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  • JC2008
    SBR MVP
    • 02-27-08
    • 2258

    #36
    Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
    cotto beat the shit out of the at the time number 1 middleweight, sergio martinez. don't sell him short as a bum. i think canelo has too much going for him here. if cotto doesn't stop canelo or win 9 out of 12 rounds decisively he will not get the win. behind the scenes people want a canelo win and a canelo vs glolovkin matchup by 2017. cotto will not fight ggg.
    He beat a Sergio Martinez who only had one functional knee and couldn't spar in camp because of it. If you saw the fight you saw Sergio could hardly move in the first round. Nobody is saying he is a bum but his career has been resurrected with careful matchmaking against Rodriguez and Daniel Geale (whom GGG smashed prior). Cotto got stripped of the WBC title two days ago as well so the title is only on the line for Alvarez to win. I think a nice hedge with Cotto decision +475 (he's not knocking Canelo out) and a sprinkle on the draw is wise. I would LIVE bet Canelo after a few early rounds as Cotto should win a couple so you may be able to get a better number on Alvarez.
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    • Grits n' Gravy
      Restricted User
      • 06-10-10
      • 13024

      #37
      yes martinez was hobbled but he could have postponed fight.

      i really like both fighters and i will likely make a few bets at mb just before main event starts. right now i'm thinking of placing bets on the over and canelo inside the distance and if cotto stops canelo i lose both.
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      • JC2008
        SBR MVP
        • 02-27-08
        • 2258

        #38
        I'm pretty sure it will go to the cards. Sprinkling on Alvarez in round 10, 11 and 12 is +2000 a piece. Of course there is round group betting to consider as well.
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        • trobin31
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-09-14
          • 9854

          #39
          Tale of tape

          Cotto 153 lbs Ht 5'7" reach 67" age 35

          Alvarez 155 lbs Ht 5'9" reach 71" age 25
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          • Indeep
            SBR Sharp
            • 05-08-14
            • 453

            #40
            Originally posted by JC2008
            I'm pretty sure it will go to the cards. Sprinkling on Alvarez in round 10, 11 and 12 is +2000 a piece. Of course there is round group betting to consider as well.
            I've never tried sprinkling on a round by round basis, but I like this advice especially at these odds. I also like the advice of live betting this to try to get a better line on Alvarez. I don't like the value at -300, even though I believe he will win. Hopefully can grab a better line as you said if he starts out slow and gives a few early rounds away.
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            • Grits n' Gravy
              Restricted User
              • 06-10-10
              • 13024

              #41
              ok so to get + money on both plays i will bet the under 11.5 and canelo by dec. barring a cotto decision or draw i can make a little coin while sitting ringside.
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              • terrortwylight
                SBR MVP
                • 11-04-09
                • 3032

                #42
                Originally posted by trobin31
                Tale of tape

                Cotto 153 lbs Ht 5'7" reach 67" age 35

                Alvarez 155 lbs Ht 5'9" reach 71" age 25
                Still taking Canelo tonight?
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                • trobin31
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-09-14
                  • 9854

                  #43
                  Originally posted by terrortwylight
                  Still taking Canelo tonight?
                  I Like Canelo on any decision
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                  • Git Lo
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-20-11
                    • 3785

                    #44
                    Canelo
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                    • JC2008
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-27-08
                      • 2258

                      #45
                      Next up this weekend. Klitschko over Fury. Wladimir is traditionally more aggressive against bigger opponents but Fury is quite durable so I won't be taking a decision or a KO/TKO/DQ. Same theory applies, Fury may win an early round or 2 but it is not something I am counting on, especially in Germany. I see the line has moved from -450 to -500. There is probably some value in Klitschko decision +175.
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                      • DrUppercut
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 08-01-15
                        • 92

                        #46
                        After taking the Cotto #L i'm going to try and bounce back with Klitschko by KO at -110…We'll see how it goes
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                        • mirinquads
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-22-13
                          • 3927

                          #47
                          Originally posted by trobin31
                          What value when they lose? I put all fights at 90%. Just watch and learn
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                          • getlucky2win
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-14-12
                            • 1120

                            #48
                            Originally posted by getlucky2win
                            i would be happy to take your action

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                            • JIBBBY
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-10-09
                              • 83686

                              #49
                              Now that was a fun boxing match. Anyone watch that on Showtime? NO boxing thread so I bumped this..

                              Cancer surviver gets the early KO.. If there was a thread on this Showtime boxing i would have posted this earlier..

                              [Ticket #: 2368951232] STRAIGHT BET
                              12/05/2015 @ 07:30 PM MU [24701] DANIEL JACOBS +145
                              (DANIEL JACOBS vrs PETER QUILLIN)
                              100.00 145.00
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                              • Nick Papageorgio
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-07-12
                                • 2396

                                #50
                                Jibby it is a nice story, not really fun though. Fight had a ton of potential to be a great barn burner of a war, instead we get the quick flash KO. Hope they rematch but not sure they will as this fight failed to generate much hype outside of the New York area. Just my thoughts, some of it could be bias as I lost about 1.8 units on it.
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                                • Indeep
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 05-08-14
                                  • 453

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Nick Papageorgio
                                  Jibby it is a nice story, not really fun though. Fight had a ton of potential to be a great barn burner of a war, instead we get the quick flash KO. Hope they rematch but not sure they will as this fight failed to generate much hype outside of the New York area. Just my thoughts, some of it could be bias as I lost about 1.8 units on it.
                                  I got crushed on betting Kid Chocolate big on this one. I really thought he would be to much for Jacobs, but he got caught and that was that. I wonder if there will be a rematch also. There really wasn't much buzz nationally as you said, and I would think it would be hard to sell tix in New York after people didn't get much for there money the first fight.
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                                  • mirinquads
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-22-13
                                    • 3927

                                    #52
                                    You couldve just bet fight ITD if you wanted Quillen, no chance he was going to win a decision there, with his inactivity and tendency to slow down in there.. Was like -130, or the under 9½ was +125 if not better
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                                    • Indeep
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 05-08-14
                                      • 453

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by mirinquads
                                      You couldve just bet fight ITD if you wanted Quillen, no chance he was going to win a decision there, with his inactivity and tendency to slow down in there.. Was like -130, or the under 9½ was +125 if not better
                                      Quillin won decisions against N'Dam(UD) and Lee(SD) in the exact same building.
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                                      • mirinquads
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-22-13
                                        • 3927

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Indeep
                                        Quillin won decisions against N'Dam(UD) and Lee(SD) in the exact same building.
                                        But was he fighting N'dam or Lee in this fight?
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                                        • mirinquads
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-22-13
                                          • 3927

                                          #55
                                          and Lee was a draw.
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                                          • Indeep
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 05-08-14
                                            • 453

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by mirinquads
                                            and Lee was a draw.
                                            You are correct. It was a draw, I looked down to far on boxrec. Time for some glasses.
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                                            • Indeep
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 05-08-14
                                              • 453

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by mirinquads
                                              and Lee was a draw.
                                              Thoughts on Andy Lee vs Billy Joe Saunders? I've seen Lee fight a ton, but know nothing about Saunders. Its priced as a 50/50 fight at the moment.
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                                              • mirinquads
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-22-13
                                                • 3927

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Indeep
                                                Thoughts on Andy Lee vs Billy Joe Saunders? I've seen Lee fight a ton, but know nothing about Saunders. Its priced as a 50/50 fight at the moment.
                                                Saunders is the much better boxer with much better output. But Lee can throw some ungodly power. Will watch line and post play later
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                                                • Indeep
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 05-08-14
                                                  • 453

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                  Saunders is the much better boxer with much better output. But Lee can throw some ungodly power. Will watch line and post play later
                                                  Thanks, I appreciate your input on this matchup.

                                                  Lee is fun to watch fight because he can look so horrible for most of the fight, and then completely change things with that power.
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                                                  • mirinquads
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-22-13
                                                    • 3927

                                                    #60
                                                    Yep.. Saunders is quite defensively responsible, always keeps his base, control in the clinch. Won't follow Lee around and walk into a right hook like most of his KO victims does. Totally shut down Christ Eubanks inside game aswell, which is quite impressive.
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                                                    • Indeep
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 05-08-14
                                                      • 453

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                      Yep.. Saunders is quite defensively responsible, always keeps his base, control in the clinch. Won't follow Lee around and walk into a right hook like most of his KO victims does. Totally shut down Christ Eubanks inside game aswell, which is quite impressive.
                                                      I'll have to youtube some Saunders fights and take a look at him. Sounds like he might be to sound for Lee's limited game.
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                                                      • Indeep
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 05-08-14
                                                        • 453

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                        Saunders is the much better boxer with much better output. But Lee can throw some ungodly power. Will watch line and post play later
                                                        Fight time boss. Who ya got?
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                                                        • mirinquads
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-22-13
                                                          • 3927

                                                          #63
                                                          Saunders +110 and -110, and by decision.. One could also hit Lee ITD if that's what youre feeling
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                                                          • Indeep
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 05-08-14
                                                            • 453

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                            Saunders +110 and -110, and by decision.. One could also hit Lee ITD if that's what youre feeling
                                                            Much thanks for the input. Probably sprinkle a little on Lee by KO just for the heck of it, but it sounds like he's going to get a boxing lesson from Saunders. Looking forward to a fun fight.
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                                                            • The HOFF
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-02-08
                                                              • 4847

                                                              #65
                                                              I like Saunders tonight and am loving some of the dogs. Jennings +120, Rosado +160, and a tiny shot on Sosa +925.
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                                                              • mirinquads
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-22-13
                                                                • 3927

                                                                #66
                                                                Jennings +190 and jennings ITD +700.

                                                                Rosado loses tho
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                                                                • KingHawkins
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-18-13
                                                                  • 1311

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Mirinquads, how do you feel about Vyacheslav Shabranskyy at +150ish vs. Yunieski Gonzalez tonight? Is there massive value there or should I just stay away?
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                                                                  • mirinquads
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 04-22-13
                                                                    • 3927

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Depends on if you believe in the Shrabanskyy hype. I thought Gonzales won a clear decision over Pascal in his last fight, which is extremely impressive to me. He's a big strong bruiser, good inside game. Shrabran got knocked down by a bum a couple of times in his last fight.

                                                                    Personally am on Gonzales -140
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                                                                    • KingHawkins
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-18-13
                                                                      • 1311

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                                      Depends on if you believe in the Shrabanskyy hype. I thought Gonzales won a clear decision over Pascal in his last fight, which is extremely impressive to me. He's a big strong bruiser, good inside game. Shrabran got knocked down by a bum a couple of times in his last fight.

                                                                      Personally am on Gonzales -140
                                                                      Thanks very much for the reply. Good info, I appreciate it. Best of luck. I'm tailing you on Saunders pretty big. Hoping he comes through here
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                                                                      • KingHawkins
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 04-18-13
                                                                        • 1311

                                                                        #70
                                                                        oooooooohhhhh HUGE 3RD thought he was gonna get it right there!!!!!!!!!!
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