Bellator 129: Bradley vs. Neer (October 17, 2014)

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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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    #1
    Bellator 129: Bradley vs. Neer (October 17, 2014)


    Spike TV, 9 p.m. ET
    Paul Bradley vs. Josh Neer
    Houston Alexander vs. Virgil Zwicker
    Andre Santos vs. James Terry
    Davin Clark vs. Joe Vedepo

    Spike.com, 7 p.m. ET
    John DeVall vs. Chris Lane
    Tim Bazer vs. Eric Howser
    Michael McBride vs. opponent TBA
    Martin Brown vs. Bryan Corley
    Jozette Cotton vs. Holly Lawson
    Brian Green vs. Anthony Smith
    Marcos Marquez vs. Victor Moreno
    Mike Estus vs. Ryan Shell

  • JIBBBY
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    #2
    If ya wanna get a jump on things this is a good short read on the 4 fights.. Vids too...



    This is who Houston Alexander is facing.. This guy took the fight on short notice..



    This is about the only other decent read out so far on this main card.. Thought to put it up...
    Bellator 129 preview: Paul Bradley and Josh Neer will square off at welterweight at the Mid-America Center on Friday, Oct. 17th live for an action packed Bellator card on Spike! The co-main event features Houston Alexander vs. Virgil Zwicker.


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    • Skel
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      #3
      One of the worst Bellator cards ever.
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      • Napes21
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        #4
        Originally posted by Skel
        One of the worst Bellator cards ever.
        First card in as long as I can remember since I started betting where I won't have a single play capped for an event - I may just do some cute shit like bet on Neer Terry and Vedepo since their names all begin with J (maybe I'll throw Zwicker in too since he's replacing a J)
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        • JIBBBY
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          #5
          Originally posted by Skel
          One of the worst Bellator cards ever.
          Lol... Could be true Skel.... Hey but you can still win money even with the cans if you do your homework.... As a fan - The last 2 fights on the card might be fun.

          As a gambler - I'd say a solid bet right now is the under 1 1/2 rounds with Houston Alexander/Virgil Zwicker bet. Even at - 160.... I'd be surprised to see this one get out of the 1st... Reasoning - 42 year old Houston Alexander with the glass jaw that hits like a truck is fighting a guy coming in on REALLY short notice that likes to bang too.
          Last edited by JIBBBY; 10-16-14, 04:09 AM.
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          • Jim_Gunn
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            #6
            Houston has gone the distance with some really hard hitters like Jan Blachowicz so that gives me pause for thought about just automatically betting the under 1½ in that 215 pound catchweight fight. So far I only bet Bradley via wrestling over Neer in the main event just for a little action. Wish I waited now that he's up to +140 though.
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            • JIBBBY
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              #7
              Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
              Houston has gone the distance with some really hard hitters like Jan Blachowicz so that gives me pause for thought about just automatically betting the under 1½ in that 215 pound catchweight fight. So far I only bet Bradley via wrestling over Neer in the main event just for a little action. Wish I waited now that he's up to +140 though.
              Really Jimmy on the Houston comment? 42 years old now and how long ago was that? http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Houston-Alexander-2352

              Did you forget that he's fighting a guy that is probably out of shape and also likes to bang and finish in a hurry?? Both guys are gonna swing for the fences early on. Both will probably gas mid round and one will get Ko'd or stopped on the ground before the bell rings..

              I don't think Houston Alexander pulls off the lay and pray for 2 rounds.... At -160 I think it's worth the bet that the lay and pray won't happen.

              I'm not screaming out max bet on this one so tail at own risk!!!!! I just said it's a solid bet....
              Last edited by JIBBBY; 10-16-14, 12:14 AM.
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              • JIBBBY
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                #8
                Also like Santos and that line is probably climbing as I type....

                Bradley does have the wrestling JIM but Neer is a well rounded veteran that has been winning of late.. Tough call....
                Last edited by JIBBBY; 10-16-14, 03:23 AM.
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                • Jim_Gunn
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                  Really Jimmy on the Houston comment? 42 years old now and how long ago was that? http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Houston-Alexander-2352

                  Did you forget that he's fighting a guy that is probably out of shape and also likes to bang and finish in a hurry?? Both guys are gonna swing for the fences early on. Both will probably gas mid round and one will get Ko'd or stopped on the ground before the bell rings..

                  I don't think Houston Alexander pulls off the lay and pray for 2 rounds.... At -160 I think it's worth the bet that the lay and pray won't happen.

                  I'm not screaming out max bet on this one so tail at own risk!!!!! I just said it's a solid bet....
                  The Blachowicz fight was only two years ago and three out of Houston's four fights since then went over 1½. Sure they could both gas but sometimes both of these guys just don't manage to finish their opponent either. I'm thinking about just betting Houston straight up at evens. Five days notice isn't a lot of time for Zwicker to prepare. I did bet Santos straight up. Lousy price at -160 but those debuting Brazilians in Bellator usually do well and I like the winning streak and all the stoppages on his record.
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                  • JIBBBY
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                    The Blachowicz fight was only two years ago and three out of Houston's four fights since then went over 1½. Sure they could both gas but sometimes both of these guys just don't manage to finish their opponent either. I'm thinking about just betting Houston straight up at evens. Five days notice isn't a lot of time for Zwicker to prepare.
                    Did we forget about the other fighter Jimster?

                    Short notice and......http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Virgil-Zwicker-9086
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                    • Vaughany
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                      #11
                      Then Dentist gonna fuuuck Bradley up brahs
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                      • Jim_Gunn
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                        Did we forget about the other fighter Jimster?

                        Short notice and......http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Virgil-Zwicker-9086
                        Zwicker is the fighter coming in on short notice, right?
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                        • marzwoody
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                          #13
                          Another stacked card from bellator.
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                          • Sacrelicious
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                            #14
                            Who the f-ck is Josh Neer?
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                            • JIBBBY
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                              Zwicker is the fighter coming in on short notice, right?
                              Yep...



                              copy and paste -

                              With his priorities aligned, Zwicker is confident Bellator will get its money’s worth in booking him on short notice. After a submission loss in his previous outing, he’s pretty sure there will be a must-watch fist fight on Friday.

                              “What should the fans expect? Violence. Savagery. And an exciting fight,” he said, “I’m always going for the finish – I’ll never lay and pray – and I’m out there to hurt my opponent and finish him. They won’t ever see me back down or give up. Win, lose or draw, whether I get knocked out or not, I don’t care – I’m going to bring it 120 percent right to his face. Most importantly, they can expect to see the warrior mentality that I was raised with.”

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                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 10-16-14, 01:29 PM.
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                              • mirinquads
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                                #16
                                Well that's in, All in Mike Zwick


                                Thanks jibbbbbeeeh
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                                • Vaughany
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                                  #17
                                  Virgil via Zwickertine
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                                  • JIBBBY
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                                    #18
                                    2 team parlay placed...

                                    Andre Santos straight -160, and 1 1/2 Under Houston Alexander/Zwicker -160 ... $100 to win $164

                                    Also placed a straight $160 to win $100 on the U - Alexander/Zwicker..

                                    Probably gonna play Josh Neer too.. Not placed yet.. Still on the fence a bit... May also play Davin Clark for small.. Not so confident with that fight outcome either though..


                                    $10 parlay for the card....

                                    267825453-1 10/15/14 10:41pm $10.00 $102.59 Pending 4 Team Parlay
                                    Pending 10/17/14 10:30pm Bellator Fighting 4002 Josh Neer -150* <small>vs</small> Paul Bradley
                                    Pending 10/17/14 10:00pm Bellator Fighting 4102 Virgil Zwicker -110* <small>vs</small> Houston Alexander
                                    Pending 10/17/14 9:30pm Bellator Fighting 4202 Andre Santos -130* <small>vs</small> James Terry
                                    Pending 10/17/14 9:00pm Bellator Fighting 4301 Davin Clark +100* <small>vs</small> Joe Vedepo
                                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 10-16-14, 05:25 PM.
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                                    • Jim_Gunn
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                                      #19
                                      I ended up betting Alexander/Zwicker under 1½ after all, at -145.
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                                      • JIBBBY
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                                        I ended up betting Alexander/Zwicker under 1½ after all, at -145.
                                        I hope it hits too.. Just going with what seems what will happen and this one suggests it will end in a hurry..
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                                        • illmatick
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                                          #21
                                          wish I had that one Paul Bradley who came in at +300 and busted everyone's Mike Pierce parlays until those judges in Anaheim, California


                                          3 years later and I don't know where he's at in this world anymore
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                                          • Crassus
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                                            #22
                                            Have completely degenerate plays on Davin Clark, Santos, Alexander ML, Alexander vs Zwicker under, Alexander ITD and the dentist straight up.
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                                            • JIBBBY
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                                              #23
                                              Zwicker weighed in 10 pounds heavier then Houston... Couldn't find a replay weigh in vid on line to link up..

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                                              • Crassus
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                Zwicker weighed in 10 pounds heavier then Houston... Couldn't find a replay weigh in vid on line to link up..

                                                http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Bel...nt-Clash-75765
                                                Makes sense, Alexander was planning on 205, the 215lb catch-weight was all for Zwicker.
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                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                  #25
                                                  Going with Josh Neer, he still fights and trains with the Gracie Fight Team with Jake Shields, Nick and Nate Diaz so the Dentist will have the ground skills to deal with Paul Bradley and his standup has always been decent..

                                                  I think the smart money has to be on Josh Neer, he is on a 3 fight win streak but against bums... Still, those wins are confidence builders and got him into Bellator.. I don't think he's gonna blow this opportunity anyways.. Paul Bradley has not been that impressive of late either..

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                                                  • reigle9
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                                                    #26
                                                    So, you kind of suck at this right? Not like Neer is part of the team just cause he's trained with them before.
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                                                    • marzwoody
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by reigle9
                                                      So, you kind of suck at this right? Not like Neer is part of the team just cause he's trained with them before.
                                                      Neer will win and it will be just another mark on your tally of losing bets.
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by marzwoody
                                                        Neer will win and it will be just another mark on your tally of losing bets.
                                                        Thanks for having my back Marz...

                                                        Never heard of this guy reighle9 so seeing a post like that from a nobody is kinda like seeing a dump floating in my toilet right before I flush it....

                                                        I do hope Neer wins though.. We see... Thru a Benjamin down on the boy...
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                                                        • FightFightFight
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Crassus
                                                          Makes sense, Alexander was planning on 205, the 215lb catch-weight was all for Zwicker.
                                                          Alexander was planning on a hw fight. Is just 206 lbs. Doesnt cut.
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                                                          • Jim_Gunn
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                                                            #30
                                                            Bellator 129 Risk $253.20

                                                            Paul Bradley (+110) vs Josh Neer $40.00 for $44.00
                                                            Houston Alexander (+115) vs Virgil Zwicker $40.00 for $46.00
                                                            Alexander/Zwicker Under 1½ (-145) $58.00 for $40.00
                                                            Alexander by 3 round decision (+520) $10.00 for $52.00
                                                            Andre Santos (-160) vs James Terry $64.00 for $40.00
                                                            Santos/Terry Over 2½ (-103) $41.20 for $40.00
                                                            Last edited by Jim_Gunn; 10-17-14, 06:16 PM.
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                                                            • JIBBBY
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                                                              Bellator 129 Risk $253.20

                                                              Paul Bradley (+110) vs Josh Neer $40.00 for $44.00
                                                              Houston Alexander (+115) vs Virgil Zwicker $40.00 for $46.00
                                                              Alexander/Zwicker Under 1½ (-145) $58.00 for $40.00
                                                              Alexander by 3 round decision (+520) $10.00 for $52.00
                                                              Andre Santos (-160) vs James Terry $64.00 for $40.00
                                                              Santos/Terry Over 2½ (-103) $41.20 for $40.00
                                                              Insurance for 10 bucks.. I see what you did.. 1 1/2 rounds won't be covered though..
                                                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 10-17-14, 06:32 PM.
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                                                              • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                #32
                                                                Exactly. If it goes to a decision it's going to be Alexander winning that decision, in my opinion.
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                                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                                                                  Exactly. If it goes to a decision it's going to be Alexander winning that decision, in my opinion.
                                                                  I read ya Jim - My thoughts, if it does go the distance it will only be because Alexander is running and on his horse the entire fight while staying out striking distance and or wrestling take down range.. Can the 42 year old keep that up for 3 rounds and does he want to lose just to survive???? Being the lighter weight and faster fighter that is possible though but it's gonna be hard for him to win a fight going backwards for 3 rounds.. Houston Alexander isn't a slick boxer. Kind of a slugger whom gets in and out.. ..

                                                                  I don't think Houston Alexander wins this fight if he's running the entire time in a decision is what I was trying to say.. Hey but my thinking is this fight doesn't get out of the 1st round and that is what we are both hoping for!!!!...

                                                                  GL Jim....
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    4104 - Alexander/Zwicker fight does not go the distance -300... Very SOLID bet I believe..

                                                                    6 out of 7 last fights for Zwicker have not made it out of the 1st round.. Zwicker comes to finish or get finished... He's the bigger man going in tonight as well.. 10 years younger too..

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                                                                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 10-17-14, 07:28 PM.
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                                                                    • ItsMeMrMattE
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      santos + vedepo. parlay both for the win. anyone disagree?
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