UFC Fight Night: Henderson vs. Alves (November 28, 2015)

[JIBBBY]

Yep Spurg live betting and live viewing is gonna to be a tough go with this event..

I do like betting against no name Korean and Asian fighters though regardless.. It's gift from the MMA gambling Gods me tinks!!!!

[spurginobili]

Yeah, could be Jibby...maybe a pattern will emerge.

[JIBBBY]

Well not such a huge height difference with Sammy Sicillia after all.. Weigh in pics side to side slide show in this link below.. There are some much taller Asians though in other bout match ups.. A little surprised to see that... Hope that doesn't put a dent in my Asian fade theory...

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/11/ufc-fight-night-79-weigh-in-photos-breaking-in-a-new-market-in-south-korea#slideIdslide-28

[JIBBBY]

Jake Collier sure has size and height advantage over Yang.. Yang has some UFC experience though and can knock your head off... I would have loaded up on this fight if it wasn't Yang Jake was fighting.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dongi-Yang-23501

Still bet Jake though and thinking he comes out on top with maybe a sub win...

I'm really thinking this fight doesn't go the distance or the under 2.5 at +115 in this scrap though.. Gotta try that bet.. Both these guys are finishers..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jake-Collier-83599

<small>UFC Fight Night 79 - Middleweight 3 rounds - Olympic Gymnastics Arena - Seoul, South Korea - UFC Fight Pass </small>
Sat 11/28		1401 Jake Collier		<input id="radiox" value="M1_4" name="radiox" type="radio">-130	<input id="radiox" value="L1_4" name="radiox" type="radio">o2½ -135
7:45AM		1402 Dongi Yang		<input id="radiox" value="M2_4" name="radiox" type="radio">+110	<input id="radiox" value="L2_4" name="radiox" type="radio">u2½ +115

[TPowell]

here's my card. Done for the night

Akiyama (-165)
Dong Hyun Kim (+100) over Steele (flier from a reputable guy)
Collier (-130)
Casey (-150)
Serrano (-170)
De La Torre/Nam NOT going distance (-120)
Waters/Hyun Kim NOT going distance (-120)

[Thrilla]

Dongi Yang "The Ox" has 12-3-0 record 0 % of his fights ended by decision.
His oponent
Jake Collier "The Prototype" has 9-2-0 record and only 22 % by decision.

based on these stats under 2.5 rounds could be value @ +115

[TPowell]

Dongi Yang "The Ox" has 12-3-0 record 0 % of his fights ended by decision.
His oponent
Jake Collier "The Prototype" has 9-2-0 record and only 22 % by decision.

based on these stats under 2.5 rounds could be value @ +115

tough to use those with guys that have fought competition like most of the fighters on these cards

[JIBBBY]

Dongi Yang "The Ox" has 12-3-0 record 0 % of his fights ended by decision.
His oponent
Jake Collier "The Prototype" has 9-2-0 record and only 22 % by decision.

based on these stats under 2.5 rounds could be value @ +115

That is what I posted above in post #39.. Yes value in that +115 under.. Not sure what the odd makers were thinking in setting that line?

I didn't want to get greedy so I took fight ends ITD myself at -115...

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Jake Collier vs Dongi Yang
No (Fight does not go the distance) 0.0 (-115) Nov 28, 2015 7:30 AM

[TPowell]

That is what I posted above in post #39.. Yes value in that +115 under.. Not sure what the odd makers were thinking in setting that line?

Collier could easily pick Yang apart from range (he has a 7 inch reach advantage) and his only real fight in the UFC went to the cards (was knocked out on short notice in debut). Three of Yang's four fights in his first UFC stint went to the cards as well. Collier should be able to have his way with Yang everywhere. He just has to be on the look out for that nasty right hand of Yang's.

[Thrilla]

@ Jibby

Yeah I did not see your post. lol. got excited and just wanted to share these numbers asap. But nice to see now you agree. What is the real odd according to you, how much value?

[JIBBBY]

Collier could easily pick Yang apart from range (he has a 7 inch reach advantage) and his only real fight in the UFC went to the cards (was knocked out on short notice in debut). Three of Yang's four fights in his first UFC stint went to the cards as well. Collier should be able to have his way with Yang everywhere. He just has to be on the look out for that nasty right hand of Yang's.

That's why I bet Jake Collier to win straight also.. I'm thinking Jake finishes Yang to be honest.. Couldn't pull the trigger on any of the KO or Sub win props though for this fight..

I highly doubt Yang can make it 3 rounds if the taller Jake is peppering up for 3 rounds standing anyways.. I think one of these guys are getting dropped..


TPowell I do like your Waters/Stun Gun Kim "not going the distance" bet at -120.. I went with the standard under 2.5 at +125 myself.

[TPowell]

That's why I bet Jake Collier to win straight also.. I'm thinking Jake finishes Yang to be honest.. Couldn't pull the trigger on any of the KO or Sub win props though for this fight..

I highly doubt Yang can make it 3 rounds if the taller Jake is peppering up for 3 rounds standing anyways.. I think one of these guys are getting dropped..


TPowell I do like your Waters/Stun Gun Kim "not going the distance" bet at -120.. I went with the standard under 2.5 at +125 myself.

wish I had those plays as options. My prop bets are very limited on most fights, especially the prelims. I just think the only way Waters can win is the KO punch and its certainly possible with the aging and very wild striking Kim, but the more likely result is Stun Gun sticks to his roots like the Burkman fight and tries hard for the sub win against a guy who just isn't UFC quality more than likely. I'm not saying he's a submission artist by any means, but this is a very favorable matchup, probably his easiest fight in the UFC to date. Kim learned a lot after that brutal TKO loss to Woodley. He can't stand and bang with good competition and needs to stick to his ground fighting roots. I think wherever the fight goes, this finishes early. The only way it doesn't is if Kim is content to just lay and pray

[JIBBBY]

wish I had those plays as options. My prop bets are very limited on most fights, especially the prelims. I just think the only way Waters can win is the KO punch and its certainly possible with the aging and very wild striking Kim, but the more likely result is Stun Gun sticks to his roots like the Burkman fight and tries hard for the sub win against a guy who just isn't UFC quality more than likely. I'm not saying he's a submission artist by any means, but this is a very favorable matchup, probably his easiest fight in the UFC to date. Kim learned a lot after that brutal TKO loss to Woodley. He can't stand and bang with good competition and needs to stick to his ground fighting roots. I think wherever the fight goes, this finishes early. The only way it doesn't is if Kim is content to just lay and pray

Ya think? 5dimes.. Sign on man..

1129 Waters wins by TKO/KO

<input id="editx" name="M1_43" size="4"> +1250

[TPowell]

Ya think? 5dimes.. Sign on man..

1129 Waters wins by TKO/KO

<input id="editx" name="M1_43" size="4"> +1250

I'm spoiled. I like dealing with people I can talk to. I think Waters could possibly drop Kim, but I'm not sure how likely it is. Kim has been wild and crazy in the past like the Woodley loss after he KO'd a couple guys and got a big head. I would think about that as a hedge play though

[JIBBBY]

I'm spoiled. I like dealing with people I can talk to. I think Waters could possibly drop Kim, but I'm not sure how likely it is. Kim has been wild and crazy in the past like the Woodley loss after he KO'd a couple guys and got a big head. I would think about that as a hedge play though

Not very likely.. Waters only has 3 Ko's in 12 fights. Those 3 KO's came against bums early on in his MMA career in no name MMA venues.. His last 9 fights all decision or losses.. One fight in UFC and one loss.. This guy was laughing and looking like a goof at weigh ins too..

I think Waters is a can and gets dropped myself but we'll see???. He has been kinda durable against bums..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dominic-Waters-68971

1133 Hyun Kim wins by TKO/KO

<input id="editx" name="M1_45" size="4"> +240

[JIBBBY]

Stun Gun fighting in Korea is what I'm thinking about in this Waters fight.. Stun Gun has some solid KO finishes in his recent UFC fights.. Instead of paying -725 to play him straight or in parlay I'll try him by KO for +240..

He laid out Erick Silva which is hard to do recently - http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dong-Hyun-Kim-16374




This fight could very well go the distance though but I'm leaning towards the Korean born Stun Gun by KO fighting in Korea..


This is the win by decision prop anyways. +odds too..

1111 Hyun Kim wins by 3 round decision

<input id="editx" name="M1_34" size="4"> +113

[TPowell]

Waters has gotten through a lot of his fights by being a good sized guy who has decent take downs and subs to some extent. His head movement isn't much, but neither is his takedown defense. Sadly, this ending will be entirely based on what Kim wants to do. Part of me says he may do the prudent thing and try to get a cautious sub win, but the other part says he senses how big a matchup this is and decides to land a bomb that puts Waters out early. It'll be interesting to see what he does because he can EASILY win this fight on the ground

[Sanity Check]

Big, big, line movement on Leo Kuntz.

Jake Collier is a high school amateur wrestling champion. Dongi Yang has black belts in judo and tae kwon do.

Haven't found footage of Dongi Yang fighting since 2013. How much has he improved in the last 2 years?

Yui Chul Nam, I think he's a lock.

Tae Hyun Bang went from being a big favorite to a massive underdog so quickly. Wonder if something happened to him.

[Sanity Check]

Yep Spurg live betting and live viewing is gonna to be a tough go with this event..

I do like betting against no name Korean and Asian fighters though regardless.. It's gift from the MMA gambling Gods me tinks!!!!

Check your bunghole, bro.

I have a feeling asians are gonna bring it tonite.

We got the korean bulldozer & the korean superboy just needed the korean zombie to fill things out.

Nah. We will have to see, a lot of UFC fighters lose when they fight in their home country. No reason to think korea will be any different. lol

[JIBBBY]

^^If it's a Asian win night I'm screwed.. Here we go!!!.. Steele for the win in the first fight I say!!!

Always bet on Black....

Half asleep over here..

[mohye1980]

I agree on Casey as well..

Threw her in a 2 teamer with Fredy myself...

2 Team Parlay #625750189

UFC/MMA - Fight Winner
Cortney Casey vs Seo Hee Ham
Cortney Casey 0.0 (-170) Nov 28, 2015 6:00 AM

UFC/MMA - Fight Winner
Fredy Serrano vs Yao Zhikui
Fredy Serrano 0.0 (-200) Nov 28, 2015 5:30 AM



$100.00

$138.20

Good luck to us.

[JIBBBY]

Now that is a good start!!!. Dominique Steele with the finish slam!!! Next.. One Asian down...

[JIBBBY]

They got Kenny Florian to fly out ring side in Korea.. Lol... Long trip from the LA studio...

[thetitanlb]

Wow great slam. Thats the first time i have seen a slam KO in a while.

[JIBBBY]

Beltran for small in this next one. Not super confident... +160 had to try it...

[Sanity Check]

Good call, Jibby.

Seo Hee Ham should be fighting at atomweight.

It will be sad if Cortney Casey loses that 1.

I got small on Beltran, 2.

[thetitanlb]

Ning light in this next fight.

[rabun]

I'll side with Ham and Ning...

[mohye1980]

Did Dominic waters ko Asian dude? Is that right?

[thetitanlb]

Beltran is too wild of a striker. Ning is way more technical IMO

[thetitanlb]

Did Dominic waters ko Asian dude? Is that right?

Yup KO slam

[Sanity Check]

Guangyou fighting out of a city as polluted as Beijing could be hard on his cardio.

If it turns into cardio warz I don't think he'll come out on top.

[thetitanlb]

Jesus what a stinker of a first round.

[mohye1980]

One down buddy one more to go

[JIBBBY]

That works!! That could have been judged either way I thought.. Mexican Beltran kinda sucked and that was a gift...

$68.20

$109.10

Pending

11/28/15 5:30am UFC Fighting 1901 Marco Beltran +160* <small>vs</small> Ning Guangyou