Fox 16 wagers + Futures

JIBBBY · 07-21-15, 09:41 PM

Solid plays... GL...

THE_RUDESTER · 07-22-15, 12:25 AM

Nice! I'm already on Rousey and Holloway going to add Anthony Johnson and Paige Vanzant (UFC 191 September 5th) just waiting on the lines to come out. (They're taking a long time for some reason.) Lil hesitate with Dillashaw but I will definitely get some action on him. Good Luck!

Heyeverybody99 · 07-22-15, 02:23 AM

Over 1k on Caraway and Barboza

bjpenn85 · 07-22-15, 07:10 AM

Seems fine, except theres no zak cummings anywhere, which is the safest pick on the entire card.

JoshKnows46 · 07-22-15, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Seems fine, except theres no zak cummings anywhere, which is the safest pick on the entire card.

Wrong, Dillashaw is the safest pick on the card, case in point why I'm risking 8,000 on him...Cummings isn't worthy of a minimum bet at those odds, I'll have a prob on that fight though, and I'll be on gomi, and possibly one other prob. You see Cummings finishing him? At those odds, your better off investing your money in miesha Tate or Dillashaw, both far safer plays at the same odds...

JoshKnows46 · 07-22-15, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by Heyeverybody99

Over 1k on Caraway and Barboza

Horrible match-up for caraway, but I'm not playing either side, so wish you all the luck.

JIBBBY · 07-22-15, 02:51 PM

^^^TJ DIl and Cummings are both slam dunks me tinks mates.....
Really hoping and banking on both of them landing..

UncleChael · 07-22-15, 03:44 PM

Too much chalk for a woman fighter not named Rousey.

Gl on your bets, Pal!

I'm hoping for Eye though.

CaptChaos145 · 07-23-15, 01:13 AM

Sharing my picks:

STRAIGHT BET
[24301] RENAN BARAO +180
(RENAN BARAO vrs TJ DILLASHAW)
100 to win 180

STRAIGHT BET
[24305] JESSICA EYE +160
(JESSICA EYE vrs MIESHA TATE)
25 to win 40

STRAIGHT BET
[24310] EDSON BARBOZA -115
(PAUL FELDER vrs EDSON BARBOZA)
400 to win 347

STRAIGHT BET
[24322] JIM MILLER -140
(DANNY CASTILLO vrs JIM MILLER)
100 to win 71

STRAIGHT BET
[24346] ZAK CUMMINGS -260
(DOMINIQUE STEELE vrs ZAK CUMMINGS)
150 to win 57

STRAIGHT BET
[24326] BEN SAUNDERS -120
(KENNY ROBERTSON vrs BEN SAUNDERS)
200 to win 166

STRAIGHT BET
[24341] ELIZABETH PHILLPS -170
(ELIZABETH PHILLPS vrs JESSAMYN DUKE)
125 to win 73

Man I obviously want Barao to win but I also don't wanna see you lose a lotta dough. Good luck my friend.

bjpenn85 · 07-23-15, 06:48 AM

Good luck. Im not betting zak straight, huuuuge skill disparity though, zak is better standing up, grapplingwise, more experience, faced more skilled opponents etc. underdog in title fights often comes through (because the fights are closer than expected).

Werdum yes? Lawler, yes?

Historically, sometimes you need to take a step back, and look at what have happened before. I had a veeeeeery strong feeling about rory. Threw that, betted lawler and won. Im not saying you should bet barao. Im betting dillashaw myself, but zak is the through lock, while dillashaw is the "lock".

bjpenn85 · 07-23-15, 06:48 AM

true lock. jesus

JoshKnows46 · 07-23-15, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Good luck. Im not betting zak straight, huuuuge skill disparity though, zak is better standing up, grapplingwise, more experience, faced more skilled opponents etc. underdog in title fights often comes through (because the fights are closer than expected).

Werdum yes? Lawler, yes?

Historically, sometimes you need to take a step back, and look at what have happened before. I had a veeeeeery strong feeling about rory. Threw that, betted lawler and won. Im not saying you should bet barao. Im betting dillashaw myself, but zak is the through lock, while dillashaw is the "lock".

It being a championship fight has no barring if it will be easier or harder, next to 0% chance Dillashaw loses, and they have a good chance Cummings loses, I'll be on the over., which is the safer play in that fight.. I was on werdum and lawler when they won the title, though this doesn't count for squat in these fights, I'd like to point to Gsp, Ronda, anderson, chris wiedmen, Liddell, Jose aldo, jon jones.. I could go on and on, you say championship fights are usually closer historically, that is without a doubt false... But that has no barring on either of these fights. Theres probable 25 plays I'd make ahead of Cummings, the 8 best are up top, I'd be very Query of betting him at -270, or adding him to a parlay. With that being said, it's Steele or no play for me in that fight, Over is the play

JoshKnows46 · 07-23-15, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by CaptChaos145

Sharing my picks:

STRAIGHT BET
[24301] RENAN BARAO +180
(RENAN BARAO vrs TJ DILLASHAW)
100 to win 180

STRAIGHT BET
[24305] JESSICA EYE +160
(JESSICA EYE vrs MIESHA TATE)
25 to win 40

STRAIGHT BET
[24310] EDSON BARBOZA -115
(PAUL FELDER vrs EDSON BARBOZA)
400 to win 347

STRAIGHT BET
[24322] JIM MILLER -140
(DANNY CASTILLO vrs JIM MILLER)
100 to win 71

STRAIGHT BET
[24346] ZAK CUMMINGS -260
(DOMINIQUE STEELE vrs ZAK CUMMINGS)
150 to win 57

STRAIGHT BET
[24326] BEN SAUNDERS -120
(KENNY ROBERTSON vrs BEN SAUNDERS)
200 to win 166

STRAIGHT BET
[24341] ELIZABETH PHILLPS -170
(ELIZABETH PHILLPS vrs JESSAMYN DUKE)
125 to win 73

Man I obviously want Barao to win but I also don't wanna see you lose a lotta dough. Good luck my friend.

Good luck cap

bjpenn85 · 07-23-15, 09:25 AM

It does. Its usually a bigger gap between nr lets say nr 20 and nr 50 in the world, than nr 1 and nr 2. If you dont understand that...

terpkeg · 07-23-15, 09:37 AM

You parlaying to get around limits or bankroll limitations?

JoshKnows46 · 07-23-15, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

It does. Its usually a bigger gap between nr lets say nr 20 and nr 50 in the world, than nr 1 and nr 2. If you dont understand that...

Matchups greater than rankings, tj wins 9 out of 10 fights, Cummings doesn't win 7.5 out of 10 fights against Steele as the line suggests. Number 1 ranked is more skilled than number 20th ranked, and is in a perfect match-up, he'll make less mistakes, look at all the great champs in history, not saying tj is one, just saying.

bjpenn85 · 07-23-15, 11:08 AM

I agree with matchups is really important. But i do think that zak cummings on paper should win more often than dillashaw. Again, there lies a certain comfort to have observed both competitiors (barao and dillashaw) before. You kind of know what to expect, but, at the same time, the skill disparity, ON PAPER, between dillashaw even with the clash of matchup, is way less, than between cummings and steele. You seriously need to man up and agree with me on this point. Thats just a fact. I choose cummings because of the style matchup AND the skill disparity, you choose dillashaw because of style, but the skill disparity.....thats pretty f close, u like it or not.

Telling me is a dog or pass it is just....youre just mocking me, because that is so f beyond any statement i have ever seen, in my entire life. Its a favourite or go to f hell situation.

JoshKnows46 · 07-23-15, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

I agree with matchups is really important. But i do think that zak cummings on paper should win more often than dillashaw. Again, there lies a certain comfort to have observed both competitiors (barao and dillashaw) before. You kind of know what to expect, but, at the same time, the skill disparity, ON PAPER, between dillashaw even with the clash of matchup, is way less, than between cummings and steele. You seriously need to man up and agree with me on this point. Thats just a fact. I choose cummings because of the style matchup AND the skill disparity, you choose dillashaw because of style, but the skill disparity.....thats pretty f close, u like it or not.

Telling me is a dog or pass it is just....youre just mocking me, because that is so f beyond any statement i have ever seen, in my entire life. Its a favourite or go to f hell situation.

no im not mocking you at all, I'm telling you your perception of the skill between these two fighters is wrong, I see a very close fight, I love the over 2.5, and I'll have a smaller play on Steele by decision, I'm waiting to get the best value on the lines. 9 of Cummings 17 wins are by sub, Steele is more athletic and stronger then Cummings and he has never been submitted, go look at the fighters Cummings has submitted, I see a fight that will be a ugly boring fight that could go to either guy. I'm not hear to mock or get praise, I'm hear to help everyone win money, I don't care about a pissing match. I see Cummings only winning around 55% of the time against Steele, I see miesha and Dillashaw winning around 85%, I'm getting much better value with them, and I'm getting massive value in the Steele fight as the books have him losing 80% of the time at a line of -270, I'm getting miesha and Dillashaw at -200 and -220, they are bargins, Cummings is a unnecessary risk expecially if you like miesha or dillashaw.

bjpenn85 · 07-23-15, 01:22 PM

im just joking, i know youre not mocking me. Sure he is strong and hasnt been submitted. I think thats actually what he has to offer. Some speed and technique wouldnt hurt. But those advantages goes to cummings my man. Good luck sat!

JoshKnows46 · 07-23-15, 09:47 PM

Steele wins by 3 round dec +415 $100 to win $415
Steele/Cummings Over 2.5 rounds -115 $460 to win $400
Gomi wins by 3 round dec +600 $100 to win $600
Lauzon wins in round 3 +800 $50 to win $400
Gomi/lauzon over 1.5 rounds -135 $270 to win $200
Tate wins by sub +505 $50 to win $252.50

Thats all for me, good luck everyone!

krenwinkle · 07-24-15, 04:12 PM

Gonna be tailing!!! thanks J K!!! Do my research tomorrow but I think dillashaw for 1k. Don't see how the outcome changes and dillashaw dominated those rounds. Keep us updated if you put another 4k down

JoshKnows46 · 07-25-15, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by krenwinkle

Gonna be tailing!!! thanks J K!!! Do my research tomorrow but I think dillashaw for 1k. Don't see how the outcome changes and dillashaw dominated those rounds. Keep us updated if you put another 4k down

Going to be a fun night for us, gl brotha

Sanity Check · 07-25-15, 01:11 PM

I'm conflicted on the Ronda/Bethe over under.

If Ronda wanted to finish the fight she could probably armbar Bethe easily.

But Ronda has said repeatedly that she wants to make an example out of Bethe and make her suffer in this fight rather than end it quickly. Due to Bethe making comments about suicide and possibly saying negative things about Ronda's father indirectly.

mirinquads · 07-25-15, 01:36 PM

^yeah, nah. She will wreck her in the first minute or two, no doubt. When all the pressure all the lights are on, Ronda is a predator. Fastest starter in the sport, and Bethe literally has nothing in this fight. She can't even throw a proper punch, she throws sad little WMMA armpunches.

JoshKnows46 · 07-25-15, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

I'm conflicted on the Ronda/Bethe over under.

If Ronda wanted to finish the fight she could probably armbar Bethe easily.

But Ronda has said repeatedly that she wants to make an example out of Bethe and make her suffer in this fight rather than end it quickly. Due to Bethe making comments about suicide and possibly saying negative things about Ronda's father indirectly.

i know what she said, but she'd literally have to lay on the ground or run from bethe, not to finish her under 1.5 rounds, in the distance is safe. I also like Ronda by Ko which is at +350, I believe the ref stops the beating under a round, I'll have a few large prob bets on this fight.

bjpenn85 · 07-25-15, 04:26 PM

Like i said, easiest bet on the card. Or dillashaw may win over barao under 43 sec but doubt it.

JoshKnows46 · 07-25-15, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Like i said, easiest bet on the card. Or dillashaw may win over barao under 43 sec but doubt it.

Good hit, you called it, good luck with the rest of your plays.

bjpenn85 · 07-25-15, 04:35 PM

say what? No crying? No buutthurt emotinal attack? Respect. I will never attempt to point a finger at you ever again. Youre the man. Good luck to you as well!

JoshKnows46 · 07-25-15, 05:40 PM

Added Saunders by Ko at +300 for $150

Cappinpicks · 07-25-15, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

Parlay:
TJ Dillashaw -220
Ronda Rousey inside the distance -750
$4000 to win $2593.94

Parlay:
Max Holloway -165
TJ Dillashaw -220
Ronda Rousey inside the distance -750
$4000 to win $6590.27

Edson Barboza -135 $405 to win $300

Daron Cruickshank -155 $620 to win $400

Ben Saunders inside the distance +173 $200 to win $346
Ben Saunders -110 $220 to win $200

Miesha Tate -200 $600 to win $300

how much are you up for the year on the fights?

can you show your 8000$ bet ticket

JoshKnows46 · 07-25-15, 08:11 PM

Added 400 on miesha straight and another 50 on sub

JoshKnows46 · 07-25-15, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by Cappinpicks

how much are you up for the year on the fights?

can you show your 8000$ bet ticket

Im up $19,680... You gonna just have to trust me on the ticket, it's bet at diffrent books, I've posted betting tickets this size before, u can look back in my threads.

THE_RUDESTER · 07-25-15, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

Parlay:
TJ Dillashaw -220
Ronda Rousey inside the distance -750
$4000 to win $2593.94

Parlay:
Max Holloway -165
TJ Dillashaw -220
Ronda Rousey inside the distance -750
$4000 to win $6590.27

Edson Barboza -135 $405 to win $300

Daron Cruickshank -155 $620 to win $400

Ben Saunders inside the distance +173 $200 to win $346
Ben Saunders -110 $220 to win $200

Miesha Tate -200 $600 to win $300

Nice!

bjpenn85 · 07-25-15, 09:34 PM

Youre very close to win a considerable amount of money now, congrats!!