UFC 205: Alvarez vs McGregor (Sat. Nov. 12, 2016) New York, NY

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  • Sato
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    #596
    Romero could crumble Bispings head and make his bad eye pop out. Mikes only path to victory is a ko. Romero is stronger in every area. I dont even think that Mike can hurt Romeros body.
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    • Hugo de Naranja
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      #597
      Originally posted by Sato
      Romero could crumble Bispings head and make his bad eye pop out. Mikes only path to victory is a ko. Romero is stronger in every area. I dont even think that Mike can hurt Romeros body.
      Bisping can stick-and-move and win a Bisping type decision
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      • stefan084
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        #598
        Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
        Dana just called a rematch for Woodley/WonderBoy
        Woodley says he'll have the rematch "after he takes care of the lucky charm"
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        • JIBBBY
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          #599
          Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
          Bisping can stick-and-move and win a Bisping type decision
          That's what I was thinking.. Even though you think Bisbing is WAY in over his head against Romero and should get his head knocked off, his style of movement of stick and move and keep distance may just win him a decision against Romero especially if it's a 5 rounder which it will be.... Ya just need to look at the way Bisbing fought against Thiales Leites and Anderson Silva and you can see what I'm talking about....

          If that fight ever goes down, it will be a hedge play for me.. Romero by KO, Bisbing by Decision..

          I'll lean heavier on the the Romero by KO prop though..
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          • firekillex
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            #600
            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
            Bisping can stick-and-move and win a Bisping type decision
            Agreed, Yoel Romero is on a big streak but it's the least impressive streak I've seen guy lost to jacare imo, was basically knocked out against Kennedy and cheated, almost lost to Brunson , watered himself down against weidman then weidman stopped getting takedowns ... guys a friggen monster don't get me wrong but I think somebody like rockhold would starch him , him versus bisping would be a coin toss but I'd lean bisping in 5 rounds , we know bisping would get tagged but if he could survive the early onslaught I think he'd finish Romero late or get a decision nod with his movement and bisping is no slouch in the wrestling he'd get taken down but he pops up quick usually ... I wanna see this fight though hopefully it's next great style matchup imo
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            • Hugo de Naranja
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              #601
              Originally posted by firekillex
              Agreed, Yoel Romero is on a big streak but it's the least impressive streak I've seen guy lost to jacare imo, was basically knocked out against Kennedy and cheated, almost lost to Brunson , watered himself down against weidman then weidman stopped getting takedowns ... guys a friggen monster don't get me wrong but I think somebody like rockhold would starch him , him versus bisping would be a coin toss but I'd lean bisping in 5 rounds , we know bisping would get tagged but if he could survive the early onslaught I think he'd finish Romero late or get a decision nod with his movement and bisping is no slouch in the wrestling he'd get taken down but he pops up quick usually ... I wanna see this fight though hopefully it's next great style matchup imo
              Yeah I wonder how the odds will open up here. Have won a LOT on Bisping in his last 3 fights. He definitely has a good chance here and I think people don't give him enough credit. Both he and Romero could beat/get beaten by a lot of the top guys in the division.
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              • Hugo de Naranja
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                #602
                I agree with you that motivated Rockhold is the best MW by a pretty good amount.
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                • firekillex
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                  #603
                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                  Yeah I wonder how the odds will open up here. Have won a LOT on Bisping in his last 3 fights. He definitely has a good chance here and I think people don't give him enough credit. Both he and Romero could beat/get beaten by a lot of the top guys in the division.
                  agreed , I think Yoel would be a slight favourite imo , probably -150 range a lot of people really underestimate bisping .. I don't think either of them are top 3 imo... for me it's rockhold, jacare,healthy weidman .. gotta give it to Romero he finds a way to get it done somehow through all the garbage but imo jacare clearly beat him in a decision and weidman was on his way to a decision win and Kennedy most likely would've tkod him if it wasn't for stool gate . Him vs bisping is a super close fight though I'd most likely play the dog money there hoping to get bisping at + money then hedge with a romero tko/Ko prop would be the best way to play it imo



                  i wonder how jibby feels about Maia getting passed over for the next title shot since wonderboy will most likely get the rematch ... this is the year of the rematch it feels like
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                  • Plaza23
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                    #604
                    Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                    Haters? Cmon? Alvarez was clearly hurt....and outclassed plus Herb Dean was thankfully nowhere to be seen!
                    Alvarez was hurt, but compare it to the Wonderboy/Woodley fight. Wonderboy took a vicious beating in round 4 and the Ref never called it and let it play out.

                    I also thought it was called to early. MacGregor caught him with a couple shots, but they weren't "brain damage oh my gosh this guy is going to kill him if it's not stopped" type of shots.
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                    • JIBBBY
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                      #605
                      Originally posted by firekillex
                      i wonder how jibby feels about Maia getting passed over for the next title shot since wonderboy will most likely get the rematch ... this is the year of the rematch it feels like
                      I don't like it, Maia isn't getting any younger or better waiting and he certainly deserves a title shot now...

                      Hey, but Wonderboy and Twood fought to a draw.. They need to settle that score.. The rematch is good for business and will bring in big pay per view numbers I'm sure..

                      When Maia fights either Wonderboy or Twood in the future here is my take -

                      I think Maia can beat Wonderboy.. I think Maia can time a single and take down Wonderboy every round much like he did with Gunnar Nelson.

                      I'm not so convinced he can beat Twood though.. If Maia gets either of these guys on the ground it's probably game over.. Twood is quick, athletic, can wrestle and that spells trouble for Maia when going for the take downs and keeping him down IMO..
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                      • firekillex
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                        #606
                        I honestly would rather see a different fight kind of had enough of these rematches for my liking , in a pride scoring system or true fight Woodley won imo much more damage and he won his rounds by bigger margins . I think Maia's only shot be against wonderboy I agree , it would either be wonderboy picks him apart from distance and starches him or Maia gets the easy takedown and man handles him the classic striker vs grappler matchup 50/50... Maia vs Woodley I see absolutely no chance of him winning imo he's not getting any takedown on Woodley , his only shot would be to pull guard and on the feet he would get brutalized , he does have some decent low key kicks but it wouldn't be enough to do anything to woodleys explosive style .. we'll see what happens but I'm assuming the rematch will come which only hurts Maia since he's not getting any younger , he better hope they don't match him up with Donald cerrone next after he most likely beats matt brown to because I hate that matchup for him as well , I'd like to see them give Maia gastelum if he fights one more time so gastelum can get tapped out for that garbage he pulled on this card though
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                        • Thrilla
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                          #607
                          - John Ramdeen and Robin Black recap UFC 205.
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                          - With UFC 205 in the books, and Conor McGregor making history again, MMA Fighting's Ariel Helwani, Chuck Mindenhall and Marc Raimondi break down the top storylines.
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                          • PaperTrail07
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                            #608
                            The Nurgamedov inside the distance +179 was fuckn $$....Nurg JJ parlay $$....Romero $$....Miller $$.....only losses were Natal and small on alvarez.....about time I avoided a main event lol..
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                            • PaperTrail07
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                              #609
                              I appreciate you pointing out the -3.5 nurg....blasted it........same w JJ....amazing....nurg was never in danger lol....
                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                              Yeah I wonder how the odds will open up here. Have won a LOT on Bisping in his last 3 fights. He definitely has a good chance here and I think people don't give him enough credit. Both he and Romero could beat/get beaten by a lot of the top guys in the division.
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                              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                #610
                                hopefully Conor mans up and fights Khabib
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                                • JIBBBY
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                                  #611
                                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                  hopefully Conor mans up and fights Khabib
                                  He'll destroy McGregor.. I hope it happens.. I'll bet the house on Khabib Straight, the Under and by Sub.. Well maybe ITD just because he may pound out McIrish on the ground..
                                  Last edited by JIBBBY; 11-14-16, 01:28 PM.
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                                  • Thrilla
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                                    #612
                                    - Yoel Romero talks about his technical knockout win over Chris Weidman at UFC 205, possibly fighting Michael Bisping for the middleweight title, and much more.


                                    - Khabib Nurmagomedov talks about his submission win over Michael Johnson at UFC 205, his chances of getting a shot at the lightweight title, Conor McGregor, and more.
                                    Last edited by Thrilla; 11-14-16, 01:55 PM.
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                                    • JIBBBY
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                                      #613
                                      ^^ I think everyone is afraid to fight Romero right now Thrilla.. He's a scary physical beast that fights dirty at times.. Who in their right mind would want a piece of that???
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                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                        #614
                                        not a chance IMO.,......
                                        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                        hopefully Conor mans up and fights Khabib
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                                        • Thrilla
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                                          #615
                                          ^^ wow

                                          Khabib was telling Johnson to give up because he didn't want to hurt him anymore.
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                                          • PaperTrail07
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                                            #616
                                            WOW lol........... What a class act...Said he chose not to break his arm....Wow...I believe him too...
                                            Originally posted by Thrilla
                                            ^^ wow

                                            Khabib was telling Johnson to give up because he didn't want to hurt him anymore.
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                                            • PaperTrail07
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                                              #617
                                              I honestly believe he could beat Diaz, and McG in the same day LOL.... He's on point with everything he said..
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                #618
                                                Originally posted by Thrilla
                                                ^^ wow

                                                Khabib was telling Johnson to give up because he didn't want to hurt him anymore.
                                                I think we were all thinking that while watching that fight.. Should have been stopped a round earlier IMO.. MJ took a man like beating fooo sureeees....

                                                Those kind of dominating beat downs can make a fighter switch weigh classes or re-think their entire fighting style..
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                                                • PaperTrail07
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                                                  #619
                                                  lol so true....Guy is the most skilled guy in the UFC IMO....all of UFC.....is this a BS fight organization or do they want the best....that is the real question IMO..........Should all be results based..
                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                  I think we were all thinking that while watching that fight.. Should have been stopped a round earlier IMO.. MJ took a man like beating fooo sureeees....

                                                  Those kind of dominating beat downs can make a fighter switch weigh classes or re-think their entire fighting style..
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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    #620
                                                    Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                    lol so true....Guy is the most skilled guy in the UFC IMO....all of UFC.....is this a BS fight organization or do they want the best....that is the real question IMO..........Should all be results based..
                                                    He really is arguably so with that monster ground game of his, I do believe he needs to fight smart and to his strength against the big boys.. Meaning he needs to take fights to the ground rather then stand and trade with big punchers for long durations of time...

                                                    Can't forget MJ did have Khabib rocked and wobbled in that first round.. He could have been knocked out if MJ landed one more good punch in that first exchange..
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                                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                                      #621
                                                      JIBBERS...maybe it looked that way......but that punch didn't do anything IMO (and his in the interview)...he was standing with him for FUN and admitted his respect for the boxing of MJ......he then took him down AT WILL and in the end made a fool out of him honestly....
                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                      He really is arguably so with that monster ground game of his, I do believe he needs to fight smart and to his strength against the big boys.. Meaning he needs to take fights to the ground rather then stand and trade with big punchers for long durations of time...

                                                      Can't forget MJ did have Khabib rocked and wobbled in that first round.. He could have been knocked out if MJ landed one more good punch in that first exchange..
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                                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                                        #622
                                                        Like he said----this guy get caught---that guy gets caught---mcG taps out like a bitch....He has done nothing but win....CHICKENS....zero taps....zero losses.......
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                                                        • Sato
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                                                          #623
                                                          Khabibs biggest win was RDA in 2014. Since then he fought nobodies. Johnson is a product of hype...17-11 fighter who had a flashy victory and thats it. He had 4 fights in the last 3 years.

                                                          Vs Johnson we learned that he can be hurt standing up. He has a reach disadvantage against almost anybody and doesnt have great hands. Conor could definitely knock him out. On the ground however hes outmatched. Striker vs grappler classic matchup.
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                                                          • bjpenn85
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                                                            #624
                                                            Originally posted by Sato
                                                            Khabibs biggest win was RDA in 2014. Since then he fought nobodies. Johnson is a product of hype...17-11 fighter who had a flashy victory and thats it. He had 4 fights in the last 3 years.

                                                            Vs Johnson we learned that he can be hurt standing up. He has a reach disadvantage against almost anybody and doesnt have great hands. Conor could definitely knock him out. On the ground however hes outmatched. Striker vs grappler classic matchup.
                                                            Im not sure even tony ferg can beat mcrecor. I do think we neet to look at mcregor as a specialist like we do with Demian Maia. If you stand with mcregor without having really really good boxing fundamentals + a reallt good chin + a fanstastic reach and probably a very good ground game you can fall back on when you need to to take him down, youre really doomed. Because he beats guys standing, the first 10 minutes of the fight rather easily. On the feet is not close. Khabib, if he can take down mcregor down the first round its a fight. Because mcregors will possibly be afraid to strike after that, and that can probably save him a bit from taking to much damage, but..he need to get the takedown, and when conor who basically stand 2-3 m from distance and picking you apart, it can be a tall task. But its khabib probably who have the best shot because hes another specialist and i do think you need to be that type of fighter to beat mcregor. Is simply not enough to be a really good fighter who are well rounded. Tony who gets tagged all day and all night, and is kind of arrogant about in terms of standing right in front of his competitors, i dont think thats a recipe for beating a guy who need exactly that to get his hand raised.
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                                                            • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                              #625
                                                              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                              not a chance IMO.,......
                                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                              He'll destroy McGregor.. I hope it happens.. I'll bet the house on Khabib Straight, the Under and by Sub.. Well maybe ITD just because he may pound out McIrish on the ground..
                                                              agree with Paper..I think he avoids Khabib at all costs

                                                              he has too much power to make decisions on who he fights
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                                                              • Thrilla
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                                                                #626
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                                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                                  #627
                                                                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                  agree with Paper..I think he avoids Khabib at all costs

                                                                  he has too much power to make decisions on who he fights
                                                                  Khabib and Romero are 2 guys you really don't want to face right now.. Either one of those guys are very capable of hurting you badly.. Scary factor those two are the most dangerous in the UFC right now in their respected weight divisions IMO, not even El Cucuy or McGregor scare ya like Romero or Khabib can...
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                                                                  • Thor4140
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                                                                    #628
                                                                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                    Bisping can stick-and-move and win a Bisping type decision
                                                                    Bisping might be the most underrated fighter in the history of MMA. Guy never gets any credit and has fought the best of the best and most in their prime.
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                                                                    • bjpenn85
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                                                                      #629
                                                                      And while they were on steroids...
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                                                                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                        #630
                                                                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                                        I appreciate you pointing out the -3.5 nurg....blasted it........same w JJ....amazing....nurg was never in danger lol....
                                                                        Yup, I love those -Points props
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