UFC 194: Aldo vs. McGregor (December 12, 2015)

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  • JIBBBY
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    • 12-10-09
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    #141
    I'm eye balling these props as well for value... Hmmm?

    1141 Weidman wins by TKO/KO <input id="radiox" value="M1_49" name="radiox" type="radio">+285
    1139 Weidman wins by submission <input id="radiox" value="M1_48" name="radiox" type="radio">+770
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    • Wrecked
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      #142
      Originally posted by JIBBBY
      I'm eye balling these props as well for value... Hmmm?

      1141 Weidman wins by TKO/KO <input id="radiox" value="M1_49" name="radiox" type="radio">+285
      1139 Weidman wins by submission <input id="radiox" value="M1_48" name="radiox" type="radio">+770
      I'm liking Weidman Tko and hedge with Rockhold submission
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      • UncleChael
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        #143
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        I'm eye balling these props as well for value... Hmmm?

        1141 Weidman wins by TKO/KO <input id="radiox" value="M1_49" name="radiox" type="radio">+285
        1139 Weidman wins by submission <input id="radiox" value="M1_48" name="radiox" type="radio">+770
        Luke Rockhold wins. I'm sorry, Jibbs.
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        • eligibletackle
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          • 12-20-11
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          #144
          Maia will hop on Nelson like a ring-tailed lemur and thoroughly outclass him. Nelson obv stands a chance to win like any fighter does but his most decisive paths to victory are flash ko, stunning strike>sub, and whacky decision - all apparently highly unlikely. It's weird betting against the guy w/ ice water in his veins like Nelson but c'mon here - Maia is the tackle-eligible play
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          • plekz
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            #145
            Originally posted by JIBBBY
            Romero does have the better chin of the 2 if I had to guess, but Souza is more skilled and well rounded for sure. Souza is better on the ground and probably a better technical striker.. Both athletic freaks..
            hwat? romero was dead after getting clipped by kennedy, souza has been ko'd once, after he litteraly dove right into an upkick from mousasi and that upkick would have damn near killed anyone.
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            • Unwritten Law
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              #146
              The highly controversial fight vs Kennedy could've/should've/would've easily counted as a loss when he got rocked....failing to get off the stool. We all know what happened. I hope it doesn't turn out into a dance fest like the shady Gonzaga/Erokhin fight. They seem to show each other a lot of hespect.
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              • PaperTrail07
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                #147
                Souza is the play. Don't get confused twice the skill and experience
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                • Kermit
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                  Souza is the play. Don't get confused twice the skill and experience
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                  • plekz
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Unwritten Law
                    The highly controversial fight vs Kennedy could've/should've/would've easily counted as a loss when he got rocked....failing to get off the stool. We all know what happened. I hope it doesn't turn out into a dance fest like the shady Gonzaga/Erokhin fight. They seem to show each other a lot of hespect.
                    i think the chance is somewhat high that the entire first round becomes a feeling out process, due to the stakes and that both of them are very aware of the others strengths and the fact that they both have serious power.
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                    • JIBBBY
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                      • 12-10-09
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                      #150
                      Going BIG on Maia, Souza, Weidman and Aldo!!!!! Love Max Holloway to win also and gonna parlay his ass up...

                      Alot of buzz in the news and around town with this event going down tonight!!! I might just order PPV this go around.. That would be a first in years.. Streams might get jammed up with internet traffic..
                      Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-12-15, 12:06 PM.
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                      • JIBBBY
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                        #151
                        Does anyone think Frankie Saenz has a chance against Uriah Faber? These odds are stacked and I'm not convinced Faber is gonna clean him.. After all Frankie is on a 7 fight win streak and has improved since his last lost in 2012.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Frankie-Saenz-55410

                        <small>UFC 194 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - FS1</small>
                        Sat 12/12 1501 Urijah Faber <input id="editx" name="M1_5" size="4"> -650 <input id="editx" name="L1_5" size="4"> o2½ -135
                        9:30PM 1502 Frankie Saenz <input id="editx" name="M2_5" size="4"> +475 <input id="editx" name="L2_5" size="4"> u2½ +115

                        Faber just 2-2 in last 4 fights. He's 36 years old now and I'm just not sure about playing him..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Urijah-Faber-8847
                        Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-12-15, 12:07 PM.
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                        • JIBBBY
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                          #152
                          I think the fight not going the distance is a lock.. McGregor tries to finish all his fights in a hurry, and Aldo is on mission going into this one.. Too much bad blood between both fighters so I HIGHLY doubt this goes 5 long rounds.

                          1004 Fight won’t go 5 round distance <input id="editx" name="M2_0" size="4"> -215
                          Last edited by JIBBBY; 12-12-15, 01:42 PM.
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                          • JoshKnows46
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                            #153
                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                            I think the fight not going the distance is a lock.. McGregor tries to finish all his fights in a hurry, and Aldo is on mission going into this one.. Too much bad blood between both fighters so I HIGHLY doubt this goes 5 long rounds.

                            1004 Fight won’t go 5 round distance <input id="editx" name="M2_0" size="4"> -215
                            Much better value in mcgregor by ko jibby, aldo never takes the fight to the ground, even when he's hurt, he fires back punches, no way aldo last longer then 3 in a mcgregor ring. 15 months off, ring rust, huge cardio disadvantage, as aldo is more of a point fighter, and fights in burst, takes rounds off, is very open to body kicks, talks of retirem3nt, Connors constant pressire, southpaw, big reach, get this easy money jibby, you know aldos going to sleep here bud. Don't miss out.
                            Last edited by JoshKnows46; 12-12-15, 02:14 PM.
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                            • JIBBBY
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                              #154
                              Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                              Much better value in mcgregor by ko jibby, aldo never takes the fight to the ground, even when he's hurt, he fires back punches, no way aldo last longer then 3 in a mcgregor ring. 15 months off, ring rust, huge cardio disadvantage, as aldo is more of a point fighter, and fights in burst, takes rounds off, is very open to body kicks, talks of retirem3nt, Connors constant pressire, southpaw, big reach, get this easy money jibby, you know aldos going to sleep here bud. Don't miss out.
                              I agree Aldo typically doesn't take his fights to the ground but with the glaring weakness of McGregors ground game I have a gut feeling that is all about to change.. Especially after we saw McGregor get man handled on the ground against Mendes.. I could be wrong though..

                              Your McGregor By KO prop...

                              1041 McGregor wins by TKO/KO <input id="editx" name="M1_19" size="4"> +166
                              If I'm not mistaken McGregor also predicted he was gonna win in round 2.. So if you are on McGregor this is something to consider also..

                              1027 McGregor wins in round 2 <input id="editx" name="M1_12" size="4"> +600
                              I'm on Aldo myself though Josh...
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                              • JoshKnows46
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                                #155
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                I agree Aldo typically doesn't take his fights to the ground but with the glaring weakness of McGregors ground game I have a gut feeling that is all about to change.. Especially after we saw McGregor get man handled on the ground against Mendes.. I could be wrong though..

                                Your McGregor By KO prop...

                                1041 McGregor wins by TKO/KO <input id="editx" name="M1_19" size="4"> +166
                                If I'm not mistaken McGregor also predicted he was gonna win in round 2.. So if you are on McGregor this is something to consider also..

                                1027 McGregor wins in round 2 <input id="editx" name="M1_12" size="4"> +600
                                I'm on Aldo myself though Josh...

                                I seriously doubt aldo is gonna change who he is, even so, every round starts on the feet, and mcgregor is good at scrambling up, and when its on the feet, aldos at a massive disadvatage. youll be saying aldo had a bad gameplan at the end of the fight.
                                Last edited by JoshKnows46; 12-12-15, 02:59 PM.
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                                • JoshKnows46
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                                  #156
                                  not on the 2nd round prop, but i'm on the ko prop, I'm predicting its finished in the first 2 minutes of the 3rd round, probable throw 20-50 bucks on 3rd round finish.
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                                  • blazes_bff
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                                    #157
                                    I seen mcgregor say he's gonna win within 4 minutes. I got him in 2 wagers. He's long and unorthodox and has incredible timing. Hopefully his knee can hold up. Aldo is the top p4p, but he's had a pretty long layoff.

                                    Big on Rockhold. Weidman won $ for me twice against the spider. But I'm thinking Luke is too agile and quick for the slower weidman. The All American definitely has power though, but I see him as somewhat slow and plodding. Luke gotta stay off his back cause weidman has some powerful GnP.

                                    Small on jacare just for action. He's more well rounded and has the experience. Both guys are athletic feaks.
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                                    • Killer_Demo
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                                      #158
                                      Im already drinking and smoking
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                                      • fitguy67
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                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by JoshKnows46

                                        aldo never takes the fight to the ground, even when he's hurt, he fires back punches
                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY

                                        I agree Aldo typically doesn't take his fights to the ground but with the glaring weakness of McGregors ground game I have a gut feeling that is all about to change.. Especially after we saw McGregor get man handled on the ground against Mendes...
                                        one of the big "fight in a nutshell" questions here...

                                        good thing that this isn't a case-study assignment that gets graded by a committee of experts...they gonna play the game and we get to see one of (of many possible) ways this plays out...

                                        personally, i'm banking on Aldo being the calculating SOB he always is...able to overcome his usual preference for standing in order to maximize his chances of hangin' a painful L on who he sees as an unnecessarily-disrespectful opponent...Aldo hates losing & tarnishing his legacy more than anything (which is why he pulls out of fights where an injury compromises his chances more than a tolerably-small amount)...won't get goaded into a show of vertical bravado if pulling the fight into horizontal territory tips scale considerably in his favor...
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                                        • fitguy67
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                                          #160
                                          guyz...you gotta click this link...



                                          someone should really capture the whole comic layout properly (i can't cuz i'm a web-dolt) and start a new thread to get more views...the cartoonist is obviously an "eyes wide open" (ie. eyes constantly rolling at UFC as a company primarlily in the marketing business)
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                                          • JIBBBY
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                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                                            Im already drinking and smoking
                                            You'll be burnt and crashed out by the time this event starts.. Good luck with that Killa...
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                                            • TPowell
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                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                              You'll be burnt and crashed out by the time this event starts.. Good luck with that Killa...
                                              yep, not hitting the sports bar until around 7:30 central. Driving though, so no pregaming before
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by fitguy67
                                                one of the big "fight in a nutshell" questions here...

                                                good thing that this isn't a case-study assignment that gets graded by a committee of experts...they gonna play the game and we get to see one of (of many possible) ways this plays out...

                                                personally, i'm banking on Aldo being the calculating SOB he always is...able to overcome his usual preference for standing in order to maximize his chances of hangin' a painful L on who he sees as an unnecessarily-disrespectful opponent...Aldo hates losing & tarnishing his legacy more than anything (which is why he pulls out of fights where an injury compromises his chances more than a tolerably-small amount)...won't get goaded into a show of vertical bravado if pulling the fight into horizontal territory tips scale considerably in his favor...
                                                Maybe, but this fight has Aldo's juices flowing like no others in the past.. Aldo may be more aggressive then what we've seen.. He is a calculated and cautious focker though, his self important legacy has taken top priority in the past..
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                                                • KingHawkins
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                                                  #164
                                                  If anyone has Fury's picks for tonight, feel free to PM them to me. I would be incredibly appreciative.
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                                                  • fitguy67
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                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                    Maybe, but this fight has Aldo's juices flowing like no others in the past.. Aldo may be more aggressive then what we've seen.. He is a calculated and cautious focker though, his self important legacy has taken top priority in the past..
                                                    the guy constantly claiming he's in the other guy's head...often indicates the obverse...

                                                    last night rattled McFukface
                                                    1)cross-cultural (uh va morrer) curse thrown bak at him in force, by those pronouncing it properly...all the dehydrated bundle of nerve-endings could do was flip a feeble irish bird

                                                    2)Frankie one-upping his signature-W (he's been hearing little Frankie's footsteps since ME last night)
                                                    _____________

                                                    Jose in contrast looked relaxed and playful as he mocked the PeeWeeHerman stance taken a day earlier by McDolt at the scheduled staredown...

                                                    the weigh-in looked like a calm comfortable underwear model standing opposite a meth-head escaped from a nearby clinic
                                                    __________

                                                    aldo'll fight smart...Conor the more likely to have his emotions interfere with his game
                                                    Last edited by fitguy67; 12-12-15, 04:46 PM.
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                                                    • JoshKnows46
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                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by blazes_bff
                                                      I seen mcgregor say he's gonna win within 4 minutes. I got him in 2 wagers. He's long and unorthodox and has incredible timing. Hopefully his knee can hold up. Aldo is the top p4p, but he's had a pretty long layoff.

                                                      Big on Rockhold. Weidman won $ for me twice against the spider. But I'm thinking Luke is too agile and quick for the slower weidman. The All American definitely has power though, but I see him as somewhat slow and plodding. Luke gotta stay off his back cause weidman has some powerful GnP.

                                                      Small on jacare just for action. He's more well rounded and has the experience. Both guys are athletic feaks.
                                                      Smart man here, those are 3 winners, no play on jacare for me as that fight is a toss up, true even match, but if I had to play it, I would bet on the more experience jacare. McGregor and Luke will be absolute dominations, many people will be surprise by this, but not I.
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by fitguy67
                                                        the weigh-in looked like a calm comfortable underwear model standing opposite a meth-head escaped from a nearby clinic
                                                        Lol'ing at this comment..
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                                                        • fitguy67
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                                                          #168
                                                          all we need now is one of the posse-insiders to attack us for insensitive Addictism, lol
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                                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                            #169
                                                            rockhold and Aldo to the bank
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                                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                              #170
                                                              not a good sign the public's on aldo.

                                                              if aldo gets to -150. time to take conor.
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                                                              • fitguy67
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                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                rockhold and Aldo to the bank
                                                                yes...

                                                                not THAT long ago (on Nov30), i got these three "dogs" as straight-ups and fully round-robin'd as well (3 doubles +1 treble)...just in case the stars align just right

                                                                Aldo +144
                                                                Rockhold +155,
                                                                Romero +155
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                                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                                  #172
                                                                  Rockhold is running his mouth too much and IMO is talking himself up because he is unsure in this fight.. Weidman the calm undefeated champ is brushing off Luke's comments.. When the fight starts he is gonna walk down Luke and bust him up in this fight..

                                                                  People are saying Weidman is slower and flat footed.. Well he busted up one of the best MMA strikers in Anderson Silva standing twice.. He's never been punked standing..


                                                                  Keeping it simple - Weidman hits harder and has the better chin.. Probably tougher as well.. Weidman is the better wrestler with better submissions.. He is the all around better fighter in every area..

                                                                  The O won't go... Weidman remains the champ... Luke goes back to the drawing board..
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                                                                  • TPowell
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                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                    Rockhold is running his mouth too much and IMO is talking himself up because he is unsure in this fight.. Weidman the calm undefeated champ is brushing off Luke's comments.. When the fight starts he is gonna walk down Luke and bust him up in this fight..

                                                                    People are saying Weidman is slower and flat footed.. Well he busted up one of the best MMA strikers in Anderson Silva standing twice.. He's never been punked standing..


                                                                    Keeping it simple - Weidman hits harder and has the better chin.. Probably tougher as well.. Weidman is the better wrestler with better submissions.. He is the all around better fighter in every area..

                                                                    The O won't go... Weidman remains the champ... Luke goes back to the drawing board..

                                                                    yep, a lot of talk from Luke and he does match up well because he's so well rounded, but is he really a better striker or wrestler than Weidman? Throw subs out the window because if Luke ends up on his back then Chris will tee the eff off on him and it won't matter
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                                                                    • Killer_Demo
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                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                      You'll be burnt and crashed out by the time this event starts.. Good luck with that Killa...
                                                                      Nah im good. Im so pumped for tonight!!!
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                                                                      • JoshKnows46
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                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                        Rockhold is running his mouth too much and IMO is talking himself up because he is unsure in this fight.. Weidman the calm undefeated champ is brushing off Luke's comments.. When the fight starts he is gonna walk down Luke and bust him up in this fight..

                                                                        People are saying Weidman is slower and flat footed.. Well he busted up one of the best MMA strikers in Anderson Silva standing twice.. He's never been punked standing..


                                                                        Keeping it simple - Weidman hits harder and has the better chin.. Probably tougher as well.. Weidman is the better wrestler with better submissions.. He is the all around better fighter in every area..

                                                                        The O won't go... Weidman remains the champ... Luke goes back to the drawing board..
                                                                        Just wrong wrong wrong, Rockhold is better on the ground and standing, it's insane to say weidman is the better fighter in every area, how can u say that? Rockhold is better in every area...Rockhold has better subs, bigger stronger guy, great scrambles, more technical stiker, quicker, better footwork, weidman doesn't utilize kicks and knees like rockhold, only advantage weidman has is his toughness, which will only allow him to take a longer beating..
                                                                        Last edited by JoshKnows46; 12-12-15, 05:20 PM.
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