UFC on FOX: Holm vs. Shevchenko (July 23, 2016)

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 07-23-16, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

They already fought recently , Ferguson choked him out was a war though

yup. i love ferguson.

**HurlSweatPants** · 07-23-16, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

They already fought recently , Ferguson choked him out was a war though

Part deux. I think Barbosa looks like a totally different fighter at this point though. Really, anyone he fights in front of him would be fun to watch, now that I think about it maybe RDA before Cucuy.

**Ty$** · 07-23-16, 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=bjpenn85;26040670]

Originally posted by Ty$

The style matchup favoured barboza like a mf. Gilbert tko +900 was the only possible outcome. Barbozas takedown defence from maybe 1 year ago or maybe more developed to become 100%. You cant take him down. I could probably have written this stuff up so people understood why i wagered on him.

I thought the exact same thing then thought about it way too much ... Good call

**Ty$** · 07-23-16, 08:34 PM

Ferguson is great but leaves himself so open for shots. If he fought Eddie he'd get KOd ... I hope that fight happens... I was at the fight live In Siuox Falls and I wasn't too impressed.

**HurlSweatPants** · 07-23-16, 08:34 PM

Of course Stann goes with Holm.

**KalouKalou** · 07-23-16, 08:35 PM

Jibby I'm curious why do you like Woodley?

**JIBBBY** · 07-23-16, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

yup. i love ferguson.

His last fight was insane!!!.. He was so rocked and out on his feet.. He caught one flush on the chin.. A miracle he didn't get finished..

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 07-23-16, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by HurlSweatPants

Part deux. I think Barbosa looks like a totally different fighter at this point though. Really, anyone he fights in front of him would be fun to watch, now that I think about it maybe RDA before Cucuy.

lol what are you talking about totally different fighter? he is the same fighter that fought him couple fights ago.

**Ty$** · 07-23-16, 08:37 PM

Holm straight and Unanimous

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 07-23-16, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

His last fight was insane!!!.. He was so rocked and out on his feet.. He caught one flush on the chin.. A miracle he didn't get finished..

yeah man, he always brings it. i don't know if he's gonna beat khabib but i'm gonna root for him. i like his fighting style. khabib is good but his fights are boring.

**JIBBBY** · 07-23-16, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by KalouKalou

Jibby I'm curious why do you like Woodley?

Well, he's hungry and ready based on the recent interviews I've seen, he's upped his training for this 5 rounder from sources here in LA where I live.. He's also trained with Lawler in the past and rumors have it he took it to Ruthless....

I think Woodley will have enough cardio going into this fight, he'll have the speed and wrestling advantage.. Speed kills... I like Woodley...

**JIBBBY** · 07-23-16, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Ty$

Holm straight and Unanimous

I'm straight and by KO myself..

**HurlSweatPants** · 07-23-16, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

lol what are you talking about totally different fighter? he is the same fighter that fought him couple fights ago.

No way, the old Barbosa would have been in more trouble in this fight with Melendez, when he would get caught the fight would totally change. He seems to stick to the game plan more and apparently has been seeing a psychologist during his camps to better deal with it. Not saying the would beat anyone of the people he named, I just don't think the fight would go the exact same. If he fought Ferg I feel he would be as calculated as you possibly can fighting him.

**KalouKalou** · 07-23-16, 08:44 PM

Weird line movement Holm @-145
Usually it's not good

**Ty$** · 07-23-16, 08:44 PM

BJ!! Lawler or Woodley? Diaz/Mac?

**firekillex** · 07-23-16, 08:45 PM

Barbosa won 10-8 on 2 judges cards round 1 and then got subbed by tony ... Lol he wasn't getting dominated at all what are you guys talking about

Ferguson is one of my favourite fighters to his heart won him that fight , you could easily say Edson is the most skilled fighter in the division but his heart and mind wasn't always there , would be a wicked rematch but I'd like to see tony vs Khabib since they have so much bad blood, barbosa vs rda could really show where he's at if he wins he gets a shot

**Ty$** · 07-23-16, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by KalouKalou

Weird line movement Holm @-145
Usually it's not good

Didn't hurt Lineker that little beast

**HurlSweatPants** · 07-23-16, 08:46 PM

Hugo- lets see who has the juice lol....GL man!

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 07-23-16, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Well, he's hungry and ready based on the recent interviews I've seen, he's upped his training for this 5 rounder from sources here in LA where I live.. He's also trained with Lawler in the past and rumors have it he took it to Ruthless....

I think Woodley will have enough cardio going into this fight, he'll have the speed and wrestling advantage.. Speed kills... I like Woodley...

judges love lawler though. even when he clearly lost fights, they just give him the win. woodley better knock him out and not leave it up to the judges' hands.

**Ty$** · 07-23-16, 08:48 PM

2 counter strikers jibby.. Could turn to be slow and boring

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 07-23-16, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by HurlSweatPants

No way, the old Barbosa would have been in more trouble in this fight with Melendez, when he would get caught the fight would totally change. He seems to stick to the game plan more and apparently has been seeing a psychologist during his camps to better deal with it. Not saying the would beat anyone of the people he named, I just don't think the fight would go the exact same. If he fought Ferg I feel he would be as calculated as you possibly can fighting him.

dude, why don't you watch the first fight before asking for a 2nd one? they just fought last december. gilbert is slow as fukk. that's why barboza looked so good today.

**HurlSweatPants** · 07-23-16, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

dude, why don't you watch the first fight before asking for a 2nd one? they just fought last december. gilbert is slow as fukk. that's why barboza looked so good today.

Dude. Get over it. I just made my point as to why I would like to see another fight between them NOW. And I also said that I would actually rather see him fight RDA. Get off my d.ick

**HurlSweatPants** · 07-23-16, 08:56 PM

Shevchenko seems to be settling in.

**ufcfan2016** · 07-23-16, 08:58 PM

round 1 holly round 2 valintina

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 07-23-16, 08:59 PM

holly is much bigger but seems a bit slower.

**firekillex** · 07-23-16, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by HurlSweatPants

Dude. Get over it. I just made my point as to why I would like to see another fight between them NOW. And I also said that I would actually rather see him fight RDA. Get off my d.ick

Id watch that fight 10 times in a row was a crazy fight .. But realistically Ferguson or barbosa vs anybody will usually be a barn burner

**firekillex** · 07-23-16, 08:59 PM

I got it 1-1 holm has some beautiful defense though

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 07-23-16, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by HurlSweatPants

Dude. Get over it. I just made my point as to why I would like to see another fight between them NOW. And I also said that I would actually rather see him fight RDA. Get off my d.ick

lol ok idiot.

**bjpenn85** · 07-23-16, 09:00 PM

Valentinas winning, people betting on Holm should consider betting on Valentina now and.....how stupid dont the holly holm backers look now...you had the opportunity to buy the better striker for +250....

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 07-23-16, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

Id watch that fight 10 times in a row was a crazy fight .. But realistically Ferguson or barbosa vs anybody will usually be a barn burner

fukker doesn't even watch one of the best fights in the ufc and asks for a 2nd fight. and acts like he knows. only at sbr. fukking idiot.

**HurlSweatPants** · 07-23-16, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

Id watch that fight 10 times in a row was a crazy fight .. But realistically Ferguson or barbosa vs anybody will usually be a barn burner

Agreed. Alvarez and RDA as well. I think that is why Conor isn't making much noise anymore about testing this division, he knows it's stacked.

**bjpenn85** · 07-23-16, 09:02 PM

Look how much better valentina is here...jesus christ she is even better than i thought.

**ufcfan2016** · 07-23-16, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Valentinas winning, people betting on Holm should consider betting on Valentina now and.....how stupid dont the holly holm backers look now...you had the opportunity to buy the better striker for +250....

that line movment went down drastically on valentina
had to grab her at +140

**firekillex** · 07-23-16, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by HurlSweatPants

Agreed. Alvarez and RDA as well. I think that is why Conor isn't making much noise anymore about testing this division, he knows it's stacked.

Connor would get mauled by the top 5 in lightweight imo

**mcfugly** · 07-23-16, 09:03 PM

Why are the books at like -500 live on holm if shevchenko is winning?