UFC 204: Bisping vs. Henderson 2 (October 08, 2016)

[PaperTrail07]

For me the play is bis....just cant count on that bomb landing IMO...it does....Congrats....Dan is the man but fading him here....

[PaperTrail07]

100% Vitor-Chael-Wandy...

Half his losses are from known juicers to actually funny how he became champ after USADA makes you really think

[PaperTrail07]

Unless its TRT vitor.like you said fire---it should be over round 1 IMO...

[firekillex]

For me the play is bis....just cant count on that bomb landing IMO...it does....Congrats....Dan is the man but fading him here....

agreed, i can live with it especially bisping at -210, ill take a big stab at that any day of the week if hendo wins great for him but i highly doubt he lands that hbomb in this spot, bisping tends to shine in UK fights i dont see this ending here

and ya well see what vitor comes out im always super suspect on vitor fights, if mousasi was -250 or under id be interested but over -300+ cant really do much even though i see him winning this fight, vitor has a great ground game but hes been looking terrible off his back and if mousasi gets ontop of him its game over

[Thrilla]

- Dan Henderson is confident he will defeat Michael Bisping for the UFC middleweight title on Oct. 8 at UFC 204. Why? Because Henderson already beat Bisping in their first bout at UFC 100.
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- Michael Bisping talks after Wednesday's open workouts about what it means to him to fight in front of his hometown fans and more.<em><font size="1">

- John Ramdeen and Robin Black preview the rematch between Michael Bisping and Dan Henderson.

[JIBBBY]

I remember Bisping TKO-ing Cung Le in R4 of their fight.

Correction noted.. Was just going off memory didn't double check.. 4th round KO and it was not by decision..

[PaperTrail07]

And lee later got caught juicing for that fight..

Correction noted.. Was just going off memory didn't double check.. 4th round KO and it was not by decision..

[PaperTrail07]

totally agree

agreed, i can live with it especially bisping at -210, ill take a big stab at that any day of the week if hendo wins great for him but i highly doubt he lands that hbomb in this spot, bisping tends to shine in UK fights i dont see this ending here

and ya well see what vitor comes out im always super suspect on vitor fights, if mousasi was -250 or under id be interested but over -300+ cant really do much even though i see him winning this fight, vitor has a great ground game but hes been looking terrible off his back and if mousasi gets ontop of him its game over

[JIBBBY]

I used to loathe Bisping, but actually have done a complete 180 and quite like him now. He used to be the biggest prick, and still is at times, but he seems more positive overall and in a better place mentally the past few years. Not really a big fan of his fighting style but you can't question his heart. I also think he does a good job on TV. I think he returns the favor on Saturday and starches Hendo via KO/TKO.

Yeah, Hendo humbled him after he knocked his head off in that first fight... Bisping is still a bit of a cocky prick if you ask me.. Certainly more likeable since hosting the UFC show though. I'll be fully rooting for Hendo and by KO again regardless..

Like Firekillex stated, Hendo is 47, chin is starting to go.. Bisping is soft himself now and has basically become a retreating boxer in fights.. I think Hendo might have his # as well.. Both of these guys are about to be retired and rightfully so..

This fight will be interesting to see how it plays out...

Hendo by H-bomb again hopefully.. I've always been a big fan of Hendo.. He's a class act straight up, brings it in fights and is a true warrior..

[Hugo de Naranja]

Hey Jibs, OSP KO/TKO is up to (+165) btw.

[JIBBBY]

Hey Jibs, OSP KO/TKO is up to (+165) btw.

Yep on it..

[Hugo de Naranja]

Hendo by head kick KO

[UncleChael]

I have a 3 team parlay Tumenov - Moose itd. - Bisping.... should hit? I think you bet the house on Bisping. Belfort is now a fish out of water on his back now, and mooses judo should be able to get him there? Belfort did rock Weidman don't forget. Tumenov I played because I'm a fan and should win?
I played Andre Fili one unit and 2.5 Dodson last event that was all I would've got burn't so bad. Brooks I liked.

[Demonata]

Bisping is fighting way better nowadays. He follows through with his punches instead of looking to pull back and that's why he's got more power in them than before. Anybody that bets henderson just loves taking underdogs because nothing points to that old man winning.

[JIBBBY]

Unless its TRT vitor.like you said fire---it should be over round 1 IMO...

Fight doesn't get out of the first round prop is tempting Paper.. Vitor is usually hit or miss early on, and that's whether he is on the juice or not.

Mousasi could get the early steam roll finish here...

On the flip punchers chance Vitor gets the early KO on Mousasi if he comes out overly aggressive like he sometimes does in fights and hits the mark... Mousasi doesn't have a granite chin either..

1138 Fight won’t start round 2

+112

[Hugo de Naranja]

Fight doesn't get out of the first round prop is tempting Paper.. Vitor is usually hit or miss early on, and that's whether he is on the juice or not.

Mousasi could get the early steam roll finish here...

On the flip punchers chance Vitor gets the early KO on Mousasi if he comes out overly aggressive like he sometimes does in fights and hits the mark... Mousasi doesn't have a granite chin either..

1138 Fight won’t start round 2

+112

I played this for a few units a couple days ago. Think it should be more like (-160)

[Sanity Check]

For old times sake'.

[firekillex]

Just watched the Weigh ins
add mousasi to every parlay you got

[JIBBBY]

Just watched the Weigh ins
add mousasi to every parlay you got

Vitor soft looking agreed...

Mousasi even showing Vitor little to no respect leading up.. http://mmajunkie.com/2016/10/gegard-...-title-picture

[Hugo de Naranja]

UFC 204 Picks:
Adriano Martins Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
Mike Perry Round 1 KO (Punches)
Mark Diakiese Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
Albert Tumenov Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
Damian Stasiak Round 2 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Brad Pickett Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Mirsad Bektic Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
Daniel Omielanczuk Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Ovince Saint Preux Round 2 KO (Punch) *FOTN
Gegard Mousasi Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Dan Henderson Round 2 KO (Head Kick)

[Hugo de Naranja]

UFC Fight 204: Bisping vs. Henderson Draftkings Double Up Lineup:
Gerard Mousasi ($9,400)
Michael Bisping ($9,100)
Adriano Martins ($8,600)
Ovince Saint Preux ($8,400)
Daniel Omielanczuk ($7,700)
Russell Doane ($6,500)

Risk: 2u

UFC Fight 204: Bisping vs. Henderson Draftkings Tournament Lineup:
Gerard Mousasi ($9,400)
Albert Tumenov ($9,200)
Ovince Saint Preux ($8,400)
Mike Perry ($8,100)
Daniel Omielanczuk ($7,700)
Dan Henderson ($7,100)

Risk: .25u

[Hugo de Naranja]

UFC 204: Bisping vs. Henderson

Fight #1: Santos vs. Martins:
No Bet

Fight #2: Roberts vs. Perry:
Perry Scorecards = No Action (-111) 2.22u to win 2u
Perry Scorecards = No Action (+114) 1u
Perry (+130) 1u
Perry KO/TKO (+215) 1.5u
Perry Round 2 (+650) .5u
Perry Decision (+1030) .75u
Roberts/Perry Draw (+7000) .125u

Hedge(s):
Roberts Submission (+397) 1u
Roberts Decision (+575) 1.5u
Roberts Round 2 (+675) .5u
Roberts Round 3 (+1275) .25u

Fight #3: Sajewski vs. Diakiese (DEBUT):
Sajewski (+220) 1u

Fight #4: Tumenov vs. Edwards:
Tumenov Decision (+251) 1.5u

Hedge(s):
Edwards Scorecards = No Action (+450) .5u
Edwards Submission (+1545) .25u

Fight #5: Grant vs. Stasiak:
Stasiak Submission (+530) 1u
Stasiak Round 2 (+950) .5u

Hedge:
Grant -3.5 (+140) 1.5u

Fight #6: Alcantara vs. Pickett:
No Bet

Fight #7: Bektic vs. Doane:
Bektic ITD (+131) 1u
Bektic Submission (+925) .25u

Fight #8: Struve vs. Omielanczuk:
Omielanczuk Decision (+534) 1u
Struve/Omielanczuk Draw (+7000) .125u

Fight #9: Saint Preux vs. Manuwa:
Saint Preux (-150) 4.5u to win 3u
Saint Preux/Manuwa Goes Distance (+350) 1u
Saint Preux Round 2 (+500) .75u
Saint Preux Submission (+700) .25u

Hedge(s):
Manuwa Decision (+686) .5u
Manuwa Decision (+1015) .5u

Fight #10: Mousasi vs. Belfort:
Mousasi KO/TKO (+100) 1u
Mousasi/Belfort Won’t Start Round 2 (+105) 3u
Mousasi/Belfort Under 1.5 Rounds (-125) 2.5u to win 2u
Belfort Round 1 (+700) .5u

Hedge(s):
Mousasi Decision (+650) .5u
Belfort Round 2 (+1200) .25u
Belfort Submission (+2000) .25u

Fight #11: Bisping (C) vs. Henderson:
Henderson ITD (+300) 2u
Henderson KO/TKO (+345) 1u
Henderson Round 1 (+650) .5u
Henderson Round 2 (+825) .5u
Henderson Round 2 (+1000) .5u
Henderson Round 3 (+1450) .25u

Hedge(s):
Bisping Decision (+420) 1u
Bisping Unanimous Decision (+565) 2u
Bisping Round 4 (+1050) .5u
Bisping Round 5 (+1650) .25u

Straight Parlays:
St. Preux/Mousasi+Belfort Won’t Go Distance (+109) 1.5u
St. Preux/Mousasi (+110) 1u
Font+Entwistle Under 1.5 Rounds/Tumenov (+122) 1u

Prop Parlays:
Mousasi -3.5/Bisping -5.5 (+124) 2u
Mousasi KO/Font+Entwistle Won’t Start Round 2 (+222) .75u
Tumenov Decision/Bektic Decision (+669) .5u
Entwistle ITD/Bektic Decision (+916) .5u
Grant Decision/Font KO/Saint Preux KO (+934) .5u
Pickett Decision/Struve Decision (+1206) .5u
Martins Decision/Roberts+Perry Go Distance (+1260) .25u
Perry Scorecards=NA/Tumenov Decision/Grant Decision (+1502) .25u
Stasiak Submission/Bektic Decision (+1600) .25u
Tumenov Decision/Omielanczuk Decision (+1866) .25u
Perry Round 1/Saint Preux KO/Mousasi KO (+2280) .25u
Edwards Scorecards=NA/Omielanczuk KO (+2568) .25u
Struve Decision/Bisping Unanimous Decision (+2606) .25u
Roberts Round 2/Mousasi Round 2 (+3387) .25u
Belfort Round 1/Bisping Unanimous Decision (+4180) .25u
Roberts Decision/Manuwa Decision (+5974) .125u
Edwards Scorecards=NA/Entwistle Scorecards=NA/Pickett Decision (+6403) .25u
Manuwa Decision/Henderson Round 2 (+11329) .125u

Multi-Event Parlays:
Gall+Punk Won’t Start R2/Henderson+Bisping Won’t Go Distance (+135) 1u
St. Preux KO/Souza Round 1 (+1880) .25u
Bisping Decision/McGregor Decision (+4455) .25u
Saint Preux Submission/Ferguson Submission (+5100) .25u
Henderson Round 2/Ferguson Round 2 (+12500) .125u

Full Card Props:
Over 4.5 Fights Go Distance (+110) 1u
Over 5.5 Fights Go Distance (+311) .75u
No Fights End in Submission (+637) 1u
Over 6.5 Fights Go Distance (+869) .25u
Mark Diakiese Wins Fastest KO (+1400) .25u
Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+2800) .125u
Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+13500) .125u

[Thrilla]

[JIBBBY]

WSOF and AXS fights are on and popping tonight..

Someone should have started a thread on this... Good fight card tonight actually..

Props out on the WSOF...

Some good fights tonight with WSOF.. Preview and predictions for WSOF..

http://www.mmamania.com/2016/10/6/12982880/wsof-33-predictions-preview-gaethje-vs-dugulubgov-nbc-sports-mma

[Unwritten Law]

Shawn Jordan to start the main cards.

[JIBBBY]

Shawn Jordan to start the main cards.

Big favorite.. I took him ITD..

[Unwritten Law]

Pretty much like all the favorites. Any dogs stick out to you?

[JIBBBY]

Pretty much like all the favorites. Any dogs stick out to you?

Maybe Vinny Mag by submission.. He was in the UFC..11 sub wins. That's about it for dog play..

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Vinny-Magalhaes-10709

[Unwritten Law]

Branch and Vinny fght bumped up to the Main Event.

[JIBBBY]

Branch and Vinny fght bumped up to the Main Event.

WSOF 33 - Light Heavyweight 5 rounds - Kansas City Memorial Auditorium - Kansas City, Missouri - NBCSN

Fri 10/7		5101 Vinny Magalhaes		+245	o2½ +100
11:00PM		5102 Dave Branch		-290	u2½ -120
WSOF 33 - Lightweight 3 rounds - Kansas City Memorial Auditorium - Kansas City, Missouri - NBCSN
Fri 10/7		5201 Joao Zeferino		+170	o2½ -155
11:00PM		5202 Jason High		-200	u2½ +135
WSOF 33 - Lightweight 3 rounds - Kansas City Memorial Auditorium - Kansas City, Missouri - NBCSN
Fri 10/7		5301 Brian Foster		+120	o1½ -160
11:00PM		5302 Luiz Firmino		-140	u1½ +140
WSOF 33 - Welterweight 3 rounds - Kansas City Memorial Auditorium - Kansas City, Missouri - NBCSN
Fri 10/7		5401 Abubakar Nurmagomedov		-430	o2½ -185
11:00PM		5402 John Howard		+345	u2½ +160
WSOF 33 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - Kansas City Memorial Auditorium - Kansas City, Missouri - NBCSN
Fri 10/7		5501 Shawn Jordan		-300	o1½ +135
11:00PM		5502 Ashley Gooch		+250	u1½ -155

[LBfightlife]

I tried to give you mad points for this Jibbbz but it wouldnt let me. I know care what anyone says, #WARHENDO FOR LIVE are you kidding me?

How can you not be pro hendo . Hes my favorite. and Clinch Gear is the shit. favorite of all time.

Bisping has been fighting cans and or just getting by with sketchy decisions.. Hendo has been fighting the cream of the crop and holding his own for the most part, hit and miss.. Showed his heart and manhood taking out Hector Lombard down in Brazil in his last fight.. I was even shocked at that comeback upset..

Let's dig deeper into just who Bisping has beaten to get the title.. Starting 5 fights ago... I remember it like this -

- Bisping beat CB Dollaway by decision, CB Dolloway was always over rated and sucks now, but CB clearly got out worked and out classed by Bisping standing in that fight to a decision.....

- Luke Rockhold steam rolled Bisping in their 1st match up.. Luke man handled Bisping and got him out of there by choke in the second round after beating the crap out of him.

- Bisping then fought an over the hill Cung Lee in China... Danced and peppered his way to a 5 round decision.. Clinic standing by Bisping..

- Bisping then fights Thales Leites whom Bisping was running from all fight and fighting scared every round.. Almost got finished by the punching power of Leites at one point but survived... He barely got that decision win.. Could have been a robbery..

- 40 year old Anderson Silva had next and again a close decision win for Bisping but Silva was far past his prime and the fight was in the UK.. Home town judging kicked in for sure.. Anderson not a full training camp either..

- Then the shocking quick dry KO of Luke Rockhold in the rematch to get the UFC titile belt and shock the world.. More lucky then good though IMO.. Luke was not himself in that fight from the very start and got caught almost immediately... A bit fluky..

- Now Bisping faces another heavy hitter in Hendo whom already knocked him out and in to another universe.. Bisping a bit older and softer looking, Hendo just older..


I will say Bisping is getting very good at fighting scared and going backwards for decision wins..

Still Hendo walks Bisping down and is confident, connects with the H-bomb again lights out..

AND NEW.... DAN HENDERSON!!!! Retire and then sail off into the sunset.. Hall of famer to be remembered..


http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Michael-Bisping-10196

[Hugo de Naranja]

WSOF 33 - Light Heavyweight 5 rounds - Kansas City Memorial Auditorium - Kansas City, Missouri - NBCSN

Fri 10/7		5101 Vinny Magalhaes		+245	o2½ +100
11:00PM		5102 Dave Branch		-290	u2½ -120
WSOF 33 - Lightweight 3 rounds - Kansas City Memorial Auditorium - Kansas City, Missouri - NBCSN
Fri 10/7		5201 Joao Zeferino		+170	o2½ -155
11:00PM		5202 Jason High		-200	u2½ +135
WSOF 33 - Lightweight 3 rounds - Kansas City Memorial Auditorium - Kansas City, Missouri - NBCSN
Fri 10/7		5301 Brian Foster		+120	o1½ -160
11:00PM		5302 Luiz Firmino		-140	u1½ +140
WSOF 33 - Welterweight 3 rounds - Kansas City Memorial Auditorium - Kansas City, Missouri - NBCSN
Fri 10/7		5401 Abubakar Nurmagomedov		-430	o2½ -185
11:00PM		5402 John Howard		+345	u2½ +160
WSOF 33 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - Kansas City Memorial Auditorium - Kansas City, Missouri - NBCSN
Fri 10/7		5501 Shawn Jordan		-300	o1½ +135
11:00PM		5502 Ashley Gooch		+250	u1½ -155

Too bad the ME got cancelled. I'm a huge Gaethje fan.

[LBfightlife]

Bisping is fighting way better nowadays. He follows through with his punches instead of looking to pull back and that's why he's got more power in them than before. Anybody that bets henderson just loves taking underdogs because nothing points to that old man winning.

Yea and what did all of you guys say about Hendo VS Lombard? I actually didnt even bet Hendo that fight because I was F***Cking listening to all you guys.. kicked myself in the penetrating ass for it as he was like +330.. Never sleep on Hendo.. ever.. Ive been saying it for years.

[JIBBBY]

Too bad the ME got cancelled. I'm a huge Gaethje fan.

No shiiit.. Would have been on Gaethje ITD big..

[Hugo de Naranja]

No shiiit.. Would have been on Gaethje ITD big..

Next time. Excited to see him in the UFC one day. Dude is a stud and very fun to watch