UFC 191: Johnson vs. Dodson 2 (Spetember 05, 2015)

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  • JIBBBY
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    • 12-10-09
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    #36
    Just because Fransisco Rivera looked good in knocking out the taller goofy can in Bruce "El Roy" Leroy, don't think it's gonna be the same story against the much different fighter in John Lineker.. We'll see though???.. My money is on the veteran in Johnny boy..

    Rivera got smoked by Uriah Faber before that.... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Francisco-Rivera-11908#!

    Come on fellas you aren't giving John Lineker enough credit.. JL has never been KO'd in his 32 pro MMA fights.. I don't think Rivera is gonna be the first to knock him out anyways..

    Rivera is tough though and brings it...

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    • GoBlue77
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      #37
      Originally posted by CaptChaos145
      I think Ross Pearson is a very good live dog here. he lost a split to Barboza 4 years ago but Barboza's game is pretty much the same as it was. Felder does not have heavy hands. If he catches you with some spinning stuff then yeah but his strength is his kicks. Neither guy will want to go to the ground.
      LMAO. good luck with that.
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      • Sanity Check
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        • 03-30-13
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        #38
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        Rivera got smoked by Uriah Faber before that.... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Francisco-Rivera-11908#!
        5'8 Rivera vs 5'2 Lineker.

        You can tell Joe Silva made that fight.
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        • GoGoGadget
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          #39
          Originally posted by JIBBBY
          Just because Fransisco Rivera looked good in knocking out the taller goofy can in Bruce "El Roy" Leroy, don't think it's gonna be the same story against the much different fighter in John Lineker.. We'll see though???.. My money is on the veteran in Johnny boy..

          Rivera got smoked by Uriah Faber before that.... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Francisco-Rivera-11908#!

          Come on fellas you aren't giving John Lineker enough credit.. JL has never been KO'd in his 32 pro MMA fights.. I don't think Rivera is gonna be the first to knock him out anyways..

          Rivera is tough though and brings it...

          Rivera did not get smoked by Faber. Rivera won the 1st round, Faber only won in the 2nd because of a blatant eye poke
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          • getlucky2win
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            #40
            i not sure jibs actually watches the fights. seems like the typical wiki capper
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            • mirinquads
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              #41
              Originally posted by JIBBBY
              Just because Fransisco Rivera looked good in knocking out the taller goofy can in Bruce "El Roy" Leroy, don't think it's gonna be the same story against the much different fighter in John Lineker.. We'll see though???.. My money is on the veteran in Johnny boy..

              Rivera got smoked by Uriah Faber before that.... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Francisco-Rivera-11908#!

              Come on fellas you aren't giving John Lineker enough credit.. JL has never been KO'd in his 32 pro MMA fights.. I don't think Rivera is gonna be the first to knock him out anyways..

              Rivera is tough though and brings it...

              No he didn't get smoked by Uriah Faber. He actually was handily beating Uriah until Faber tried to dig out his eyeball, then choked him out while he was screaming in pain, while Yamasaki was contemplating if he should get skim or regular milk.
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              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                #42
                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                Arlovski will murder mir lol...not a chance here jibby his bs run is over
                pretty sure you have said that the last 2 Mir fights..if you can't beat em, join em
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                • JIBBBY
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by getlucky2win
                  i not sure jibs actually watches the fights. seems like the typical wiki capper
                  No I've never seen any of the fights, I don't even know who these guys are? What is this sport of MMA you speak of? Come on GetLucky I've seen both of these guys fight for years now..

                  Yeah Rivera has the slight reach but won't fight long as he's a banger, Yeah Rivera is tough as nails and is tough out, etc... still Lineker is the more polished fighter IMO and he is the slight favorite going into this fight for a reason, because he's the better fighter.. Like Chad Mendes JL finds ways to win his fights despite his height disadvantage...

                  We'll see how this one goes down gents? I bet $120 to win $100 on Lineker, didn't load up because I think it will be a close fight..

                  I got Lineker winning it by decision as well as a prop play for small... The over 2.5 at -115 isn't a bad bet either IMO....

                  1607 Lineker wins by 3 round decision <input id="editx" name="M1_44" size="4"> +320
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                  • Sanity Check
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                    • 03-30-13
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                    #44
                    I wonder if Joe Silva make the Lineker vs Rivera fight because Joe Silva is short and takes personal pleasure in making david vs goliath fights where the short guy destroys his far taller adversary.

                    Or did the UFC make Lineker vs Rivera hoping Rivera would demolish Lineker and get him serious about making weight.

                    Maybe a little of both?
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                    • PaperTrail07
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                      #45
                      Mir could not have fought 2 worse people....his run is OVER...and yes I did fade him ....and will again....
                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                      pretty sure you have said that the last 2 Mir fights..if you can't beat em, join em
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                      • JAKEPEAVY21
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                        Mir could not have fought 2 worse people....his run is OVER...and yes I did fade him ....and will again....
                        in my view, both these guys could easily KO the other so I'll take the dog.
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                        • JIBBBY
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                          in my view, both these guys could easily KO the other so I'll take the dog.
                          I like your simple logic Jake.. My thoughts exactly with the AA and Mir matchup...

                          I'd like AA as a fan to win the fight but my money is on Mir.. Big fan of AA and his comeback for a while now...

                          Hit this a while back... Line is currently at +145 on 5Dimes..

                          $213.70 $352.60 Pending 9/5/15 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1101 Frank Mir +165* <small>vs</small> Andrei Arlovski
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                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                            I like your simple logic Jake.. My thoughts exactly with the AA and Mir matchup...

                            I'd like AA as a fan to win the fight but my money is on Mir.. Big fan of AA and his comeback for a while now...

                            Hit this a while back... Line is currently at +145 on 5Dimes..

                            $213.70 $352.60 Pending 9/5/15 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1101 Frank Mir +165* <small>vs</small> Andrei Arlovski
                            and that is standing..if Mir drags him to the ground, AA in a world of hurt..
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                            • mirinquads
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                              #49
                              That won't happen, however.
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                              • JIBBBY
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                                #50
                                Anybody got an angle on the Cory Anderson vs Jan Blachowicz fight? Just trying to cap this now but it's tricky.. I'm drawing blanks so far on this match up???

                                Both guys are nothing special IMO.. Nothing stands out either way... Jan Blachowicz by decision maybe?

                                <small>UFC 191 - Light Heavyweight 3 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV </small>
                                Sat 9/5 1301 Corey Anderson <input id="editx" name="M1_3" size="4"> +130 <input id="editx" name="L1_3" size="4"> o2½ -155
                                10:30PM 1302 Jan Blachowicz <input id="editx" name="M2_3" size="4"> -150 <input id="editx" name="L2_3" size="4"> u2½ +135
                                Jan Blachowicz vs Jimi Manuwa his last fight.. A treat it's up on Youtube... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jan-Blachowicz-25821




                                I think Rumble beats Jimi Manuwa by the way.. Maybe even knocks him out...
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                                • Thrilla
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                                  #51
                                  <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Sj0tg863Wuk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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                                  • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Thrilla
                                    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Sj0tg863Wuk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>
                                    Michael Sam?
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                                    • nanderson1134
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                                      • 08-07-11
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                      in my view, both these guys could easily KO the other so I'll take the dog.
                                      One is far, far more likely tho. Mir is a fine striker against people who underestimate him like Kongo or duffe. Speaking of mir looked terrible in that fight.
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                                      • beastballs86
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                        5'8 Rivera vs 5'2 Lineker.

                                        You can tell Joe Silva made that fight.
                                        terrible
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                                        • beastballs86
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          Anybody got an angle on the Cory Anderson vs Jan Blachowicz fight? Just trying to cap this now but it's tricky.. I'm drawing blanks so far on this match up???

                                          Both guys are nothing special IMO.. Nothing stands out either way... Jan Blachowicz by decision maybe?

                                          <small>UFC 191 - Light Heavyweight 3 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV </small>
                                          Sat 9/5 1301 Corey Anderson <input id="editx" name="M1_3" size="4"> +130 <input id="editx" name="L1_3" size="4"> o2½ -155
                                          10:30PM 1302 Jan Blachowicz <input id="editx" name="M2_3" size="4"> -150 <input id="editx" name="L2_3" size="4"> u2½ +135
                                          Jan Blachowicz vs Jimi Manuwa his last fight.. A treat it's up on Youtube... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jan-Blachowicz-25821




                                          I think Rumble beats Jimi Manuwa by the way.. Maybe even knocks him out...
                                          under 2.5
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                                          • UncleChael
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                                            #56
                                            Mighty Mouse Johnson by decision ... Lock it up, Lock it up, lock it up...lock it up! Dodson is going to smashed for 25 minutes. : )
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                                            • mirinquads
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                                              #57
                                              Probably more like gently tapped about the body and head and taken down for 25 minutes.
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                                              • UncleChael
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                Probably more like gently tapped about the body and head and taken down for 25 minutes.
                                                It's a beautiful thing.
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                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                  #59
                                                  Am I the only one that feels the main event should be shown in the early prelims instead? So many better fights leading up other then Might Mouse vs Dodson scrap...

                                                  Mouse and Dodson is going the distance is all I know...

                                                  1003 Dodson / Johnson goes 5 round distance <input id="editx" name="M1_71" size="4"> -170
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                                                  • GoBlue77
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                                                    #60
                                                    dodson is not smart enough to win this fight. mighty mouse easy
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                                                    • Squareguy
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                                                      #61
                                                      Very surprised to see support for Mir here. He has looked soft as hell in his last several fights and was very fortunate to pull off a couple of KO's in the first minute. Todd Duffy has terrible defense and a glass jaw (take a look at the Mike Russow finish) and Big Foot lost his TRT after taking a HUGE amount of damage in his fights with Cain/Hunt/Arlovski.

                                                      His four fights before that were all losses and I'd say his last impressive win was over Crocop in 2010. I'm a big fan of Mir and have loved the guy for a long time, but he has a very difficult time with technical strikers. Greg Jackson is going to keep Arlovski on the move early and try to take this fight out of the first round. My bet is that he succeeds and Arlovski finishes in side control with hammer fists in the second.
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                                                      • bjpenn85
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by GoBlue77
                                                        dodson is not smart enough to win this fight. mighty mouse easy

                                                        Agreed!
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                                                        • PaperTrail07
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                                                          #63
                                                          True but arlovski has more skills 100%....he has fought way better fighters and got the W....tougher as well....
                                                          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                          in my view, both these guys could easily KO the other so I'll take the dog.
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                                                          • mirinquads
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Squareguy
                                                            Very surprised to see support for Mir here. He has looked soft as hell in his last several fights and was very fortunate to pull off a couple of KO's in the first minute. Todd Duffy has terrible defense and a glass jaw (take a look at the Mike Russow finish) and Big Foot lost his TRT after taking a HUGE amount of damage in his fights with Cain/Hunt/Arlovski.

                                                            His four fights before that were all losses and I'd say his last impressive win was over Crocop in 2010. I'm a big fan of Mir and have loved the guy for a long time, but he has a very difficult time with technical strikers. Greg Jackson is going to keep Arlovski on the move early and try to take this fight out of the first round. My bet is that he succeeds and Arlovski finishes in side control with hammer fists in the second.
                                                            Yep. People still think Arlovski has a bad chin. Arlovski has quicker and better boxing, and more punching power. I don't know if people are expecting Mir to take Arlovski down, but AA has some of, if not the best TDD in the HW division.

                                                            Mir might have more confidence in his standup now, but he isn't fighting Duffee that will flail at him like he's a fifth grade girl, or TRT, chinless Bigfoot here.

                                                            Awful matchup for Mir.
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                                                            • bjpenn85
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                              Yep. People still think Arlovski has a bad chin. Arlovski has quicker and better boxing, and more punching power. I don't know if people are expecting Mir to take Arlovski down, but AA has some of, if not the best TDD in the HW division.

                                                              Mir might have more confidence in his standup now, but he isn't fighting Duffee that will flail at him like he's a fifth grade girl, or TRT, chinless Bigfoot here.

                                                              Awful matchup for Mir.
                                                              Still, its a heavycan fight! Everything can and can happen ! penetrating cans!
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                                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                                #66
                                                                AA hasn't fought and beat anyone with Mir's quickness and improved boxing.. Mir probably hits harder and sports a better chin.. He will be the more potent fighter early on.. I've never seen Mir out cold and unconscious from one standing punch or kick, have seen AA put down several times like a baby that needs a nap... Chin strength favors Mir...

                                                                Gotta take the dog Mir on odds value alone...

                                                                I'm looking at Mir wins in round round 1 prop and by KO..

                                                                Flip side - I do think if the fight extends that favors AA... I'm sure AA has better cardio then Mir... AA most likely pathway to victory is by KO so wait for that prop for best value....
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                                                                • UncleChael
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Frank Murr won't do s****. This is AA fight to win, the UFC should've made him fight Stipe. Two easy wins for theses guys. The UFC is clearly giving them their easiest respectable match up, that they both should win, and they're the better fighters.
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                                                                  • UncleChael
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    I always eat my words, somehow. But I think these guys should get it done.
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                                                                    • mirinquads
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                      AA hasn't fought and beat anyone with Mir's quickness and improved boxing.. Mir probably hits harder and sports a better chin.. He will be the more potent fighter early on.. I've never seen Mir out cold and unconscious from one standing punch or kick, have seen AA put down several times like a baby that needs a nap... Chin strength favors Mir...

                                                                      Gotta take the dog Mir on odds value alone...

                                                                      I'm looking at Mir wins in round round 1 prop and by KO..

                                                                      Flip side - I do think if the fight extends that favors AA... I'm sure AA has better cardio then Mir... AA most likely pathway to victory is by KO so wait for that prop for best value....
                                                                      No, and no.
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                                                                      • JoshKnows46
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Arlovski is the play to make, I'm letting the public bet that one down, before I place my bet.

                                                                        Johnson and Felder are both locks!!!!



                                                                        gonna make small plays on Dodson by decision and Dodson by KO.


                                                                        Beside that, the rest of the card sucks for betting, should be some good fights though.
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