Future Fights Thread

**Demonata** · 11-19-17, 01:27 AM

Bestfightodds has nate diaz vs tyron woodly odds under ufc 219. Im pissed because does that mean the fights on or not?the holly holm vs cyborg wasnt listed there until it was confirmed.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-19-17, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by Demonata

Bestfightodds has nate diaz vs tyron woodly odds under ufc 219. Im pissed because does that mean the fights on or not?the holly holm vs cyborg wasnt listed there until it was confirmed.

Since only Bovada has it right now I would say not yet.

**Demonata** · 11-19-17, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Since only Bovada has it right now I would say not yet.

Cyborg better not be main event. I hate women main events!!!!!!

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-19-17, 01:33 AM

Yeah that would be disappointing for what is supposed to be a big card.

**strictlypaypal** · 11-19-17, 02:26 AM

Anybody feel like holm has a legit shot to beat cyborg? I thought the odds would be cyborg -170 or something. Cyborg has been winning but takes more and more time to put lower level opponents away as each match goes by. I dont see her ko’ing holm and if holm turns it on late i think shes a very live dog here.

Excited for ortega/swanson such a good fight. Woodley Diaz makes no sense but im down lol

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-19-17, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by strictlypaypal

Anybody feel like holm has a legit shot to beat cyborg? I thought the odds would be cyborg -170 or something. Cyborg has been winning but takes more and more time to put lower level opponents away as each match goes by. I dont see her ko’ing holm and if holm turns it on late i think shes a very live dog here.

Excited for ortega/swanson such a good fight. Woodley Diaz makes no sense but im down lol

I honestly don't think Holm has much of a shot at all here. She can't get TDs and Cyborg is a much more powerful striker who rarely tires.

**firekillex** · 11-19-17, 02:35 AM

if the fight was strictly standing up id give holm a shot because she strives against aggressive strikers
but cyborg will most likely to get her down and holm doesnt have the best ground game... i like cyborg possibly by sub here

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-19-17, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

if the fight was strictly standing up id give holm a shot because she strives against aggressive strikers
but cyborg will most likely to get her down and holm doesnt have the best ground game... i like cyborg possibly by sub here

I think that would be Cyborg's first career sub but I could see it happening.

**Sato** · 11-19-17, 10:53 AM

Cyborg by u. dec. IMO. Holly will sloppily stick and move like she always does and Cyborg will have the better moments and stay out of trouble.

**Demonata** · 11-19-17, 10:53 AM

I see a second round tko by cyborg. Shes a freak of nature

**firekillex** · 11-21-17, 12:15 AM

will i be the only one on the forum whos on aldo at this underdog price?
people will forget he was up 2 rounds to 0
if he actually throws leg kicks this fight i think hell get a win

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-21-17, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

will i be the only one on the forum whos on aldo at this underdog price?
people will forget he was up 2 rounds to 0
if he actually throws leg kicks this fight i think hell get a win

That's very possible. Holloway is one of my absolute favorite fighters but I think the value is on Aldo (perhaps by Decision) at this price.

**firekillex** · 11-21-17, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

That's very possible. Holloway is one of my absolute favorite fighters but I think the value is on Aldo (perhaps by Decision) at this price.

i like holloway , one of the best ufc winning streaks in history , but i thought Aldo looked way faster and better in the exchanges until round 3 when he got clipped.... if he threw any leg kicks i think he could win especially at +200 or more i like the value , then possibly hedge with holloway rd 3-5 finish

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-21-17, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

i like holloway , one of the best ufc winning streaks in history , but i thought Aldo looked way faster and better in the exchanges until round 3 when he got clipped.... if he threw any leg kicks i think he could win especially at +200 or more i like the value , then possibly hedge with holloway rd 3-5 finish

Seems like a logical way to play it.

**Demonata** · 11-21-17, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by firekillex

will i be the only one on the forum whos on aldo at this underdog price?
people will forget he was up 2 rounds to 0
if he actually throws leg kicks this fight i think hell get a win

Im on aldo. I feel he is smart enough to learn from his mistakes from the first fight. He was winning that fight. Yeah it pissed me off when he wasnt throwing leg kicks. Like when he faught frankie edgar threw like no keg kicks the whole fight. Was so mad i kept yelling at the tv and the waitress why he wasnt throwing leg kicks i was so drunk lol.

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 11-21-17, 10:23 AM

you guys are burning your money fading Holloway

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-23-17, 03:50 PM

Is the TUF Finale card the day before UFC 218 even taking place? Like none of those fights have been announced. I'm aware that some will be fighters from the TUF show but even then it would be like an eight fight card if they don't add anything.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-23-17, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

you guys are burning your money fading Holloway

Why is that? I favor Holloway to win but I think Aldo's chances are being underrated at the current ML price.

**Sato** · 11-23-17, 05:49 PM

I dont think you will ever get Aldo at +265 ever again.

**firekillex** · 11-23-17, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Sato

I dont think you will ever get Aldo at +265 ever again.

people forget he beat frankie after the mcgregor ko and was winning 2 rounds to 0 against holloway before getting stopped
aldo is ALOT better then people are giving him credit for imo

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-23-17, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

people forget he beat frankie after the mcgregor ko and was winning 2 rounds to 0 against holloway before getting stopped
aldo is ALOT better then people are giving him credit for imo

I agree. I think Holloway should be like (-180) in this spot and I bet him huge in their first fight.

**firekillex** · 11-23-17, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

I agree. I think Holloway should be like (-180) in this spot and I bet him huge in their first fight.

id lean 60/40 holloway just because all his momentum, age and gas tank
but i think aldo is a better/ fast / powerful striker

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 11-24-17, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Why is that? I favor Holloway to win but I think Aldo's chances are being underrated at the current ML price.

Aldo is not the same guy that did not lose for 10 years...he still has not recovered mentally from that 12 second KO from McGregor...

Conversely, Holloway's confidence is through the roof and he's flying high..

2 guys whose careers are going in different directions and Max will finish Aldo inside the distance once again..

It's the Blessed Era, you better recognize

**Hugo de Naranja** · 11-25-17, 04:28 AM

Does anyone have early thoughts about Nurmy vs. Barboza?

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-02-17, 02:00 PM

Ran into Jeremy Kimball at the MGM Top Golf. Nice dude.

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 12-02-17, 02:32 PM

still think Holloway wins but starting to see it your way, price too steep

Aldo really needs to come out guns blazing and try and swarm Max before he gets in a groove to have a shot

**Sato** · 12-04-17, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Sato

Cyborg by u. dec. IMO. Holly will sloppily stick and move like she always does and Cyborg will have the better moments and stay out of trouble.

I actually thought about this and I have to change my stance on this. Smith, Lansberg and Evinger werent real tests for Cyborg and she didnt have to dig deep for the win.

Holly is probably the toughest opponent she will have faced, maybe ever in MMA. Broad shoulders, actual strength and a solid stick and move style. Interesting to see what happens in the championship rounds. I love the Holly ML line and dec. prop (+170) tbh. Cyborgs odds are unplayable for me.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-04-17, 05:04 PM

Cyborg KO/TKO (-110) 5.5u to win 5u

I'm planning to be huge on Cyborg in this spot. I think Holm's only path to victory is landing a flush Head Kick in a fight that she is losing so I'm hedging with Holm KO/TKO at (+1300). I think Cyborg has better volume, power, cardio, footwork, pace, technique, and depth of skill than Holm. This fight is a total mismatch in my eyes and I think Cyborg ML is very parlayable at (-330) if you're not a fan of props.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-04-17, 10:20 PM

Miocic (+130) 5u

Versus Ngannou in 2018 Title Fight

**WolfTicketDealer** · 12-04-17, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Miocic (+130) 5u

Versus Ngannou in 2018 Title Fight

+130 is crazy value on Stipe. Ngannou hype train is out of control, Stipe's so much more skilled and has a very good chin. Won't max bet because it's heavyweights and anything can happen, but definitely will throw a couple units on it.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-04-17, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by WolfTicketDealer

+130 is crazy value on Stipe. Ngannou hype train is out of control, Stipe's so much more skilled and has a very good chin. Won't max bet because it's heavyweights and anything can happen, but definitely will throw a couple units on it.

I like Ngannou a lot but I think this line is way off.

**UncleChael** · 12-06-17, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Slightly favor RDA. Will play Lawler KO/TKO as a bet or hedge.

LETS GOOO RDA!! I wish it was today!!

**firekillex** · 12-06-17, 04:59 PM

ngannou vs stipe is the most coin toss fight ive ever seen tbh
wouldnt touch that fight with a 10 foot pole loll.. just going to enjoy that as a fan

Ngannou touches you its night night, not sure Stipe can get him down but his movement and speed can be a problem
very very tough fight to break down because weve seen so little of Ngannou

**Sato** · 12-06-17, 05:08 PM

Stipe needs to take this fight into the championship rounds. He cant exchange with a fresh Ngannou. Dumbest idea ever. I believe Stipe is the better overall fighter from what we have seen. They need to find a way to tire this guy out whether with body shots or heavy leg kicks. When he tastes Ngannous power and survives that shot he will be afraid to do anything after that. That fight is such a mess.

**Sato** · 12-08-17, 08:42 AM

GSP vacates MW title. So much for the "Im contractually obligated to defend" talk. Whittaker crowned undisputed champion.

UFC 221 Whittaker Vs. Rockhold for the title in Australia.