UFC 208: Holm vs. de Randamie (February 11, 2017)

[PaperTrail07]

I mean you get 1 free shot to the nuts a fight....use whats given...right?

If you are a UFC fighter you should take advantage of the one (or two) free eye pokes, low blows, fence grab and hit after the bell per fight. No punishment for these so why not?

[PaperTrail07]

	2/11/17 7:04pm	$30.00	$553.71	$0.00	Loss	9 Team Parlay
					Win	2/11/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1001 Germaine de Randamie -125* vs Holly Holm
					Loss	2/11/17 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Derek Brunson -145* vs Anderson Silva
					Win	2/11/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Ronaldo Souza -600* vs Tim Boetsch
					Win	2/11/17 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Glover Teixeira -235* vs Jared Cannonier
					Win	2/11/17 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Dustin Poirier -400* vs Jim Miller
					Win	2/11/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1602 Wilson Reis -670* vs Ulka Sasaki
					Win	2/11/17 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1702 Islam Makhachev -330* vs Nik Lentz
					Win	2/11/17 8:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Rick Glenn -175* vs Phillipe Nover
					Win	2/11/17 7:30pm UFC Fighting 2102 Ryan LaFlare -325* vs Roan Carneiro

Not much to say here. Brunson not getting the decision and McCall pulling out was a 22u swing for me. -18.255u for this card.

[PaperTrail07]

	2/11/17 10:12am	$25.00	$1,482.44	$0.00	Loss	11 Team Parlay
					Win	2/11/17 12:00pm College Basketball 521 Minnesota U -3 -155* vs Rutgers
					Loss	2/11/17 12:00pm College Basketball 524 Florida -10 -175* vs Texas A&M
					Win	2/11/17 1:00pm College Basketball 535 Kentucky -4 -220* vs Alabama
					Win	2/11/17 4:00pm College Basketball 574 Maryland -4 -220* vs Ohio State
					Win	2/11/17 6:00pm College Basketball 610 Michigan State -4 -140* vs Iowa
					Win	2/11/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Ronaldo Souza -550* vs Tim Boetsch
					Win	2/11/17 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Glover Teixeira -230* vs Jared Cannonier
					Win	2/11/17 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Dustin Poirier -420* vs Jim Miller
					Win	2/11/17 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1702 Islam Makhachev -300* vs Nik Lentz
					Cancelled	2/11/17 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1801 Jarred Brooks -130* vs Ian McCall
					Win	2/11/17 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2102 Ryan LaFlare -335* vs Roan Carneiro

[PaperTrail07]

I know the feeling LMAO.....all part of the game---still up $ but the lotto tickets cashing would have just been icing on the cake...

[PaperTrail07]

It wasn't all bad....lot of straight bets 2-3 fighters...

$75.00	$590.80	$665.80	Win	6 Team Parlay
					Win	2/11/17 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Dustin Poirier -420* vs Jim Miller
					Win	2/11/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1602 Wilson Reis -640* vs Ulka Sasaki
					Win	2/11/17 7:30pm UFC Fighting 2102 Ryan LaFlare -310* vs Roan Carneiro
					Win	2/11/17 11:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1242 Souza points handicap -3½ -375* vs Boetsch points handicap
					Win	2/11/17 10:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1342 Teixeira points handicap -3½ -155* vs Cannonier points handicap
					Win	2/11/17 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1742 Makhachev points handicap -3½ +125* vs Lentz points handicap

[JIBBBY]

It wasn't all bad....lot of straight bets 2-3 fighters...

$75.00	$590.80	$665.80	Win	6 Team Parlay
					Win	2/11/17 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Dustin Poirier -420* vs Jim Miller
					Win	2/11/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1602 Wilson Reis -640* vs Ulka Sasaki
					Win	2/11/17 7:30pm UFC Fighting 2102 Ryan LaFlare -310* vs Roan Carneiro
					Win	2/11/17 11:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1242 Souza points handicap -3½ -375* vs Boetsch points handicap
					Win	2/11/17 10:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1342 Teixeira points handicap -3½ -155* vs Cannonier points handicap
					Win	2/11/17 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1742 Makhachev points handicap -3½ +125* vs Lentz points handicap

Solid play lately Paper.. Nice Parlay hit!!!!

I've noticed you've been riding a bit hot lately.. Keep it up!!!!

Brunson was the one bet on the entire card that focked me up too.. Shitzu!!!! You came close to hitting that other parlay with the Brunson loss...

[PaperTrail07]

TY SIR.....Fights Def went my Way ......nice when that happens...

Solid play lately Paper.. Nice Parlay hit!!!!

I've noticed you've been riding a bit hot lately.. Keep it up!!!!

Brunson was the one bet on the entire card that focked me up too.. Shitzu!!!! You came close to hitting that other parlay with the Brunson loss...

[Rich Benjamins]

Yes, very nice. I love those points handicap bets.

It wasn't all bad....lot of straight bets 2-3 fighters...

$75.00	$590.80	$665.80	Win	6 Team Parlay
					Win	2/11/17 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Dustin Poirier -420* vs Jim Miller
					Win	2/11/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1602 Wilson Reis -640* vs Ulka Sasaki
					Win	2/11/17 7:30pm UFC Fighting 2102 Ryan LaFlare -310* vs Roan Carneiro
					Win	2/11/17 11:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1242 Souza points handicap -3½ -375* vs Boetsch points handicap
					Win	2/11/17 10:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1342 Teixeira points handicap -3½ -155* vs Cannonier points handicap
					Win	2/11/17 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1742 Makhachev points handicap -3½ +125* vs Lentz points handicap

[Rich Benjamins]

Dana White is scum. Unbelievable. Pay the man. You know he won. Fck my money. I'm done anyway. This man put in work, and won. But, he was robbed. Dana is the biggest scum in all of so called sports.[/QUOTE]


I agree, Brunson won the fight, but I don't agree that he put in the work. He fought like a scared mouse, especially in the 2nd round. Silva had way more bravado in the fight, was more entertaining. I can take the judges side on that. This isnt' point fighting. There are point fighting contests out there that fighters can take part in instead if they want to fight like a bitch.

[PaperTrail07]

Rich. Agree. -330 @ plus 125 w mak and it SEEMS the 10-8 is real in 2017

[PaperTrail07]

It was no lauzon held. But it was bad. Even the announcers called it 2-0 Brunson going into the 3rd. Then one judge had it 30-27 Silva. Just bananas. There have been plenty worse tho. Picking the "winner" is not always enough. We know how it goes

[PaperTrail07]

Ty sir. I am surprised you lost. We saw many fights the same I was actually a little disappointed mak didn't finish the fight. Same w Glover. You'll be back like a yo yo no worries there. Next up is a Sunday fun day

I hit early on winning 5 of the first 6 fights and was up, then went ice cold then after.. I faded Holly Holm in the end and hit that like everyone else did, that helped stopped the bleeding..

Still I ended up losing a few hundred in the end.. That Brunson loss I kinda loaded up on and that set me back for good.. Live betting nothing worth grabbing either..

Oh well on to the next.. Congrats Paper and others that won.. The old guys came thru for you.. Anderson Silva looked good, Brunson fought scared... Glover dominated too....

That's 2 UFC cards in a row that I lost now. ERRRR!!!! Not use to that.. Gotta get back on the horse and cap these fights a little better...

[Rich Benjamins]

My point is, Paper, that attitude also plays a part in a fight. Imagine a fight in a schoolyard. Often the kid who leads more, mocks the opponent, and demonstrates more authority in the fight is the one who you can say was the winner. Silva led most of the fight and got a lot of respect from Brunson who seemed in awe of Silva. For example, remember that weird Capoeira dance that Silva did, and Brunson just stood there watching? I'll bet if Brunson would've interrupted that dance and cracked Silva a good one, or at least attempted to, then it would've scored some favor with the judges.

Remember the Bisping/Silva fight? Bisping was playing with Silva, took initiative, and almost let Silva knee him in the face and it didn't even affect him that much. Also, when Silva was doing his thing with his back against the wall pretending to get ready to counter and hit Bisping, Bisping didn't act scared or respect Silva. He kept punching him while his back was against the wall. Brunson wasn't doing any of this, he just let Silva dictate the pace and got some counters in here and there. It was an embarrasing performance. That said, I agree that Brunson won, but I can see where the judges came from and can accept the decision.

It was no lauzon held. But it was bad. Even the announcers called it 2-0 Brunson going into the 3rd. Then one judge had it 30-27 Silva. Just bananas. There have been plenty worse tho. Picking the "winner" is not always enough. We know how it goes

[Thor4140]

If you are a UFC fighter you should take advantage of the one (or two) free eye pokes, low blows, fence grab and hit after the bell per fight. No punishment for these so why not?

El Cuchy does every fight especially when he is in trouble. Kalib is in for a couple of ball shots and a eye poke here and there.

[PaperTrail07]

Nate Diaz does it almost every fight and loses....but I get it.......its also a way of baiting people in and IMO it shows discipline not to bite....Brunson did just that......it benefits certain styles to act flashy.....Silva in a flat out counter fighter....it entices people to attack....don't bite......go dance in the corner for all I give a F.....right?.....I know what you mean though.....

My point is, Paper, that attitude also plays a part in a fight. Imagine a fight in a schoolyard. Often the kid who leads more, mocks the opponent, and demonstrates more authority in the fight is the one who you can say was the winner. Silva led most of the fight and got a lot of respect from Brunson who seemed in awe of Silva. For example, remember that weird Capoeira dance that Silva did, and Brunson just stood there watching? I'll bet if Brunson would've interrupted that dance and cracked Silva a good one, or at least attempted to, then it would've scored some favor with the judges.

Remember the Bisping/Silva fight? Bisping was playing with Silva, took initiative, and almost let Silva knee him in the face and it didn't even affect him that much. Also, when Silva was doing his thing with his back against the wall pretending to get ready to counter and hit Bisping, Bisping didn't act scared or respect Silva. He kept punching him while his back was against the wall. Brunson wasn't doing any of this, he just let Silva dictate the pace and got some counters in here and there. It was an embarrasing performance. That said, I agree that Brunson won, but I can see where the judges came from and can accept the decision.

[Rich Benjamins]

Nate Diaz does it almost every fight and loses....but I get it.......its also a way of baiting people in and IMO it shows discipline not to bite....Brunson did just that......it benefits certain styles to act flashy.....Silva in a flat out counter fighter....it entices people to attack....don't bite......go dance in the corner for all I give a F.....right?.....I know what you mean though.....

Yea, if Brunson projected that "I don't give a F" attitude. But he didn't, he looked like he was intimidated throughout the whole fight. In the corner, after the 2nd round, Greg Jackson even said he was giving Silva too much respect.

[PaperTrail07]

He did....just just need to admit these judges are slightly star struck as well.......they are fans too....He didn't beat ANDERSON SILVA did he? nah.........lol.....so true..

Yea, if Brunson projected that "I don't give a F" attitude. But he didn't, he looked like he was intimidated throughout the whole fight. In the corner, after the 2nd round, Greg Jackson even said he was giving Silva too much respect.

[Rich Benjamins]

Yep, you're right, the judges are MMA fans too. So you have to take into account sometimes which fighter will get more favor from the judges if it's a close fight. Obviously in this case, it's the Spider.

He did....just just need to admit these judges are slightly star struck as well.......they are fans too....He didn't beat ANDERSON SILVA did he? nah.........lol.....so true..

[yisman]

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/7773/Germaine-de-Randamie-vs-Holly-Holm

look at the media scores