagdogy** · 07-30-17, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

So concerned about not gassing that he just doesn't do anything. That said, this was a TDD clinic and a smart fight

I didn't mind the fight because it went exactly as I had expected. I mentioned in a previous post that Woodley should be training nothing but defense and the rest will take care of itself. Looks like that's what he did. He definitely fought not to lose this fight, but it was the right way for him to get the W. I think a different matchup could get Woodley to engage a bit more. We'll see.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 07-30-17, 12:58 AM

https://twitter.com/mikefridley?lang=en

Scorecard for Jones/Cormier.

One judge had it 20-18 Jones, the other 2 had it 19-19

**Hugo de Naranja** · 07-30-17, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

DC is clearly the second best so this is going down a third time. DC got a little too cocky because he was having some success.

jones called out lesnar, that's happening.

Highly doubt it. Think DC retires. He was beat clearly both times

**Hugo de Naranja** · 07-30-17, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

DC is clearly the second best so this is going down a third time. DC got a little too cocky because he was having some success.

jones called out lesnar, that's happening.

If you want to bet that they fight a third time, I'll give you (+400) odds for some Betpoints

**Hugo de Naranja** · 07-30-17, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

I feel bad for Cormier. Really do. He puts his life into this and he's great, but just not great enough. He's all time second place. Just think how we'd be talking about him if there was no Jon Jones. Undefeated, undisputed champ. Numerous defenses in a tough LHW decision. Potentially could retire an undefeated champ. I do feel bad for him, because I believe he's a better person than Jones but he's just not the greatest and he can't escape him. That's tough.

One of a handful of second-best fighters to dominant champions. Falls right in with Joseph Benavidez, Claudia Gadelha, etc.

**firekillex** · 07-30-17, 01:03 AM

i had 19-19 jones/cormier ... cormier 1 / jones 2 imo... jones was winning round 3 with output biggest round of all rounds so far before the head kick for me....

i think DC hangs it up though... Jones will fight GUS 2 , then fight Lesnar .... DC will not wait almost a year or longer to fight Jones again if it was an instant rematch he wouldve done it imo but i cant see him sticking around that long while his body breaks down even more... Man i wish we couldve got Cormier in MMA a bit sooner, easily the 2nd best 205er in UFC history for me .. despite what all the haters say

**Hugo de Naranja** · 07-30-17, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

I didn't mind the fight because it went exactly as I had expected. I mentioned in a previous post that Woodley should be training nothing but defense and the rest will take care of itself. Looks like that's what he did. He definitely fought not to lose this fight, but it was the right way for him to get the W. I think a different matchup could get Woodley to engage a bit more. We'll see.

I will probably be betting him over GSP. Amazing TDD now proven against an elite wrestler

**firekillex** · 07-30-17, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

I will probably be betting him over GSP. Amazing TDD now proven against an elite wrestler

yup a few months back me and a buddy had a debate about that fight and i was backing Woodley, i think hes to athletic and fast for GSP unless GSP has made improvements on his time off which is hard to believe especially after ACL injuries... just cant see it... Would look like the GSP/Hendricks fight but i think Woodley would get the TKO possibly... Woodley fights super smart.. a bit to tenative and cautious in this fight imo i wanted him to stuff the maia takedown then punish him with shots and he got up especially when Maia was tired... but he fought the right fight to WIN, but not to gain more fans in the end hes looking out for himself but if he wants more fans he needs to show his true talent/power which he definitely has.. watching some of his footwork/ counters its scary seeing the speed and power this guy really has when he wants to show it

**Hugo de Naranja** · 07-30-17, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

yup a few months back me and a buddy had a debate about that fight and i was backing Woodley, i think hes to athletic and fast for GSP unless GSP has made improvements on his time off which is hard to believe especially after ACL injuries... just cant see it... Would look like the GSP/Hendricks fight but i think Woodley would get the TKO possibly... Woodley fights super smart.. a bit to tenative and cautious in this fight imo i wanted him to stuff the maia takedown then punish him with shots and he got up especially when Maia was tired... but he fought the right fight to WIN, but not to gain more fans in the end hes looking out for himself but if he wants more fans he needs to show his true talent/power which he definitely has.. watching some of his footwork/ counters its scary seeing the speed and power this guy really has when he wants to show it

Wonder what the odds will be. Think Woodley small favorite.

**firekillex** · 07-30-17, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Wonder what the odds will be. Think Woodley small favorite.

I go to woodley -150 range ...
wonder if GSP is ducking him it honestly looks like he is to me

**Hugo de Naranja** · 07-30-17, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

I go to woodley -150 range ...
wonder if GSP is ducking him it honestly looks like he is to me

Now Dana saying GSP/Bisping is back on. Ugh..... Wtf? Why?

**firekillex** · 07-30-17, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Now Dana saying GSP/Bisping is back on. Ugh..... Wtf? Why?

Fckin disgrace Dana is the worst blatant liar I've ever seen sometimes.. Tyron did fight super cautious and I agree he could've most likely finished Maia but GSP vs bisping fight has sailed.. 170 is dying for contenders while 85 has a clusterfck of contenders taking eachother out for no reason while bisping is hurt or fighting not top guys

**Hugo de Naranja** · 07-30-17, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

Fckin disgrace Dana is the worst blatant liar I've ever seen sometimes.. Tyron did fight super cautious and I agree he could've most likely finished Maia but GSP vs bisping fight has sailed.. 170 is dying for contenders while 85 has a clusterfck of contenders taking eachother out for no reason while bisping is hurt or fighting not top guys

So fuckingg dumb

**firekillex** · 07-30-17, 02:34 AM

But says lawler should get a rematch after slightly edging cerrone in a decision and he hasn't fought since losing the title...... 0 logic in some of the decisions the UFC has been making lately unless GSP is blatantly running and that excuse was his scapegoat ...I'd rather watch Woodley vs GSP then him vs Bisping imo

**Shagdogy** · 07-30-17, 07:13 AM

GSP ducking Woodley for sure. He has been trying to cherry pick every single thing about this comeback and Bisping is his best path to victory. Losing a lot of respect for GSP. If he's so scared to lose then come back and enter 170 in a non title fight and see what you have, don't just leap frog a bunch of solid contenders for a title shot. He clearly isn't sure he's still that dominant but he wants immediate title anyway but only if it perfectly suits his style. Thats the real heart of a champion there. GSPs a punk.

**brooks85** · 07-30-17, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

If you want to bet that they fight a third time, I'll give you (+400) odds for some Betpoints

lets do it, +400 is a ridiculously good line for something is inevitable lol

And why would DC retire? Makes no sense unless he has plans to open a pot shop like anthony johnson. Or unless DC hates money he isn't retiring. But, that would be terrible for UFC to have 2 of the top 3 guys retire early. Jones will have no one left to fight except gustaffson.