UFC 181: Hendricks vs. Lawler 2 (December 06, 2014)

[GunShard]

http://fightmetric.com/fight-details/44fc830a664ed611

Hendricks won 3 of 5 rounds

[GR33D]

honestly now...who would you rather have been?

aka...scored straight-up as a damage-infliction contest

this isn't rhythmic gymnastics

nah, its mixed martial arts, where wrestling and BBJ are a large part of it. some people forget this

[JuicedUp]

nah, lawler got the belt so...

[yisman]

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12/6/14 11:59pm Live In-Play Fighting 1001 Robbie Lawler +900*<small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Johny Hendricks

[Keyboard Warrior]

yeah it was clear Hendricks was not effective. Pushing someone against the cage doesnt out weigh getting outstruck. Per the unified rules. Robbie won 1,4,5 and it's not that hard to judge. 1 and 4 were close.

[JuicedUp]

yisman is the sharpest guy on the forum! congrats man

[GR33D]

i wonder if robbie will get the belt taken off him when he tests positive?

[beantown34]

Lol what a joke this sport is pathetic

[yisman]

yisman is the sharpest guy on the forum! congrats man

I don't even think he won 3 rounds but I bet Lawler +400 after 2 and +900 after 3

seen too many of these decisions to not bet that

If I was scoring it I would've said Hendricks 3-2

[Keyboard Warrior]

Lol what a joke this sport is pathetic

I agree. CM Punk lost to Undertaker

[Kermit]

yeah it was clear Hendricks was not effective. Pushing someone against the cage doesnt out weigh getting outstruck. Per the unified rules. Robbie won 1,4,5 and it's not that hard to judge. 1 and 4 were close.

I am trying to figure out which round was the 4th one that one of the judges gave to Robbie. I mean 2 and 3 were clearly Hendrick's

[Ron_Paul_2012]

nah, lawler got the belt so...

So.... That doesn't mean he really deserved to win the fight. So.......

[MD]

honestly now...who would you rather have been?

aka...scored straight-up as a damage-infliction contest

this isn't rhythmic gymnastics

Irrelevant.

[JuicedUp]

yea it was close but I scored rounds 1,4, and 5 for lawler so not surprised. Good hit man.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

god i hate you Hendricks, I would have a big night if you did hug a leg for half the fight.

[JuicedUp]

So.... That doesn't mean he really deserved to win the fight. So.......

but he did so....

[fitguy67]

honestly now...who would you rather have been?

aka...scored straight-up as a damage-infliction contest

this isn't rhythmic gymnastics

apart from the 3rd that he owned...the clearly better technician (JH) inflicted far less damage and suffered more of it throughout the fight

do you score rounds for Hendricks that he lost in the damage department just because he demonstrated superior skill much of the time?

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this reminds me a bit of Story getting the nod over Gunnar a short while ago...another case where the judges were evaluating damage and not technical beauty

despite looking like the overall less-skilled and slower man...he damn-near stopped the fight during two distinct brutal flurries to open and close the fight...Hendricks at no time looked as if he'd win ITD

[GR33D]

yea it was close but I scored rounds 1,4, and 5 for lawler so not surprised. Good hit man.

so you're saying you are as retarded as the judges? well done my man.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

nah, lawler got the belt so...

So... Let's see if you can answer this question chief. If Lawler clearly won that fight then why did 5dimes have Lawler @ +900 after 3 rounds. So.... I can't wait to hear your answer.

[Keyboard Warrior]

I am trying to figure out which round was the 4th one that one of the judges gave to Robbie. I mean 2 and 3 were clearly Hendrick's

Robbie didnt win 4 rounds. I think the swing round was 4.But really the 10-9 is a joke.Score this fight as a whole like Pride. It's clear who won. Lawler.

[Skel]

Pettis -170, -185 huge, Pettis ITD +190 medium, Hendricks by UD +280 medium, Samman/Gordon doesn't GTD, Duffee TKO/KO -140, Faber ITD -104

One of my best nights ever. Only loss was the Hendricks UD play. Also hit on Ferguson by submission and Ferguson live after I saw Abel fade at the end of R1.

[JuicedUp]

lawler won 1,4, and 5 guys. settle down. plenty of fights to lose money on in the future.

[Kermit]

Robbie didnt win 4 rounds. I think the swing round was 4.But really the 10-9 is a joke.Score this fight as a whole like Pride. It's clear who won. Lawler.

One judge had it 49-46, so they gave Lawler 4 rounds.

[JuicedUp]

So... Let's see if you can answer this question chief. If Lawler clearly won that fight then why did 5dimes have Lawler @ +900 after 3 rounds. So.... I can't wait to hear your answer.

5dimes was wrong I guess.

[Kermit]

If anything, I would have scored this a draw. I love Lawler and had money on him, but I have a VERY hard time giving him the decisive win.

I'll take it though.

[Kermit]

5dimes was wrong I guess.

See Undertaker vs Lesner at the last wrestlemania.

[Ron_Paul_2012]

yea it was close but I scored rounds 1,4, and 5 for lawler so not surprised. Good hit man.

No comment necessary.

[Skel]

Watching live I had Hendricks clearly winning rounds 2 and 3, with round 1 slightly for Lawler and 4 narrowly for Hendricks. Johny killed himself in round 5 by stubbornly going for takedowns that just weren't there. I still scored the fight for him, though, 48-47, and the one judge that gave Lawler 4 rounds should seek employment elsewhere.

[JuicedUp]

ron is so salty . get em next time kid

[Keyboard Warrior]

Some of you haven't read the UPDATED Unified Rules. With the UPDATED rules striking and grappling are weighted EQUAL. I honestly think some of you have no idea how to judge with the proper rules.

[Keyboard Warrior]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/7/17/3163999/association-boxing-commissions-abc-changes-unified-rules-scoring-mma-news

1.) "Effective Striking" - Heavier strikes that have a visible impact on the opponent will be given more weight than the number of strikes landed.2.) "Effective Grappling" - judged by considering the amount of successful executions of a legal takedown, reversals and submission attempts.
3.) "Effective Aggression" - moving forward scoring with a legal technique or attacking from the guard with threatening submissions.
4.) "Cage/Ring Control" - dictating the pace, place and position of the fight.

Second, the ABC has decided on a few revisions to the current MMA judging criteria:1.) Effective Defense removed as a criteria.
2.) Striking and Grappling are now considered to be given equal weight.
3.) The term "damage" will no longer be used as a descriptor when discussing the scoring of a round. It will be replaced by "effective".

[MexicanStallion]

Nice hit Yisman.

Im happy I laid off this fight. I was leaning on a bet for Hendricks.

[Skel]

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/5739/Robbie-Lawler-vs-Johny-Hendricks

Most of the media scored it for Hendricks.

[yisman]

thanks mex

as for people talking about the live odds, I seem to recall several fights this year that had one guy heavily favored live and everyone assumed they had the decision in the bag, but the judges had other ideas

[TPowell]

no action on this but NO WAY IN HELL Lawler won this fight. He won the 5th and maybe the 1st round