WSOF 34: Gaethje vs Firmino (December 31, 2016)

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-30-16, 05:16 PM

Thanks for starting the thread Locky!

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 01:32 AM

Oh shit didn't see this thread..

We got WSOF tomorrow night and there are some good fights to make some money on IMO... Jake Shields, Jared Rosholt and Paul Bradley all should win.. Parlay up Gaethje and Branch too..

WSOF 34 - Lightweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC


Sat 12/31	5001 Luiz Firmino	+335	o1½ -150
5:30PM	5002 Justin Gaethje	-420	u1½ +120
WSOF 34 - Lightweight 3 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC
Sat 12/31	5101 Paul Bradley	+140	o2½ -240
5:00PM	5102 Yushin Okami	-160	u2½ +180
WSOF 34 - Welterweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC
Sat 12/31	5201 Jon Fitch	+130	o3½ -215
4:30PM	5202 Jake Shields	-150	u3½ +170
WSOF 34 - Bantamweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC
Sat 12/31	5301 Josenaldo Silva	+500	o1½ -205
4:00PM	5302 Marlon Moraes	-700	u1½ +165
WSOF 34 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBCSN
Sat 12/31	5401 Caio Alencar	+235	o1½ -175
3:30PM	5402 Jared Rosholt	-275	u1½ +145
WSOF 34 - Middleweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York - NBCSN
Sat 12/31	5501 Louis Taylor	+325	o1½ -210
3:00PM	5502 David Branch	-400	u1½ +168

**mdunlap3** · 12-31-16, 01:38 AM

I can't wait to see this Jake Shields fight! (said no one ever)

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by mdunlap3

I can't wait to see this Jake Shields fight! (said no one ever)

I agree... He should be a better version of Fitch as they are similar fighters in a sense... If Jake is still training hard and the same fighter and doesn't gas out he should beat JF.. Fitch will try to grind on him though... Shields has better ground then Finch and is probably the better striker..

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 12-31-16, 01:56 AM

CroCop fighting a 360lbs Estonian right now

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 12-31-16, 01:56 AM

^ just beat hi, now in the Rizin final...

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

^ just beat hi, now in the Rizin final...

I tried betting a couple fights last night.. Came out on the losing end.. I just can't bet a venue in JAPAN with aged fighters that can juice...

Good luck Locky hope your chasing pays off... I'm taking a pass on that...

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-31-16, 04:05 AM

Got Gaethje ITD for a decent size bet.

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Got Gaethje ITD for a decent size bet.

Solid I like it, same here..

**LiquidNuke** · 12-31-16, 11:29 AM

Is a Rosholt/Gaethje/Branch parlay really pushing your luck, or reasonable? You've got two guys who are -400ish, and then the underwhelming but solid Rosholt to round it out in a match with closer odds... I'm thinking about it but would appreciate any input.

What about tossing Shields into that parlay? Four favorites and you end up getting better than +200 odds...

Edit - Hello everyone

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by LiquidNuke

Is a Rosholt/Gaethje/Branch parlay really pushing your luck, or reasonable? You've got two guys who are -400ish, and then the underwhelming but solid Rosholt to round it out in a match with closer odds... I'm thinking about it but would appreciate any input.

What about tossing Shields into that parlay? Four favorites and you end up getting better than +200 odds...

Edit - Hello everyone

Not pushing your luck..

Big favorites usually hit more often then not in these smaller venues like WSOF and BELLATOR... Odds makers nail it most of the time.. I love Gaethje and Branch and both ITD..

Rosholt should wrestle his way to victory also but there is a chance he could gas and get dropped late, still I like Rosholts chances in this one..

**LiquidNuke** · 12-31-16, 11:53 AM

Hmm, ok. Thanks Jibby. Sorry for all the questions.

I feel like Rosholt's opponent is one of those dime a dozen Brazilian MMA practitioners that fights sporadically and is probably already working 40 plus hour weeks. Rosholt is simply ok, but knows how to win a fight. He's hardly in with a top 10ish guy like Roy Nelson or Struve.

What are your thoughts on the Fitch/Shields match-up? I'm very interested in it despite a lot of people crapping on it (Blanket jokes galore)

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by LiquidNuke

Hmm, ok. Thanks Jibby. Sorry for all the questions.

I feel like Rosholt's opponent is one of those dime a dozen Brazilian MMA practitioners that fights sporadically and is probably already working 40 plus hour weeks. Rosholt is simply ok, but knows how to win a fight. He's hardly in with a top 10ish guy like Roy Nelson or Struve.

What are your thoughts on the Fitch/Shields match-up? I'm very interested in it despite a lot of people crapping on it (Blanket jokes galore)

Fitch is a grinder, but not as talented as Shields in any area.. Shields has the better chin also..

If Shields has been training and is in great shape and still the same fighter I love his chances against Jon Fitch..

If Shields is not in great shape Jon Fitch could grind and out work Shields to a decision win..

I'm going with Shields as he looks in good shape and seems motivated in interviews like this..http://mmajunkie.com/2016/12/jake-sh...on-fitch-early

**LiquidNuke** · 12-31-16, 12:10 PM

I just remembered, I read an article that said Fitch and Shields have grappled twice. I believe Shields won both. Mental edge maybe? Hope so, every little bit helps towards feeling confident about it.

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 12:12 PM

Weigh ins - Cheesy scale they are using.. WSOF went cheap

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by LiquidNuke

I just remembered, I read an article that said Fitch and Shields have grappled twice. I believe Shields won both. Mental edge maybe? Hope so, every little bit helps towards feeling confident about it.

I know Jon Fitch looks ripped and cut at weigh ins... Shields just looks fit and skinny so that has me just a bit worried.. I'm sure Shields is good shape for this fight though, he needs this win...

**LiquidNuke** · 12-31-16, 12:19 PM

Hmm. Shields has been actively competing in grappling tournaments since his match-up with Palhares right? Wondering if he's been in the gym, pretty long time off for a nearly 40 year old fighter. Can't imagine he isn't in good shape though, guy is gym rat isn't he?

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 12:22 PM

I'm liking Branch over Okami.. Branch is a bit of a beast... Okami is a has been... As a dog play I think it's worth a try... Well he was a +140 when I hit it.. Today it's even odds..

**LiquidNuke** · 12-31-16, 12:26 PM

Did you mean what's his name... Guy that knocked out Honeycutt? Paul Bradley. Over Okami that is.

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 01:08 PM

This event starts early... Don't sleep on it.. Start time in 3 hours on NBC....

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by LiquidNuke

Did you mean what's his name... Guy that knocked out Honeycutt? Paul Bradley. Over Okami that is.

Exactly.. Okami is a shell of the fighter he use to be in the UFC IMO, Bradley has picked up some quality wins lately... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Paul-Bradley-19726

I think he knocks out Okami in this scrap..

**LiquidNuke** · 12-31-16, 01:47 PM

Okami does seem markedly more fragile than he used to. Wonder if the bullish Bradley can pull a Boetsch and really rough him up and hopefully take him out.

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by LiquidNuke

Okami does seem markedly more fragile than he used to. Wonder if the bullish Bradley can pull a Boetsch and really rough him up and hopefully take him out.

Right exactly.. Okami was a better fighter back then when the Barbarian took him out in the UFC...

No guarantees on this but I took a shot at it to go along with the straight...

5105 Bradley wins inside distance

+300

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-31-16, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Solid I like it, same here..

Dude is an absolute monster. My favorite fighter outside the big show

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-31-16, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Fitch is a grinder, but not as talented as Shields in any area.. Shields has the better chin also..

If Shields has been training and is in great shape and still the same fighter I love his chances against Jon Fitch..

If Shields is not in great shape Jon Fitch could grind and out work Shields to a decision win..

I'm going with Shields as he looks in good shape and seems motivated in interviews like this..http://mmajunkie.com/2016/12/jake-sh...on-fitch-early

Scrap pack all up in your ass

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-31-16, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I'm liking Branch over Okami.. Branch is a bit of a beast... Okami is a has been... As a dog play I think it's worth a try... Well he was a +140 when I hit it.. Today it's even odds..

Tailing this for small at (+110)

**Unwritten Law** · 12-31-16, 02:57 PM

3 team parlay:

Branch
Rosholt
Moraes

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-31-16, 03:02 PM

WSOF 34: Gaethje vs. Firmino

Fight #1: Rosholt vs. Alencar
Rosholt Decision (+166) .5u

Fight #2: Branch (C) vs. Taylor
Branch Decision (+280) .5u

Fight #3: Bradley vs. Okami
Bradley (+110) 1u
Bradley ITD (+300) .25u

Fight #4: Moraes (C) vs. Silva
No Bet

Fight #5: Shields vs. Fitch
Shields (-150) 1.5u to win 1u
Shields ITD (+324) .5u

Fight #6: Gaethje vs. Firmino
Gaethje ITD (-163) 4.89u to win 4u
Gaethje Decision (+442) 1u

Parlays:
Moraes ITD/Gaethje+Firmino Don’t Go Distance (-102) 1.02u to win 1u

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-31-16, 03:27 PM

Ugh Branch finishes in the fifth

**LiquidNuke** · 12-31-16, 03:36 PM

Wonderful

**Unwritten Law** · 12-31-16, 03:40 PM

Wow, Ronda Rosholt got dropped like a bad apple.

**Unwritten Law** · 12-31-16, 03:48 PM

Bradley/Gaethje parlay

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 03:55 PM

This is how I'm playing the card.. Copy and paste from Bookmaker because I'm on the book placing bets now.. $150 bucks on the straights, $200 on the Parlays.. Have a benny on Branch ITD for $50 also..

Pending bets for today...

PARLAY (2 TEAMS)

12/31/2016 @ 02:30 PM	MU	[24102] Justin Gaethje -405 (Luiz Firmino vrs Justin Gaethje)
12/31/2016 @ 12:30 PM	MU	[24122] David Branch -405 (Louis Taylor vrs David Branch)

PARLAY (2 TEAMS)

12/31/2016 @ 01:00 PM	MU	[24114] Marlon Moraes -700 (Josenaldo Silva vrs Marlon Moraes)
12/31/2016 @ 12:00 PM	MU	[24118] Jared Rosholt -280 (Caio Alencar vrs Jared Rosholt)

STRAIGHT BET

12/31/2016 @ 01:30 PM

MU

[24105] Paul Bradley +131 (Paul Bradley vrs Yushin Okami)

STRAIGHT BET

12/31/2016 @ 02:00 PM

MU

[24110] Jake Shields -145 (Jon Fitch vrs Jake Shields)

STRAIGHT BET

12/31/2016 @ 05:05 PM

NBA

[512] Oklahoma City Thunder -200

**JIBBBY** · 12-31-16, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Dude is an absolute monster. My favorite fighter outside the big show

Agreed.. Total UFC material... Watched all his fights and I'm waiting to see what he can do in the UFC once he gets signed.....