UFC Fight Night: Cowboy vs. Oliveira (February 21, 2016)

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  • JoshKnows46
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    #211
    Originally posted by Sanity Check
    Anyone remember what happened in the Luke Barnatt vs Sean Strickland and Alex Garcia vs Neil Magny fights?

    Sherdog judges scored it 30-27, 30-27 and 30-28 for Barnatt defeating Strickland. http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC...ean-strickland

    Sherdog judges scored it 29-28, 29-28, 29-28 for Garcia defeating Magny. http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC...cia-neil-magny

    Not remembering if Cathal Pendred achievement awards were handed out on those nights.

    Strickland might be overrated and Garcia might be underrated leading into that 1.
    Sean strickland beat Luke by split dec, and Garcia lost to neil magny by unanimous dec.
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    • Sanity Check
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      #212
      Originally posted by JoshKnows46
      Sean strickland beat Luke by split dec, and Garcia lost to neil magny by unanimous dec.
      Things I never knew...

      I have it something like this.

      Don't tail me, bro. For this card I don't recognize these names and flipped a coin.

      Donald Cerrone < Alex Oliveira
      Derek Brunson > Roan Carneiro
      Cody Garbrandt > Augusto Mendes
      Dennis Bermudez > Tatsuya Kawajiri
      Chris Camozzi < Joe Riggs
      James Krause < Shane Campbell


      Alex Garcia > Sean Strickland
      Daniel Sarafian < Oluwale Bamgbose
      Anthony Smith > Leonardo Augusto Guimarães
      Jonavin Webb > Nathan Coy


      Marion Reneau > Ashlee Evans-Smith
      Lauren Murphy > Kelly Faszholz
      Anthony Hamilton > Shamil Abdurakhimov
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      • Killer_Demo
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        #213
        Anybody betting marion reneau?
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        • JIBBBY
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          #214
          I'm looking forward to live betting a few fights after round 1 on this card myself.. Have to stay on top of things and pay attention in between rounds while in my drunken state and posting.. Multi tasking 101, I got this!!!
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          • bjpenn85
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            #215
            Originally posted by Killer_Demo
            Anybody betting marion reneau?
            Just a small bet. I believe evans-smith has good enough control abilities to make life kind of hard for Reneau. Evans-smith is very aggressive in her pursuit for the takedown, and she won the first round against pennington if she hadnt getting caught in the end of the round. One more round like that and she had won against pennington. But then you have to cinsider, why does evans-smith always get submitted and finished when she loses, probably because she sucks, so it may go both ways, if its a finish then its reneau winning, but with a decision it can be evans-smith who taked the victory. In conclusion i believe that evans-smith will make a mistake during the three rounds, standing or on the ground, but the lack of tape on her in the ufc means that you cant make a large wager on M.R. One simply doesnt now Evans-smith strengths and weaknesses fully so its a major risk. I have Evans Smith decision small as a hedge.
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            • Killer_Demo
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              #216
              Originally posted by bjpenn85
              Just a small bet. I believe evans-smith has good enough control abilities to make life kind of hard for Reneau. Evans-smith is very aggressive in her pursuit for the takedown, and she won the first round against pennington if she hadnt getting caught in the end of the round. One more round like that and she had won against pennington. But then you have to cinsider, why does evans-smith always get submitted and finished when she loses, probably because she sucks, so it may go both ways, if its a finish then its reneau winning, but with a decision it can be evans-smith who taked the victory. In conclusion i believe that evans-smith will make a mistake during the three rounds, standing or on the ground, but the lack of tape on her in the ufc means that you cant make a large wager on M.R. One simply doesnt now Evans-smith strengths and weaknesses fully so its a major risk. I have Evans Smith decision small as a hedge.
              Nice breakdown
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              • TPowell
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                #217
                Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                Anybody betting marion reneau?

                I am, she's much better on the feet and Evans Smith will get caught getting sloppy going for the takedown at some point. She has a ton of ways to win this fight
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                • JIBBBY
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                  #218
                  ^^^Let me help you guys out ^^^^ Copy and paste - (I highlighted the key points)

                  135 lbs.: Marion Reneau vs. Ashlee Evans-Smith

                  Marion Reneau (6-2) smashed her way to contendership with a three-round beating of Alexis Dufresne and comeback submission of Jessica Andrade. In July 2015, she got the opportunity to halt the rise of Holly Holm, but ultimately lost a decision to "Preacher’s Daughter."Marion Renea owns five of her six wins via stoppage, three of those knockouts.


                  Ashlee Evans-Smith (3-1) entered the mainstream with a technical knockout win over Fallon Fox, which she followed with another stoppage under the World Series of Fighting (WSOF) banner. She joined UFC as a late replacement for Holm against Raquel Pennington afterward, only to lose via submission and fail a drug test for a diuretic.

                  As a result, this will be her first fight in 14 months.
                  Honestly, Evans-Smith doesn’t have a lot going for her here. Besides the layoff, Reneau is the bigger puncher and likely the better grappler. "The Bruiser" is 38 years old, true, but still managed to keep pace with Holm in her loss.
                  The real question here is whether Evans-Smith -- who has a history of being stopped as an amateur and professional -- can make it to the final bell. I say no -- Reneau puts her down with punches sometime in the second round.

                  My play -


                  $100.00 $155.00 Pending 2/21/16 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2009 Reneau wins inside distance +155* <small>vs</small> Not Reneau inside distance
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                  • Sanity Check
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                    Anybody betting marion reneau?
                    I need Reneau to finish a small parlay with Royce.

                    If the outcome were based on their last fights, I would have Reneau as a lock. Reneau is good standing, she trains muay thai under Rafael Cordeiro and is a world champion at bjj with a brown belt in bjj and already has wins over Alexis Dufresne a wrestler and Jessica Andrade. What complicates things is Ashlee Evans Smith hasn't fought in more than a year. She might have improved her sub defense enough to lay and pray to a w. Or not having fought for a year could mean Smith had to take a job and work full time, and will be worse than she was the last time she fought due to her not training as much. Smith being out for a year+ and how much she improved or deteriorated will probably be the determining factor.

                    edit -

                    nvm reposted below
                    Last edited by Sanity Check; 02-21-16, 12:28 PM.
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                    • JIBBBY
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                      #220
                      Only fight I'm still trying to work out in my head is the Joe Riggs/Camozzi match up for prop play - hhhm??

                      Thinking Riggs shoots and shoots for take downs in this one.. If he can take down Camozzi without getting injured himself he will have a huge advantage on the ground.. Camozzi looked lost on the ground against Jacare.. Understandable though being it's Jacare.. Camozzi is still suspect on the ground even against a can like Joe Diesel perhaps.. If Joe takes the back he could sub him out.. Joe Riggs was always decent on the ground anyways..

                      1427 Riggs wins by submission <input id="radiox" value="M1_102" name="radiox" type="radio">+1010
                      Flip side Camozzi is tough as nails standing and has decent take down defense.. Gotta figure Joe Riggs probably gets dropped and doesn't make it 3 rounds against the pressure fighter Camozzi standing... Joe usually makes the hard weigh cuts and probably gasses out late if it gets into the late rounds anyways.. Joe Riggs doesn't sport the granite jaw and never did either...


                      1433 Camozzi wins by TKO/KO <input id="radiox" value="M1_105" name="radiox" type="radio">+360

                      May play one prop against the other..
                      Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-21-16, 12:34 PM.
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                      • Sanity Check
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                        #221
                        These profiles list some of their accomplishments other places don't.




                        Ashlee Evans Smith is a decorated wrestler.



                        Marion Reneau is a decorated grappler.

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                        • Sanity Check
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                          #222
                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                          Only fight I'm still trying to work out in my head is the Joe Riggs/Camozzi match up for prop play - hhhm??

                          Thinking if Riggs shoots and can take down Camozzi without getting injured himself he will have a huge advantage on the ground.. Camozzi looked lost on the ground against Jacare.. Understandable though being it's Jacare.. Camozzi is still suspect on the ground though even against a can like Joe Diesel perhaps.. If Joe takes the back he could sub him out.. Joe Riggs was always decent on the ground anyways..

                          1427 Riggs wins by submission <input id="radiox" value="M1_102" name="radiox" type="radio">+1010
                          Flip side Camozzi is tough as nails standing and has decent take down defense.. Gotta figure Joe Riggs probably gets dropped and doesn't make it 3 rounds against the pressure fighter Camozzi standing... Joe usually makes the hard weigh cuts and probably gasses out late if it gets into the late rounds anyways.. Joe Riggs doesn't sport the granite jaw and never did either...


                          1433 Camozzi wins by TKO/KO <input id="radiox" value="M1_105" name="radiox" type="radio">+360

                          May play one prop against the other.. Still undecided on what to do here??
                          I think this is Joe Riggs 2nd fight moving back up to 185.

                          Weight cut shouldn't be as much of an issue as when he was fighting at 170.

                          Biggest issue for Riggs is he has 57 pro fights. That's close to the point where Melvin Guillard, Brian Ebersole and others had their bodies fail on them. All that wear and tear exacts a toll. Riggs accidentally shot himself in the leg not long ago and came close to dying. Then Riggs said he would cut his own dick off and throw it away if Conor McGregor beat Jose Aldo. He looks a bit sketchy at times which makes it hard to have faith in him.

                          I think Riggs should win, but it is a risky play. Not only because of how many fights Riggs has but also because of his prior drug use and other issues.
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                          • JIBBBY
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                            #223
                            ^^Yep Sanity.. Joe Riggs has many miles on that body for sure.. Probably a little kookoo in the head as well, but what MMA fighters aren't a little nuts? I forgot Riggs is fighting at 185 for this one.. Thanks for that reminder... Weight cut was probably still hard for him..

                            Riggs is a fat boy screaming to get out.. Much like Johnny Hendricks in a sense..
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                            • Sanity Check
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                              #224
                              Sometimes I wonder what Johny Hendricks and Daniel Cormier would look like if MMA had never been invented.

                              People say cutting weight is bad but have to wonder if dieting to make weight saved them from morbid obesity.
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                              • JIBBBY
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                                #225
                                Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                Sometimes I wonder what Johny Hendricks and Daniel Cormier would look like if MMA had never been invented.

                                People say cutting weight is bad but have to wonder if dieting to make weight saved them from morbid obesity.
                                Oh absolutely it saves them from being obese... Can usually tell by looking at the parents too.. Rhonda Rousey is another fat girl screaming to get out..

                                The thing is most of these potentially chubby athletes grew up really fat and heavy as kids, that developed hidden muscle strength and or thick bones from carrying around all that extra fat weigh for so long.. Fat kids get picked on and bullied alot so that toughens them up mentally early on as well..

                                So when they do lose all the fat weight - muscle strength is then carried over.. There is an advantage in that regards once these fat athletes trim down and dedicate themselves to their chosen sport professions and stop eating IMO...

                                See this alot in NFL pro athletes.. NBA athletes as well. Charles Barkely comes to mind..


                                Joe Riggs as a kid.. Doesn't even really look like him but it is..



                                Transformation then began..



                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-21-16, 01:35 PM.
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                                • JIBBBY
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                                  #226
                                  170 lbs.: Jonavin Webb vs. Nathan Coy


                                  <small>UFC Fight Night 83 - Welterweight 3 rounds - Consol Energy Center - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - UFC Fight Pass</small>
                                  Sun 2/21 1901 Nathan Coy <input id="editx" name="M1_9" size="4"> +215 <input id="editx" name="L1_9" size="4"> o2½ -125
                                  7:00PM 1902 Jonavin Webb <input id="editx" name="M2_9" size="4"> -255 <input id="editx" name="L2_9" size="4"> u2½ +105

                                  (Copy and paste) - I agree with this write up and thought to share -


                                  Jonavin Webb (8-1) -- a protege of Renzo Gracie -- won the CFFC Welterweight title by knocking out Dan Stittgen and defended it with a "No Contest" against Lyman Good and submission over Elijah Harshbarger. He joined UFC in May 2015 as a late-notice replacement for Andreas Stahl against Kyle Noke, ultimately losing a narrow decision to the Aussie veteran.

                                  Four of his eight wins have come by submission.


                                  Nathan Coy (14-6), representing American Top Team (ATT), went 1-1 on TUF 22, the win a clutch one in the latter stages of the season. He eventually joined UFC proper as a late replacement for Mike Graves against Danny Roberts, who tapped him with a triangle midway through the first round.


                                  "Soulforce" is over a decade older than Webb at 37.

                                  As biased as I tend to be toward overpowering wrestlers against submission artists, I no longer have any faith in Coy. The durability and submission defense just aren’t there anymore, and both traits are essential for someone with his grinding style.
                                  Webb is still improving at 26 and, in my opinion, deserved the nod over Noke. He’s just too good to leave the openings Coy will leave unexploited. "Spyder" snags something in transition while both fighters are still fresh.

                                  Prediction: Webb via first-round submission



                                  1931 Webb wins by submission <input id="editx" name="M1_204" size="4"> +320
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                                  • JIBBBY
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                                    #227
                                    ^^ I'm a pussy and played it safer because Webb does have KO power but he is a submission guy first.. Submission prop odds are fat though..

                                    $100.00 $117.00 Pending 2/21/16 7:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1909 Webb wins inside distance +117* <small>vs</small> Not Webb inside distance

                                    Bookmaker has the Webb sub prop at +325 and I just hit that for a benny also.. Couldn't resist at those odds.. See if this sticks now!!!
                                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-21-16, 02:20 PM.
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                                    • mirinquads
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                                      #228
                                      Then Riggs said he would cut his own dick off and throw it away if Conor McGregor beat Jose Aldo. He looks a bit sketchy at times which makes it hard to have faith in him.
                                      You feel like having no dick will hurt or help his chances in this fight?
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                                      • mirinquads
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                                        #229
                                        Then Riggs said he would cut his own dick off and throw it away if Conor McGregor beat Jose Aldo. He looks a bit sketchy at times which makes it hard to have faith in him.
                                        You feel like having no dick will hurt or help his chances in this fight?
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                                        • Sanity Check
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                                          #230
                                          Originally posted by mirinquads
                                          You feel like having no dick will hurt or help his chances in this fight?


                                          @ 2:53

                                          It might make his weight cut easier.
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                                          • JIBBBY
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                                            #231
                                            Originally posted by mirinquads
                                            You feel like having no dick will hurt or help his chances in this fight?
                                            Miri focusing in on the very important gambling aspects of MMA I see..

                                            Got any good prop ideas there champ that I may have over looked? I think I covered them all though for each fight already..
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                                            • slayer14
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                                              #232
                                              Jibby any good outsider bets tonight at plus money odds.
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by slayer14
                                                Jibby any good outsider bets tonight at plus money odds.
                                                A few more props I can share..

                                                I like these 3 at + odds as well as all the others I mentioned in this thread... I played all 3 for $100 each.. I think they all have a decent chance of landing anyways..

                                                Pending2/21/16 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1605 Garcia wins inside distance +329* <small>vs</small> Not Garcia inside distance

                                                Pending2/21/16 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1807 Smith wins by 3 round decision +285* <small>vs</small> Not Smith by 3 round decision

                                                Pending2/21/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1005 Oliveira wins inside distance +425* <small>vs</small> Not Oliveira inside distance

                                                Bit of a long shot with this prop but at these 5-1 odds I had to give Joe Riggs a try ITD for a benny.... Hit the Riggs sub prop at +1010 for 50 bucks also.. Hedged with the Camozzi KO prop at +360 to cover the $150 and then some....

                                                Pending 2/21/16 9:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1405 Riggs wins inside distance +499* <small>vs</small> Not Riggs inside distance
                                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-21-16, 03:43 PM.
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                                                • Thrilla
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                                                  #234
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                                                  • mirinquads
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                                                    #235
                                                    Don't sleep on Riggz
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                                                    • shabang
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                                                      #236
                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                      A few more props I can share..

                                                      I like these 3 at + odds as well as all the others I mentioned in this thread... I played all 3 for $100 each.. I think they all have a decent chance of landing anyways..

                                                      Pending2/21/16 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1605 Garcia wins inside distance +329* <small>vs</small> Not Garcia inside distance

                                                      Pending2/21/16 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1807 Smith wins by 3 round decision +285* <small>vs</small> Not Smith by 3 round decision

                                                      Pending2/21/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1005 Oliveira wins inside distance +425* <small>vs</small> Not Oliveira inside distance

                                                      Bit of a long shot with this prop but at these 5-1 odds I had to give Joe Riggs a try ITD for a benny.... Hit the Riggs sub prop at +1010 for 50 bucks also.. Hedged with the Camozzi KO prop at +360 to cover the $150 and then some....

                                                      Pending 2/21/16 9:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1405 Riggs wins inside distance +499* <small>vs</small> Not Riggs inside distance
                                                      picking opposite fighters as me..hope you lose lol
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        #237
                                                        20 minutes away... Let's get this party started!!!


                                                        First up a couple of HW cans. Gonna try the Over 1.5 at -110 for small.. Both big guys are kinda durable.. Don't really like this fight though...

                                                        UFC Fight Pass



                                                        Anthony
                                                        Hamilton
                                                        "Freight Train"
                                                        vs
                                                        Shamil
                                                        Abdurakhimov

                                                        USA
                                                        Country
                                                        RUSSIA

                                                        14-4-0
                                                        Record
                                                        15-3-0

                                                        50%
                                                        KO/TKO
                                                        47%

                                                        7%
                                                        SUB
                                                        27%

                                                        43%
                                                        DEC
                                                        27%

                                                        77 in
                                                        Height
                                                        73 in

                                                        260 lbs
                                                        Weight
                                                        235 lbs

                                                        76 in
                                                        Reach
                                                        76 in
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                                                        • TPowell
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                                                          #238
                                                          Shamil is far and away the better striker. His footwork and overall boxing is solid and his punches have some decent pop. His takedown defense isn't awful but at 235 pounds at HW, it needs to be better than what it is. I could see Hamilton potentially dragging him down from the clinch and using his size to get the mount. In short, I have no clue how this plays out so I'm staying away. My lean is to Shamil though
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                                                          • UncleChael
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                                                            #239
                                                            Anthony Hamilton wins. You're welcome.
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                                                            • JIBBBY
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                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by TPowell
                                                              Shamil is far and away the better striker. His footwork and overall boxing is solid and his punches have some decent pop. His takedown defense isn't awful but at 235 pounds at HW, it needs to be better than what it is. I could see Hamilton potentially dragging him down from the clinch and using his size to get the mount. In short, I have no clue how this plays out so I'm staying away. My lean is to Shamil though
                                                              My thoughts as well. Fight could go either way, Hamilton has the wrestling, Shamil stand up advantage.. I'm just hoping they last a round and half, clinch up and maybe some lay and pray with Hamilton perhaps early on..
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                                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                                #241
                                                                Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                                Anthony Hamilton wins. You're welcome.
                                                                GL Unc...

                                                                <small>UFC Fight Night 83 - Heavyweight 3 rounds - Consol Energy Center - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - UFC Fight Pass</small>
                                                                Sun 2/21 2201 Anthony Hamilton <input id="radiox" value="M1_12" name="radiox" type="radio">+105 <input id="radiox" value="L1_12" name="radiox" type="radio">o1½ -110
                                                                5:30PM 2202 Shamil Abdurahimov <input id="radiox" value="M2_12" name="radiox" type="radio">-125 <input id="radiox" value="L2_12" name="radiox" type="radio">u1½ -110
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                                                                • Thrilla
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                                                                  #242
                                                                  yesterday I watched a documentary about fighting school in Dagestan.

                                                                  Abdurahimov for me, just because he is from Dagestan Russia.
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                                                                  • Suggartown
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                                                                    #243
                                                                    Originally posted by Thrilla
                                                                    yesterday I watched a documentary about fighting school in Dagestan.

                                                                    Abdurahimov for me, just because he is from Dagestan Russia.
                                                                    That's a good enough reason for me!
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                                                                    • rabun
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                                                                      #244
                                                                      No play but guys from Dagestan are penetrating killers...
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                                                                      • slayer14
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                                                                        #245
                                                                        Where is the prelims stream guys
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